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Thread: Hearing 90 to 1 Sq. L. Conversion, Can any1 confirm the Weap XP conversion?
DRWolfe
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:02 am
#14
kokeaux wrote:
Rikilii wrote:No one ever said you have to do it in 3 weeks, but even if you want to, you can easily do it in a few hours per night.If you can grind 500K of weapons experience and 50K of combat xp per hour (an easy task for a master-anything), that's less than 40 hours of gameplay per branch, or about one buff set per night.A lot of master professions, like TKM or RM, can probably pull closer to 800-900K xp per hour if they try hard, meaning your daily grind will only be a little more than an hour, or you could do a full buff set every other day.Can you tell me where and what mobs you can Solo at 500k xp per hour. The giant Baz missions are the best you can get solo and its about 30k per nest. I can do about 4 or 5 nest an hour (master pike) for 120 to 150k per hour.
Huurton Stalker missions give a bunch. 5k each, 15 HS per lair, so about 65k each lair, plus a little for the lair itself. If you get 5 in an hour, that'll be 325k pre hour, so doubling your old rate.
I'll be trying that myself, so beware Huurton Stalkers, your time has come!
"Begun, the Grind War has."
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:10 am
#15
It's not 115million weapons exp. It's 229.5 million weapons exp. The 115 million is after Combat exp has been calculated.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:20 am
#16
kokeaux wrote:
Rikilii wrote:
No one ever said you have to do it in 3 weeks, but even if you want to, you can easily do it in a few hours per night.
If you can grind 500K of weapons experience and 50K of combat xp per hour (an easy task for a master-anything), that's less than 40 hours of gameplay per branch, or about one buff set per night.
A lot of master professions, like TKM or RM, can probably pull closer to 800-900K xp per hour if they try hard, meaning your daily grind will only be a little more than an hour, or you could do a full buff set every other day.
Can you tell me where and what mobs you can Solo at 500k xp per hour. The giant Baz missions are the best you can get solo and its about 30k per nest. I can do about 4 or 5 nest an hour (master pike) for 120 to 150k per hour.
Don't bother with missions.....or at the very least, don't focus on them.
Just go to an advanced planet and slaughter everything that moves. If you want to pull 2 missions at a time while you're at it, that's fine too. As a 0010 TKA, I was doing around 200K per hour. TKM could easily triple or quadruple that, for the simple reason that DPS output is that much higher.
On Dath, Yavin, and Endor, you can't move 50 feet with running into huge packs of nasty beasts.
This won't work well on Dant, tho, because there aren't as many random spawns.
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:23 am
#17
IMO a casual player should realize the extreme amount of playing hours required to do the six branches. I accually feel sorry for the Crafters because damn 
Going to cost them an arm and a leg while the Melee can keep on doing what we always do, make tons of money farming mobs.
Going to cost them an arm and a leg while the Melee can keep on doing what we always do, make tons of money farming mobs.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:59 pm
#18
DeamosInfinity wrote:
The Back side of the medalion is this :
If you do NOT read spoiler sites you will have no idea which branches are unlocked when doing the quests. That is a design flaw, and I am currently awaiting CSR's response to my simple question :
Will I be able to surrender Force Sensitive skills and pick up others in it's stead so I still have 24 skill points spent on FS skills once I become an Initiate or higher? Or will your extreme bottenecking and predetermined Branch reward system haunt me forever.
Oh come now.....where's the mystery in that?
Put yourself in Luke's shoes....."Will I survive if I hurl myself over this railing?"
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:03 pm
#19
Mystery my arse. What does Ranged Accuracy have to do with being a jedi? Nothing. There are plenty of branches there that are only there as fluff. Why should I be penalized for not holo grinding so I could have picked the ones I wanted? Let me build my charcter the way I see fit without throwing a massive 36 week bottle neck after me. (Two cycles is pretty much needed to get the branches I want due to bottlenecking and the inablility to chose the branches I want from the start)
If they can tell me that I can deselect things after I reach Initiate or Padawan then I have no beef with the system. But if I cannot they have messed with a part of my charcter that I am not at all comfortable with. Charcter development should be left solely to the player.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:17 pm
#20
Well, that's why you should read the guides on this site. You took the time to post here, why not take the time to read?
DeamosInfinity wrote:
Mystery my arse. What does Ranged Accuracy have to do with being a jedi? Nothing. There are plenty of branches there that are only there as fluff. Why should I be penalized for not holo grinding so I could have picked the ones I wanted? Let me build my charcter the way I see fit without throwing a massive 36 week bottle neck after me. (Two cycles is pretty much needed to get the branches I want due to bottlenecking and the inablility to chose the branches I want from the start)
If they can tell me that I can deselect things after I reach Initiate or Padawan then I have no beef with the system. But if I cannot they have messed with a part of my charcter that I am not at all comfortable with. Charcter development should be left solely to the player.
