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Thread: Aurilian Plant Care
rahbert
Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:12 am
#287
rahbert wrote:
Upgraded to a medium today and growth rate is wilting.... gah! I've pretty much had it like water: below normal and nutrients: low the entire time.
After the upgrade, health and GR dropped a level so I increased water back to below normal and nutrients back to low.
There wasn't a change for 12 hours so I further increased water to normal and nutrients to below normal.
I hope this works.... I'd be lonely without my plant
Just an update:
I was still having wilting issues at
Water: normal
Nutrients: below normal
I've set nutrients to normal and it's gone from:
Health: Vibrant and colorful
Growth rate: Wilting
to
Health: Full of Life
Growth Rate: Slow
Better than nothing! I suspect I have to put more water or nutrients in for it to do better. After a cycle, it dropped back to wilting and the water/nutrients dropped pretty low.......... or maybe it needs less stuff, but that didn't work before... gahhhhh, talk to me plant!
Mschif
Sun Sep 19, 2004 12:30 pm
#289
Finally gotsome fruit! yay! 
Health: Perfect Condition
Growth Rate: Slow
Water: Wet
Nutrients: Very High
Total opposite settings than most, lol 
I just stopped reading what others were doing and payed more attention to what I was adding to the plant did to it, If you notice that a few minutes after you add/remove water/nutrients from your plant, it will either gain a health and/or growth level or more, or lose a health and/or growth level or more,or stay the same,what I starting doing was adding +1 to each, wait a few minutes and see what it did, If it dropped I would add more and wait till the next growth check, if it went up I would leave it like that till next growth check, finally i was getting Perfect Condition/Below Normal level, but each growth check it would drop to Full of Life/Wilting, But i was mantaining it back and forth from Perfect Condition to Full of Life, so i added one more shot of water and nutrients after the next growth check and it finally stayed at Perfect Condition/Slow, and produced fruit, yay!
All I would say is that this plant system is more of trail and error and LUCK, Lots of LUCK, also if you notice, when your getting your plant going in the right direction and it stays healthy for a day or more, all of a sudden what you were doing to the plant doesn't seem to work anymore. The setting that were working stop, which leads me to believe that the settings it needs not only change after each stage, but they change all the time, if you notice some people have gotten a Large plant from small in as little as 4 days, and some people still have a small plant after2 weeks, SO, if your plant is not changing but you are flipping back and forth from one level to another, Like say Full of Life and Perfect Condition, then you need to change what your doing, try adding one more shot of water and nutrients than you have been, if that doesnt help, then try removing one more level than you have been using, when you start to get positive improvement, by either adding or removing water/nutrients, then after the next growth check (when your plant eats its nutrients and drinks its water) put it back to the settings you hadthat gave you thepositive growth, then add +1 if you were adding to get the change or remove +1 if you were removing to get the change.
After 2 weeks i still have a "Small Aurilian Plant", this one must need split settings like Positive water and Negative nurtients or vice versa, because i cannot for the life of me get it to grow, but my 2nd plant I got to grow to Large in 3 days and grow fruit in 5 days, mostly because the settings on this one seem to be both positive water and nutrients atm, same as you notice most the others with large plants producing fruit are both negative, they are much easier to grow because moving both levels up or down is less combinations than moving one up amd one down, plus if you hit the right setting for one but the the other is wrong its harder to figure out which is right, like do you add one more water or remove one more nutrient or remove one more water and add one more nutrients, too much guessing to ever get anywhere and your plant stays at its same level, dropping health and very slow growth rate, your just keeping it alive but not getting anywhere, thats my 2nd plant, up and down, up and down, cant make this thing happy to save my life...
Mschif
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BlueTygur
Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:04 pm
#290
Has anyone figured out the exact requirements for the plant to change size, like going from "small aurelian plant" to whatever the next size is (medium?).
My small plant is in "perfect" health, growth is "slow". If I just wait a few days will it evolve?
If anyone has had a small plant in the "perfect/slow" status evolve to the next level, I would appreciate hearing about it.
