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Thread: Friday Feature March 4th – New Desktop Wallpaper!

DeQuosaek
Sun Mar 06, 2005 6:41 pm
#157






Nononsense wrote:




Rakos_Rokarr wrote:

dont knock on TH...hes just the delivery boy on the forums...he has his bosses...be mad at them



Your boss can tell you to lie, but he can't make you do it. Your boss can tell you to go back on your word, but he can't force you to. IF (and this is one huge if) the problem lies with TH's bosses, then he should have been a man and quit long ago. Since he didn't, he's as culpable as "they" are.






HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


That's a good one, because we all know a real man would quit a good job that he loves because some people onan internetforum are insulting him!





Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

Qui-Gonzalez
Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:10 pm
#158






DeQuosaek wrote:





Nononsense wrote:




Rakos_Rokarr wrote:

dont knock on TH...hes just the delivery boy on the forums...he has his bosses...be mad at them



Your boss can tell you to lie, but he can't make you do it. Your boss can tell you to go back on your word, but he can't force you to. IF (and this is one huge if) the problem lies with TH's bosses, then he should have been a man and quit long ago. Since he didn't, he's as culpable as "they" are.






HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!


That's a good one, because we all know a real man would quit a good job that he loves because some people onan internetforum are insulting him!








You are either TH or his biggest fan ever. I will congratulate them when they do something right, I have in the past and HOPE to in the future. If they do something wrong, they need to be held accountable, and frankly, he put his foot in it this time whether you want to admit it or not. He is a talking head who is guilty of one thing...speaking out of turn of his bosses. He said he would let us know about the delay and hasn't. You don't feel it should be something to be held to? A real man wouldn't give his word about something and back down from it either.


Can you honestly not see the error or the slap in the face this awful Friday Feature was? Three new wallpapers, two of which any boob with Photoshop and SWG could have made, and one which has no actual bearing on JTL at all? I have heard of fans, but by God man, you are being downright delusional. Let's see what other services you pay for....these are guesses mind you, cell phone, home phone, cable, electricity, water, gas, insurance mortgage and car? If one of these companies went back on something they said you would be receiving, can you say you would not be irate?


Face it, this is another service that WE pay for so a certain degree of responsibility goes with the service rendered. We pay for a place to unwind, we pay for customer service(Which has been improving) and we pay for some form of communication with the team who brings us these things. How many months ago was it that TH's boss(wonder why they gave him a boss and not Q when he was running the show?) Calandryl said that communication would be improving.


Face it, before this patch hit, the team was well and truly on the right path to making this game infinitely better. Aside from the GCW changes, this patch was a HUGE backstep. Everyone loved the increased spawns on the last patch, the increase in loot drops was bringing things back in line, economically, fun wise, etc etc. We get this last set of patches and things go to hell. Spawns dry up, loot no longer drops etc etc. Sure, there is an alledged fix coming Tuesday, but we know how that goes?


Yes, I take the good with the bad, but I also do not look at SWG through rose colored lenses. You have consistently put people down for decsension to the Community Relations staff for no other reason then YOU think we are wrong. Things have not gone how Calandryl or Tyrant have said they will, yet we are supposed to take it on the chin, right? If it were a free service provided by SOE, I would tend to agree, but given that we are paying them for the best service they can offer, WE feel WE deserve more. That is not any more wrong than you thinking you get just enough. They do not need you to defend them anymore than the players need me to defend their opinions...these are just mine. Please back slowly away from the soapbox and I will do the same.




Gonz
~ Eclipse's resident Stick-in-the-Mud!~
The "Edit" feature is of the Dark Side..

Qui-Gonzalez
Sun Mar 06, 2005 11:56 pm
#159






DeQuosaek wrote:





Qui-Gonzalez wrote:





DeQuosaek wrote:





Nononsense wrote:




Rakos_Rokarr wrote:

SNIP


SNIP





SNIP






SNIP





Yeah, you're right. Since things didn't go exatly the way YOU wanted, the team is doing a horrible job and ought to be flogged. Schedules change all the time and they are not obligated to do anything but provide you with a service, which they are.