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:34 pm
#21
Because I could not in my wildest dreams think the Devs had done such a nutty thing as to dictate what branches I can get when.
I was wrong, that wasmy fault. Now I can only try do either get them to change the way branch selection works (Because lefts face it, not everyone reads spoiler sites) or find out if I can keep unlocking branches as I advance to initiate and padawan and later change the ones I do not want with the ones I do want over time. By filling them with exp of course, I'm not looking for a free ride, just the branches I think has something todo with being a Jedi.
If I can't have number one (The holowhiners could and hologrinding is 100x easier than the new system) then I will settle for number two.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:55 pm
#22
DeamosInfinity wrote:
Because I could not in my wildest dreams think the Devs had done such a nutty thing as to dictate what branches I can get when.
I was wrong, that wasmy fault. Now I can only try do either get them to change the way branch selection works (Because lefts face it, not everyone reads spoiler sites) or find out if I can keep unlocking branches as I advance to initiate and padawan and later change the ones I do not want with the ones I do want over time. By filling them with exp of course, I'm not looking for a free ride, just the branches I think has something todo with being a Jedi.
If I can't have number one (The holowhiners could and hologrinding is 100x easier than the new system) then I will settle for number two.
Take a good look at everything the Devs have posted about the new unlocking system. You'll find they have been purposefully vague about the details. So I'm not sure where you got your assumptions about any part of the system, other than by reading SOME of what is written by players on the board. If you're going to rely on what SOME players say, you should at least read it ALL, and certainly should not criticize the Devs if the information you did read is not correct.
Here's what they actually did say: "There is a quest for each branch that will evolve through each phase of the Village. Once complete, the skill branch is unlocked. "
I'm not sure how you could possible get from that statement that you would be able to pick any skill branch you wanted.
BTW: Hologrinding is NOT 100X easier than the new system. The new system, for example, would require you to get the same amount of weapon xp as it would take to master that profession 5 times. 6 times 5 is 30, which is how many professions most people had to master to unlock. And this doesn't even account for the fact that getting xp AFTER mastering a profession is a lot faster than BEFORE you master it.
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:10 pm
#23
Aye, that might be for the combat based toon. However hologrinders could master Five professions almost completely afk with only the use of macros. I can't do that unless I wanted fourbranches from the Senses tree. (Atleast till they nerf the recall ability for macros, Dancing/musician exp is currently at a 10:1 ratio, so while it may take time it could be done completely afk). I somehow don't see myself getting the exp for 5 professions for free
Where I got the idea that I could pick and chose? Why I got that idea from the thing you call charcter development. The part where you select how your charcter develops during the course of your time spent playing. And I don't mean any skill branch for any quest done. I of course meana combat prowness branch of my choice if I did a mission for the good Captain ect.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:22 pm
#24
DeamosInfinity wrote:
Dancing/musician exp is currently at a 10:1 ratio, so while it may take time it could be done completely afk).
Hmm....that's a good point. I mastered Musician for a holo in about 5 days. All AFK of course.
An that takes about 2 million xp, which would give you 200K FS xp. I know I could get that 2 million in less than 5 days at master, of course, say three days.....so we're talking 1.4 million FS sense xp every 3 weeks.
not bad....if you don't mind wasting 24 SP on those crappy Sense skills.
DeamosInfinity
Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:25 pm
#25
Well, it alls adds up is how I see it, plus There are certain branches I want because they fit my charcter better.
Now, if you wanted to do the least amount of grinding I would suggest a Combat profession / Entertainer with Master Medic thrown in there to start the sense quests with. Four sense branches and two combat branches and you'd be ready by the time phase 6 was about done. 2/3 of that done afk.
Rikilii
Fri Sep 03, 2004 3:29 pm
#26
DeamosInfinity wrote:
Well, it alls adds up is how I see it, plus There are certain branches I want because they fit my charcter better.
Now, if you wanted to do the least amount of grinding I would suggest a Combat profession / Entertainer with Master Medic thrown in there to start the sense quests with. Four sense branches and two combat branches and you'd be ready by the time phase 6 was about done. 2/3 of that done afk.
yep, but like we said, you're a jedi stuck with 24 useless skill points.
Actually...there are only really4 trees that are useful as a Jedi, so you could cut down your grind a bit by just doing 2 through musician experience
you could keep one master combat profession.....then AFK master musician during the day and overnight during the phases where you're grinding combat.
Then, for the last 2 phases, you could AFK musician 23/7