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Thread: The Complete Guide To Death Watch Bunker {updated 10/29/05}
ArdenS wrote:
Are you saying you just ran out of the room and then back in? Or did you get ejected from the DWB and then went all the way back down?
Ejai wrote:
I have made jetpacks and then turned around to re-enter and make another, only to get a "room is in use" message that doesn't allow entry for 60 minutes from the time the previous one was made. Did you use different MDE's or Artisan's to open the door and/or make the jetpacks? Based on your success, my current theory is that the timer is set for an individual, and that has stopped us because Kiero is both the MDE and the Artisan - and it is one or the other of those professions that is subjected to the timer.
ArdenS wrote:
Ejai wrote:
ArdenS wrote:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Kauri&message.id=483746
Made 6 jetpacks in 5h 30m on the kauri server last night.
Not calling BS... but I am very curious how you were able to work around the timer on the Droid Engineer's Crafting Room. Last time I checked (and this was within a month-ish ago) there was still a 60 minute timer that did not allow entry to the forge room by anyone for 60 minutes after a jetpack or mandalorian armor piece was crafted there... has the timer been reduced or disabled?
But, you already have.
Well, I don't know who told you there was a timer, they are wrong. I've been at the droid room with three groups before and the only timer is the five minutes the room is lock down while they are in there craftingand another five after they are kickout.
I've got to ask how you check this timer. Did you go twice and got down there and it didn't let you in? Just before this record run we went with two short groups. I was leading one and Grundel the other. We crafted two jetpacks within 10 minutes of each other. Just as soon as Grundel was kickout I started hitting the keypad. It unlock 5 minutes later. So on that run I would say there were 2 jetpacks crafted within 7 minutes of each other.
Ejected and re-entered. Took us about 40 min to get through the key spawns and back to the door... then we got the "room in use" error. We turned around and did a couple other things and came back after 60 minutes and got in with no issue... but I didn't spam the door terminal more than.. say... 3 times? I will adjust the guide - and thanks!!!
MADMAN69UK wrote:
Some nice info building up HERE about the Rebreather
It's already in the guide.
ArdenS wrote:
MADMAN69UK wrote:
Some nice info building up HERE about the Rebreather
It's already in the guide.
agro and how it affects rebreather crafting that could also be added to
the guide.
Also, I thought one or more of these was CL91?
Ejai wrote:
- Rageon Vart:(keyguy 1)........CL 90, ?k HAM
- Klin Nif:(keyguy 2).................CL 90, ?k HAM
- Fenri Dalso:(keyguy 3)..........CL 90, ?k HAM
MADMAN69UK wrote:
Also, I thought one or more of these was CL91?
Ejai wrote:
- Rageon Vart:(keyguy 1)........CL 90, ?k HAM
- Klin Nif:(keyguy 2).................CL 90, ?k HAM
- Fenri Dalso:(keyguy 3)..........CL 90, ?k HAM
I can confirm:
/bump
The old guide by Wengel - though nice - is seriously outdated... not to toot my own horn, but thanks to a lot of input I think this version is a lot more current. I wish folks would let it die so people could focus on this new thread... though I am very glad the whole BS debate about lowering the level of the bunker "down a notch" has not migrated to this thread. If I had the ability to prohibit posting about that on this thread or ban the person responsible I would!
Ejai wrote:
/bump
The old guide by Wengel - though nice - is seriously outdated... not to toot my own horn, but thanks to a lot of input I think this version is a lot more current. I wish folks would let it die so people could focus on this new thread... though I am very glad the whole BS debate about lowering the level of the bunker "down a notch" has not migrated to this thread. If I had the ability to prohibit posting about that on this thread or ban the person responsible I would!
I agree. The DWB should NEVER be made any 'easier' in any way. I think it is just right. In fact there a couple places and issues where I think it should be made harder. I am referring to the alum minerals and the foremans quest. I dont think people should be able to farm it every 3 days. But thats just my opinion. With alot of time and alot of patience the DWB can actually become fairly easy.
DFazin wrote:
About the Binary Liquids and the Liquid Protective coating, they only drop from Deathwatch not Black Sun in the DWB and have a drop rate of 1%.
The best estimate I've heard is actually 0.01%
Ejai wrote:/bump
The old guide by Wengel - though nice - is seriously outdated... not to toot my own horn, but thanks to a lot of input I think this version is a lot more current. I wish folks would let it die so people could focus on this new thread... though I am very glad the whole BS debate about lowering the level of the bunker "down a notch" has not migrated to this thread. If I had the ability to prohibit posting about that on this thread or ban the person responsible I would!
Gosh, that sounds like you don't like to live in a country with freedom of expression...
I may not like what you have to say... but as long as you're not flaming/trolling, I would defend your right to speak your mind all the way.
ZarienYage wrote:
Ejai wrote:
/bump
The old guide by Wengel - though nice - is seriously outdated... not to toot my own horn, but thanks to a lot of input I think this version is a lot more current. I wish folks would let it die so people could focus on this new thread... though I am very glad the whole BS debate about lowering the level of the bunker "down a notch" has not migrated to this thread. If I had the ability to prohibit posting about that on this thread or ban the person responsible I would!
I agree. The DWB should NEVER be made any 'easier' in any way. I think it is just right. In fact there a couple places and issues where I think it should be made harder. I am referring to the alum minerals and the foremans quest. I dont think people should be able to farm it every 3 days. But thats just my opinion. With alot of time and alot of patience the DWB can actually become fairly easy.
It is very elitist to say the DWB is fine the way it is. It isn't, and the only people who will defend it, as best as I can tell, are those who don't like to share the fun with others who aren't powerplayers or uber el337. It's the old mentality, "let's defend exclusionism as long as it doesn't exclude me".
Getting alum minerals every 3 days hardly constitutes "farming", it seems very legit in light of the fact that it is needed for the crafting, besides it's not easy for more than one person in a group to work on the foreman's quest at a time, to say the least.
I've enjoyed over 100 DWB runs, have had great success at it in two live servers, and I'm perfectly aware that with the right group it can be relatively easy... and tedious, even, if you don't have the keys in advance. And as much as I like it (and think it's the best thing in the game, professions aside) I am 100% certain that it ought to be turned down a notch, for the sake of the player base at large -- not everyone is a powergamer or an uber-el337ist. So I definitely think the mobs should be brought down a notch, with the exclusion of the bosses and the overlord. I mean, in the sense of movie continuity it's silly that a Jedi can't strike down a BD with one strike and a SBD in two or three. The drop rates, too, should be reexamined, the most sought-after drops are practically impossible to obtain during normal gameplay -- the only folks getting a steady supply of them are those that are farming the DWB (which is practically exploiting).
Bring down the levels in the DWB, make it more accessible to more players who might enjoy it, increase the drop rates a little bit... the devs really need to show the DWB some love; it's one of the best things the game has got going for it. I <3 DWB!
Sp4nky wrote:
...some stuff...
Second..pikeman...they're useless, no matter what the situation is..
...more stuff...
Message Edited by gelfling_winterfell on 09-15-2005 05:15 PM