Again, I said it is not about you or me or what I think, but when a general consensus is they screwed things up, THAT is what people, other than you or I actually think. Who said flogged or any form of harsh treatment such as that? Schedules do indeed change all of the time, and part of the service of anyone who is part of a schedule change is communication regarding said schedule change. A simple "We had to push it back because of..."whatever reason would have sufficed AND been TH holding to his word.


It is not about schedule changes, or flogging the Devs here, regardless of what you may think. It is about a simple thing, I tell you one thing and go back on it, you are going to be well within your reasoning to be upset. The anger should be expected. I don't downplay anyone's right to be angry with the team for this publishes few missteps, and in all honesty, more things were broken than were fixed. Again, I love the GCW changes, but hate the loot changes, the buggy faction base fighting, the unbalanced nature of the bases et al. Funny that all of these things were tested, found flawed and still pushed live. This is after the fiasco with the rubberbanding publish where Tyrant said...


"Every publish has a two week testing cycle, 4-10 days of which is on the public TC, dependent on the element. We will not commit to a actual ship date until we know the publish no longer has a known show-stopping issue. Which is why you won't get actual publication notice most of the time until the day before it happens."


Sure, for some, loot may not be a game breaking issue, nor may PvE base issues such as unbalanced mobs in Rebel bases and not in Imperial. CTD may not be as bad as it was, but it is still an issue for a good deal of players. Let's not even address the BH/Jedi combat issues with BH using an exploit that was told to the Dev team during testing. So, tell me, aside from the GCW changes, what was "fixed" in this publish? "We fixed krayt drops so only giant canyon and ancients drop pearls" but guess what? The drop is still horrid since this publish. Mobs still seem to be missing from the wild areas, and you can forget it at all without a server restart after 24 hours. JTL goes highly ignored, and PvP in JTL is a complete Charley Foxtrot.


These are just a few bad points. A few of the good points are the interaction, the content in game, the GCW/TEF removal changes, some of the dungeon areas have really cool stories, the music, the sense of immersion, the beauty of a Naboo sunrise and a Tatooine sunset. I could go on with a litany of things I like, but the one I like the most is the sense of immersion. So, should we not hold them to the high standard we all know they are capable of or be like you and accept the tripe they feed us(Oh look, screenshots...yummy). I prefer to congratulate someone when they do something right and not blow sunshine and rainbows up their rears when they do something wrong. You are doing the latter. Aside from the Ood Bnar wallpaper, the rest are 15 minute photshop crap.


Call a duck a duck for cripes sake.



Gonz
~ Eclipse's resident Stick-in-the-Mud!~
The "Edit" feature is of the Dark Side..

TheFightingCorcoran
Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:13 am
#160

Office Space anyone?




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TheFightingCorcoran
Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:14 am
#161

Oh yeah when I read this:

"Friday Feature March4th- New Desktop Wallpaper!" I seriously thought it was a joke. I was like haha TH you old dog...




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Vexthor
Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:38 am
#162

I would like the firespray in 1600x1200 but 1280x is the biggest



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DeQuosaek
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:10 am
#163






Qui-Gonzalez wrote:

It is about a simple thing, I tell you one thing and go back on it, you are going to be well within your reasoning to be upset. The anger should be expected.



Fine. You (and everyone else) have every right to be upset. Go for it. It doesn't accomplish anything. At least you're a lot more rational about it thansome people.


The rest of your message had a lot of good points, but I'm not exactly blowing sunshine up their asses. I just believe I have a little more patience than many folks around here and I know the devs aren't morons and are indeed interested in making the game better. When I'm talking about people giving them the due respect for making such a fun game I'm just trying to counter all of the angry messages.


