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Thread: The Stealth Nerfing of POI's Not a Bug but a Marketing Move for JTL.
cheifno
Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:59 pm
#14
Yeah people should have more faith in the devs... its not like they've ever screwed us before... **rolls eyes**
tempestholt75
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:48 am
#15
CreatureHypnotizer wrote:A CSR told me that the bug was not intended and that they were working on it
I sent a message to Tiggs a couple of days ago asking her to comment in one of the POI issue threads. She read it, but I have not seen a dev comment as of yet.
Since you stated that a CSR spoke with you regarding this issue, can you point me to the forum message, provide the public a screen capture of the chat, or post an image on imagedump.com with the CSR's comments?
Thank you in advance.
VengfulOne
Thu Sep 16, 2004 11:53 am
#16
It smells like a nerf to me. I asked a CSR about it and they gave me the run around. They told me to check the knowledge database lol.
Theos_Robos
Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:54 pm
#17
Log into TC...and talk to a QA. This is indeed a bug. CSR's give you the run around because they are exactly that. Customer Service. They even admit that they do not work behind the scenes...whereas QA does. Again...this IS a bug.
MasterKadanne
Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:11 pm
#18
Pvt wrote:I have been playing this game for over a year now and I used to love it immensly. I just like being insid the StarWars Universe even though this game more resembles the Movie SpaceBalls then it does StarWars.I keep posting stuff like this and my threads always get deleted without warning or reason.The nerfing of POI's to once-per-day spawns is not a bug but is a marketing ploy to get you to buy Jump To Lightspeed.Sony is not a dedicated Game Developer. Game Develpoers such as: Sierra, Valve, ID, EA, and Blizzard simply want to make great video games and earn profits because they make great video games. Sony makes video games just to make profits and simply make a game good enough to sell that will make them money. They want to sell products at high prices to consumers at the lowest cost possible. This clearly shows with this game.It's funny how only certain POI's got nerfed. I'm sure people behind the scenes had to fight to keep ALL POI's from getting nerfed to once per day spawns.This is really unfair and it doesn't make sense. Sony really needs to cut som pink slips because their dumbass marketing team and suits are losing them a lot of money. This game could be the greatest ever but with decisions such as these being made every day it will quickly go downhill.They want this game to fail shortly after JTL and then they will push us on EQ2 very hard. Such as offer us all free 1 month trial accounts for being a "valued" Sony Subscriber.The nerfing of POI's was done on purpose to get us bored with the ground game to push us to buy Jump to Lightspeed.I really think that Sony has got some loose screws if they think that by taking things away from the game it will make them more money. It just doesn't make any sense no matter what their industy analysis reports say.
Wow... some people think to much.... lol...
It's a bug... CSR in chat room told me it was... and QA on TC did too... it's a bug people... relax... stop smoking so much... it's making you paranoid....
IcarusKaleitch
Thu Sep 16, 2004 3:39 pm
#19
ok though I don't like to get involved with the forums. there's some hyporcrisy for you. anyway the point I'm typing... is this sony are agressive this is a business strategy that they show in every other thing they have ever made. they make high quality goods at high prices. if you look at every subsidery of sony they all use the same tactic. when things get tough give more stuff hence get more customers. For them to take away pois would be like kicking themselves in the head. There would be no long term or short term gain from making people unhappy.... BECAUSE if you want MOREpeople to play a game.YOU ADD THINGS. if you have a expansion in the works you give more to the community thus making more people subscribe say by free trials... then ifthey like what they see then those peoplebuy the addon voila. anyone with a bit of business sense knows this: agreesive pushingthe quality of your productto higher levelswhich inturn MAKES THEM MORE MONEY. ok I'm done. and the argument that actually started this thread is what is calleda circular argument. i.e. no use to anyone....well kinda like most of the other arguments on this forum
well good night
here endth the lesson
go for recess
DedalusX
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:00 pm
#20
Pvt wrote:
I have been playing this game for over a year now and I used to love it immensly. I just like being insid the StarWars Universe even though this game more resembles the Movie SpaceBalls then it does StarWars.
I keep posting stuff like this and my threads always get deleted without warning or reason.
The nerfing of POI's to once-per-day spawns is not a bug but is a marketing ploy to get you to buy Jump To Lightspeed.
Sony is not a dedicated Game Developer. Game Develpoers such as: Sierra, Valve, ID, EA, and Blizzard simply want to make great video games and earn profits because they make great video games. Sony makes video games just to make profits and simply make a game good enough to sell that will make them money. They want to sell products at high prices to consumers at the lowest cost possible. This clearly shows with this game.
It's funny how only certain POI's got nerfed. I'm sure people behind the scenes had to fight to keep ALL POI's from getting nerfed to once per day spawns.