Tekcasualty
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:49 pm
#291
The growth=rate till next level. Because yours is on slow its going to take a WHILE. I suggest altering the water/neutrients untill you get a faster growth.
jasski_vaarl
Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:35 pm
#292
Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but maybe using Dathomirian resources will help it along over the other planet ones??
Ilox
Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:51 pm
#293
I used both Talusian water and beans and mines perfect condition, fast growth
cbl3915
Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:59 pm
#294
HELP !
What is the consensus on the update time for changing nutrients ? I've seen everthing form 1 day to a few minutes.
My 3rd stage plant is losing health and i can't seem to get above wilting, i've been changing water and nutrients every hour and not seeing any changes.
My plan is to start with water at normal and go thru each nutrient level then go to below normal water and each nutrient level and so on, till i hit something better than wilting.
Thanks so much for any help you can give.
MalLorin
Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:40 am
#295
cbl3915, I don't think there's a consensus on update time. Some people are saying that you can get a change right away, or 5 minutes after changing. The only time that has been the case for me is when my plant goes to a negative state right away. I have seen my plant change from wilting to a positive growth state within 3 hours, generally, and I think that goes along with what some others have said. Maybe you'll get lucky and see changes immediately or within an hour; otherwise, your strategy is going to take a pretty long time.
My small plant is still frustrating me, and I think there may be something that we're all missing, though it isn't important to most of you for some reason, because it seems like most everyone here is actually getting decent results with their plants. To recap, my plant did not show any improvement from excellent/very slow, until I changed water from high OQ/DR to OQ700something/DR70something. Then it went to vibrant and colorful/very slow. It has stayed there for several days now at what I think is my optimum water/nutrient level. I have been trying to think of possible things I could be missing, maybe some of you can help me out here.
1. Resource stats: is it possible that I not only need very low DR water, but I also need very high OQ water? The nutrients I'm using are OQ990 and fairly low DR. Haven't some people achieved perfect health with resources that have so-so stats?
2. Resource planet of origin: someone else just upthread mentioned using Dathomirian nutrients. Maybe it's not a blanket requirement - perhaps each plant is random and needs nutrients from a certain random planet and water from a certain random planet. If I only had resources with identical stats from every planet, I could test this, haha...
3. Optimumwater/nutrients level:I have been operating on the assumption that there is one optimum level for water/nutrients, and the farther away you go from this level, the worse the plant gets. So I have been keeping my water/nutrients at wet/above normal, because when I take water down to dry or up to wet+my plant goesto wilting, and when I take nutrients down to below normal or up to above normal+ my plant goes to wilting. But could it be that beyond wet+/above normal+, like up at drenched/rich, the plant would return to a good health/growth and actually be better off than it is now? I'll test this later today. On the other hand, optimum level could be a function of the relationship between water and nutrient level; in other words, for my plant, when water is at wet, optimum nutrient level is above normal, but if I change the water to dry, perhaps optimum nutrient level changes from above normal to something else, so I'm seeing wilting because I'm not changing nutrient level to rich (or whatever).
4. Time online: I haven't spent any time at all online lately. Actually I've only signed on to check the plant and apply water/nutrients as needed. Is it possible that you need to spend time online in order for your plant to improve? Doesn't seem likely, because it sure is going through water and nutrients even though I'm not online...but you other people could probably shed some light on that. Do those of you with plants that are already bearing fruit spend a lot of time on?
5. Growth rate affects health: I'm not sure what the current general opinion on the relationship between health and growth rateis. Are growth rate and health independent of each other, each affecting the amount of time before the plant grows to its next level? Or is it possible that very slow growth, which is the highest growth rate my plant has been at, is affecting the rate at which my health level is improving? Maybe that's why it took so long to go from excellent to vibrant and colorful, and that's why it has stayed at vibrant and colorful for days now. I could test this by just keeping on doing what I'm doing. Or does health affect growth rate? Everyone who has had a growth phase change had plants in perfect health, right?