Some of usstill appreciate the hard work they are doing even if every Friday Feature isn't about the CU. (much like TH said they wouldn't be) Though I do agree with you on the point that it would have been nice if he told us why there was a delay since he did say: "Sometime next week we should have an announcement for you next week on why there has been an extra delay." Maybe since he said next week twice in that same sentence he meant two weeks from that post.


Unfortunately it was probably an announcement that someone else wasn't quite ready for him to make for one reason or another. But a quick message that stated, "I can't give out the details on what was causing the delay yet, but I may be able to sometime soon™ " Would have gone a long way toward calming some of the anger even though it isn't what everyone wants to hear.


Of course... he did say, "I am also working to get the announcements out as soon as possible, and as soon as we can, we will." which is basically the same thing. That seems to have been overlooked by many folks.




Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

Bix1
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:11 am
#164



Quote from: Calandryll


The straight answer on CU is that it has gone through revision and some redirection. The previous versions simply didn't solve the problems we wanted to solve and didn't improve the core combat system as much as we wanted to.


That's a cut and paste from here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=2027.35



Maybe that's why the Friday feature was wallpaper. That same site claims Tyrant has left the team??!!





DeQuosaek
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:47 am
#165






Bix1 wrote:



Maybe that's why the Friday feature was wallpaper. That same site claims Tyrant has left the team??!!




What are you talking about? That site doesn't even mention Tyrant. And the latest Dev post is from nearly a month ago. (Feb 11th)





Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

Bix1
Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:58 am
#166




Bix1 wrote:



Maybe that's why the Friday feature was wallpaper. That same site claims Tyrant has left the team??!!





What are you talking about? That site doesn't even mention Tyrant. And the latest Dev post is from nearly a month ago. (Feb 11th)



Try here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=8b0df07b281f8aa7e19f8ba2407485eb&topic=2420.0



Could be BS who knows, I know the communication on the last 3 weeks here has died.


DeQuosaek
Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:11 am
#167






Bix1 wrote:




Bix1 wrote:



Maybe that's why the Friday feature was wallpaper. That same site claims Tyrant has left the team??!!





What are you talking about? That site doesn't even mention Tyrant. And the latest Dev post is from nearly a month ago. (Feb 11th)



Try here:

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=8b0df07b281f8aa7e19f8ba2407485eb&topic=2420.0



Could be BS who knows, I know the communication on the last 3 weeks here has died.




D'oh! I meant that thread didn't mention it. I'm not familiar with the site layout, so I didn't look around much. Hmmm... I hope it's just rumors and not true. He seemed to be very no nonsense and heading the teamin the right direction.





Some of my pet peeve bugs:
•Armorsmith protection layers were not converted with the CU.
•Ship Details window does not close when you click "Travel" resulting in the message "You have lost the target. Closing interface."

TheFightingCorcoran
Mon Mar 07, 2005 11:52 am
#168



DeQuosaek wrote:


Bix1 wrote:

Bix1 wrote:
Maybe that's why the Friday feature was wallpaper. That same site claims Tyrant has left the team??!!

What are you talking about? That site doesn't even mention Tyrant. And the latest Dev post is from nearly a month ago. (Feb 11th)
Try here:
http://forums.f13.net/index.php?PHPSESSID=8b0df07b281f8aa7e19f8ba2407485eb&topic=2420.0
Could be BS who knows, I know the communication on the last 3 weeks here has died.

D'oh! I meant that thread didn't mention it. I'm not familiar with the site layout, so I didn't look around much. Hmmm... I hope it's just rumors and not true. He seemed to be very no nonsense and heading the team in the right direction.





Its 100% rumor.




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The Imperial Machine

Muldoon- EXOskeleton Industries
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JediMelvis137
Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:27 pm
#169

This is what goes through my mind as I read this:


Community: Are we there yet?


TH: Soon.


Are we there yet?


Soon.


Are we there yet?


(Maybe if I give them hope they'll back off) Next week maybe.


(Next week) Are we there yet?


No. Sorry. Soon.


But you said next week!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sorry. Soon.


Are we there yet?


NO! SHUT UP AND WAIT!


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Are we there yet?




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