This is really unfair and it doesn't make sense. Sony really needs to cut som pink slips because their dumbass marketing team and suits are losing them a lot of money. This game could be the greatest ever but with decisions such as these being made every day it will quickly go downhill.
They want this game to fail shortly after JTL and then they will push us on EQ2 very hard. Such as offer us all free 1 month trial accounts for being a "valued" Sony Subscriber.
The nerfing of POI's was done on purpose to get us bored with the ground game to push us to buy Jump to Lightspeed.
I really think that Sony has got some loose screws if they think that by taking things away from the game it will make them more money. It just doesn't make any sense no matter what their industy analysis reports say.
Please provide us with some evidence of this heinous conspiracy. You might be able to pick up more incriminating signals from the toaster if you add another layer of aluminium foil to the windows.
Message Edited by DedalusX on 09-16-2004 06:01 PM
worpete
Thu Sep 16, 2004 7:18 pm
#21
Pvt wrote:
I have been playing this game for over a year now and I used to love it immensly. I just like being insid the StarWars Universe even though this game more resembles the Movie SpaceBalls then it does StarWars.
I keep posting stuff like this and my threads always get deleted without warning or reason.
The nerfing of POI's to once-per-day spawns is not a bug but is a marketing ploy to get you to buy Jump To Lightspeed.
Sony is not a dedicated Game Developer. Game Develpoers such as: Sierra, Valve, ID, EA, and Blizzard simply want to make great video games and earn profits because they make great video games. Sony makes video games just to make profits and simply make a game good enough to sell that will make them money. They want to sell products at high prices to consumers at the lowest cost possible. This clearly shows with this game.
It's funny how only certain POI's got nerfed. I'm sure people behind the scenes had to fight to keep ALL POI's from getting nerfed to once per day spawns.
This is really unfair and it doesn't make sense. Sony really needs to cut som pink slips because their dumbass marketing team and suits are losing them a lot of money. This game could be the greatest ever but with decisions such as these being made every day it will quickly go downhill.
They want this game to fail shortly after JTL and then they will push us on EQ2 very hard. Such as offer us all free 1 month trial accounts for being a "valued" Sony Subscriber.
The nerfing of POI's was done on purpose to get us bored with the ground game to push us to buy Jump to Lightspeed.
I really think that Sony has got some loose screws if they think that by taking things away from the game it will make them more money. It just doesn't make any sense no matter what their industy analysis reports say.
first of all EA isnt a game developer, they are a publisher. second of all, you negated all points you could have made in your comment/ramblings/whathaveyou by stating that EA is good.
JimtaviusII
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:31 am
#22
CreatureHypnotizer wrote:
A CSR told me that the bug was not intended and that they were working on it
I had the same problem as the others who posted after your comment. I also contacted a CSR and asked on the subject.
I said, "Is there a bug in the spawning system at some dungeons?"
He said, "I can't comment on this subject"
?!?!?! I said, "You can't give me a simple yes or no if there is a bug in the game?"
He said, "Post on the forums and see if any players can help you."
I won't say what was said after that just that I'm happy my account is still active.
GummiShooter
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:33 am
#23
Alila wrote:
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Wow, this actually works! And English isn't even my native language
Err, sorry 'bout that.... back on-topic...
GotEgg
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:56 am
#24
Alila wrote:
omg! look out! there's black choppers looking in your windows!
LOL - i couldn't agree more.
Listen up people - Everything that happens in this game is NOT a conspiracy against the players, nor is this a 'stealth nerf' - This is a BUG, plain and simple.
Ever think the reason they didn't announce this 'nerf' is because they didn't do it on purpose - Even if the marketting team had told them they had to do it (which is an absurd statement) it would have been announced when it happened.
Put down Catcher in the Rye, and go about your business.
Tremk_Stryder
Fri Sep 17, 2004 12:59 am
#25
Things ive noticed since i signed up 3 months ago:
1. the game gets repetitive more and more and more
2. CSRs cant help or do anything in game...so W7F are they there for?
3. Devs or forum mods do not talk to ppl on the board
4. any actual buggs that are huge dont get fixed immediately
5. things people like get nerfed
This IS an inside thing..it cannot be otherwise explained...we have 2 possibilities here...either:
1. this is just a phase and then a stage where we get WOWed about the combat fix and what not
2. this is a 2nd hand game for sony and its gonna get dumped as soon as a lot of ppl leave it
I for one am just gonna enjoy it as much as possible and hope for the best...if worse comes to worse...ill just go back to my "bad" internet ways and stop spending my money.
Vikassi
Fri Sep 17, 2004 7:59 am
#26
Dudes......Are you guys ok with the constant bugs that plague this game due to their "publishes"? Look at all the bugs that were introduced since pub 10......Look how long it took them to fix some of those bugs.....This is getting ridiculous......am I right or wrong?