6. Every plant is random: maybe my plant is just a sickly thing and it was randomly determined that even at its optimum water/nutrient settings, the maximum growth rate it would be at is very slow. Hopefully if it ever grows to the medium stage the randomly determined settings for it will be much better...
Anyone else have any ideas? Please add to/shoot down any of the above points, or suggest other possibilities.
OuijaChilastra
Mon Sep 20, 2004 4:50 am
#296
From what I can see from people's logs, Health appears to be inversly related to moisture and growth rate appears directly related to nuetrient levels.
There is some info here that shows low nuetrients with high growth rates, but you can see that after a few updates the growth rate drops dramatically until more nuetrients are added.
It is also apparent that the requirements of the plant changes in different stages of growth. As a small plant, normal levels of feed seem to be too much for it, which makes sense.
Mine is 1day old, I haven't checked it yet (I'm at work). I'll see how it is at normal/normal when I return and log on.
Angof
Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:36 am
#297
The collective knowledge of my small aurilian plant so far. It doesnt like meat..... It doesnt like it too dry..it doesnt like it too wet....it doesnt like too few nutrients...it doesnt like too many nutrients.
Its a stupid *expletive* plant that will spend its entire life at Health - Excellent Growth - Very Slow....Its happiest at Water - Below Normal (2) and Nutrients Normal (1).
No matter what i do its going to stay exactly at this level as no matter what i do to it it goes off in a huff and it wilts on me. So for all those of you in my situation don't feel alone, some people have been lucky and have plants that will go to Perfect Condition (a level im convinced is necessary to grow to the next stage) and will evolve in days...my stupid plant i have had for 2 weeks and it hasnt changed 1 jot so it will stay in my stupid living room and stupidly not grow forever.
Thank you for listening to my rant. Please feel free to give it a star because my plant sucks. 
BlueTygur
Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:49 am
#298
"Growth update time" is the key piece of info we need, and nobody has figured that out yet. All I can say is that, with my plant, I have had situations where I change the WL/NL and have had to wait >6 HOURS for the growth rate to go from "wilting" to "slow growth".
So here is the problem: say a plant is "wilting". You make a WL/NL change. You wait 3 hours, and the plant is still "wilting". Now, it may be that if you had just3 morehours it would have moved into positive growth. But, not knowing this, you decide that the change you made is no good, so you make another change. If that second change is bad, then you will NEVER see the plant get positive growth even though your original change was good! That is one reason we are seeing some strangeproblems people are having ... they are not waiting long enough between changes.
At this point, I am assuming that every plant is different. I also assume that the optimal WL/NL level for each plant is RANDOMLY determined (easiest to program and make each plant different). If these assumptions are true, then horticultural logic does not help. Individual plant settings do not help. The only thing that really helps is to know what the update time is. This will allowus to most efficiently change WL/NL setting around untilwe get apositive growth rate. This really just seems to be a matter of luck, although I am sure that some change methods/systems are better than others at stumbling onto the better settings.
One final note. ANY positive growth rate, even "slow growth" will eventually take the plant to "perfect health". Mine spent several days "wilting" and then several days at "very slow" and finally at "slow". It took about a week to get to "perfect health". It still has not evolved to the next stage, though.
Bearber
Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:58 am
#299
Tyger.... I hate to add another element to your problem.... but in my observations.... and I have one of the SLOW plants.....
When I used one set of resources..... relatively high DR.... I would get no change for 36+ hours.... switched to resources with near same OQ... much lower DR..... updates between 4 and 6 hours... I watched it once and got 2 changes in 4.5 hours.... both positive changes...... The only time I have seen a large set of changes is when I stayed online.... right now I do just log in and check it and log out...... There may be a connection between online time and growth.... Some of these folks with great growth are talking about the status of their plants ever 3 hours..... With the exception of one day I have never been able to do this.....
In other words........ Your update time may be based on your resources and your online time.... or one of the two......
My plant is at Perfect Health and Below Normal growth and has been for ?3? days now... I'd have to check my posts..... but changing resources was the only way I got past... Excellent/ Very Slow.......
I wonder how well this little plant would brun......