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Thread: XP loss
GirovDzatey wrote:
sorry but xp loss is absolutly necessary. Jedi should be losing skill boxes and the penalty for death should grow as a jedi puts more skill points into jedi.
Jedi cry about xp loss & the penalties for playing jedi, and then wonder why your nerfed so bad. Without the penalties, you should be nerfed down again to match up against any other combat prosession.
I agree that with the above statement if and only if the person hunting me has something to lose as well. BH's want Jedi to lose something more than they do now, well then they should be put something on the line as well. You want my skill boxes. Fine, I want yours if I db you. Too much to you say, how about you lose the ablity to hunt for other Jedi for 7 days or you get put on terms for other BH's you hunt you.
I really had no issue losing xp while I grinded, XP lose today for a full temp is not really meanless, even thou many say that. I will not let my self get in neg, because as changes take place I might need to change temps, or heck I might want to just try something new. My only issue ever with the BH vs Jedi has been the fact that BH's have nothing to lose at all. I have over looked it as not a game stopper, but as more BH's call for greater penalties to be placed on Jedi for death, I have to say step up and and offer some type of risk and lost to the bh's that fail.
Traci
PoodoSweeper wrote:
Please for the love of god keep xp loss on and dont listen to all these crappy jedi who suck to bad to defend themselves or know how to run away!! dont you get sick of reading "wah i suck to bad and im a jedi. only full template can do this." Grind and get there!I got full template post CU unlocked my jedi 3 days before CU happened. i had the bh,I ran. i died a couple times but kept going. why cant people do the same. you did the grind it wasnt handed to you. why have it handed to you now. xp loss being turned off would be the lamest thing thats happened to this game yet. and if they turn it off the only thing i can look forward to is eating you crap, whiners for Force Rank , and you'll still complain your proffession sucks to hard.
Ok, please, in a coherent post, explain me, how does XP loss helps you, orhow does itbenefits you in this system. And avoid using the old beaten phrases like 'Because Jedi are stronger!', 'Because Jedi should be """HARD"""', etc.
If your problem is because 'You are just a whiny weak jedi' well, fine Im a whiny and weak jedi, and if you beat me once the FRS gets on, I will worship you and congratulate you. My problem is that I have to lose hours and hours of mindless grinding, my attacker doesnt. Thats my main problem.
Weak and whiny padawan out!
Eleutherios wrote:
"Not true I have taken out fully templated jedi with master bh/master pistoleer 0400 cm, with master pistols/master bh/4000 cm, with master marksman/master bh/master rifleman, master bh/master rifleman/4000 cm, there are smuggler/bh/rifleman hybrids who can chain mez jedi and kill them without taking one bit of damage. Also master pikeman/master doc can take a jedi out as well "
I'm talking about a straight 1v1 fight, not a bounty.
never ceases to amaze me. ya'll are getting a free ride to Knighthood with the upcoming changes and still you b!tch about xp loss. if you get on the terminals after publish 20, you deserve to lose xp. there is no reason at all why anyone should be on the terminals until you are full templated with the loss of group visibility.
and you wonder why the profession was nerfed to hell and back.
ericlatrelle wrote:
never ceases to amaze me. ya'll are getting a free ride to Knighthood with the upcoming changes and still you b!tch about xp loss. if you get on the terminals after publish 20, you deserve to lose xp. there is no reason at all why anyone should be on the terminals until you are full templated with the loss of group visibility.
and you wonder why the profession was nerfed to hell and back.
This is not publish 20, there is still room to b*tch. And what If I reach knighthood, as far as Im concerned a full template only gives you a 1 on 1 status for BH, this means, it will still take you a while yes, butit doesnt give me an 'I win' button anymore.
As a padawan, with the lack of pearls, the 'nerfed' damage and other abilities from jedi, the CDEF Lightsabers and many other things like well.. the CU, we are well.. FU**ED. And why do I deserve to lose XP, AND YOU DONT?
Realize that if they take xp loss away, Jedi will only become a weaker profession. You cannot have your cake and eat it too.
The only way Jedi will stop getting nerfs is if you people stop petitioning to have the difficulty turned down on them.
WarNerve5776 wrote:
BH should not get xp loss.They are a normal profession. The more some ofyou Jedi cry for things to be easier the weaker they will make the Jedi profession. If no one cried about skill loss Jedi would be able to be more powerful. Alot of you will say"But the grind to get a Jedi is way harder than any other profession",well,no one forced you to become a Jedi. You make it all the way thru the grind to get your Jedi only to complain that it's too hard to level. So they make it a little easier,and make you a little weaker. By constantly crying you are throwing away what you worked so hard to get.
Greetings
I think we should do away with jedi XP loss, BUT I also think a jedi should not be "better" then any other template.
We aren't as good as we used to be by far now, but our "downsides" are still the same, no actually worse.
We get 1/7th xp / mob but need *2 - *4 xp / box. Strange Logic there.
I am aware of the insane XP that can be done with Area Groups or Kash, but thats an issue that would be "fixed" with this as well. Reduced XP requirements would change the need for this stuff.
If that is not possible (I am wearing my flameproof suit here) then make the MBH Box require Investigation XP and make the MBH dying to a jedi loose the box.
It surely doesn't make any sense inplay but its a simple balance issue. Give the BH something to think about. Set them on the same level in the risk / reward department. TbhI use my MBH / MCM / 4000 Rifleman exclusively to hunt big game stuff (Kimos, Krayts, ...), as others do with their jedi, so the power base between the classes is not that much off, dependin on equipment and skills of course.
The BIG advantage of equalizing jedi would be the ended saber envy, a healthy boost to the economy as ppl would actually need stuff again. Jedis are too much of an economy killer as it is.
(Info on my personal jedi situation:
Boxes won by respec from pub9: many. Boxes won by respced in CU: many many more. BH Killed: 4, Death to BH: 3.
Aprox XP lost 1.5mil (last 440k last night for getting on the terms by doing Jabba's Themepark), Aprox XP won by system changes: too many zeros to count.
I used my token respec from Master Lightsaber / Master Defender to go to Master Powers / Master Enhancer. I feel very jedish now and make great special effects.
I consider myself an underdog powergamer. Opposite attraction I guess...)
Give Jedi XP for grounding BH that hunts them.Then there's always a reason to fight on both sides...and reason to run on both sides...
how can he say that?!...people need to understand that talking about something you do not know s**t about is not a very wise move...I could of written his dam name down here and let him be laughed at at least by 50% of ppl who read this...been Jedi since the first day of CU,never hiding,always out and grinding and 'it's not like I ever PvP'ed ' ROFLMAO I take on uber PvPers!!!! LOL ...man we get all kinds of kids here...Message Edited by KingVermir on 07-26-2005 03:28 PM
Colbey98 wrote:
Your skill points in jedi multiplied by 2000
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I have heard that you lose 10% more xp if the BH has an inspiration buff.