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Thread: XP loss

Iaxa
Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:46 pm
#157






SimKest wrote:

Just give it time. And on top of it I can use a adv laser rifle which does way more damage than my cdef saber







Its sad, I carry a laser rifle as my main weapon too.


Sabers are for noob jedi lol


Still the devs feel they need to remove KD from a lvl 4 box b/c its over powered??????


p.s. oh wait, I forgot the "for a melee class" part.


Focker20
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:08 pm
#158






GirovDzatey wrote:


sorry but xp loss is absolutly necessary. Jedi should be losing skill boxes and the penalty for death should grow as a jedi puts more skill points into jedi.



Jedi cry about xp loss & the penalties for playing jedi, and then wonder why your nerfed so bad. Without the penalties, you should be nerfed down again to match up against any other combat prosession.





The problem is that we haven gotten nerfed down below other combat professions and still have the penalties.

Focker20
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:09 pm
#159






GirovDzatey wrote:


sorry but xp loss is absolutly necessary. Jedi should be losing skill boxes and the penalty for death should grow as a jedi puts more skill points into jedi.



Jedi cry about xp loss & the penalties for playing jedi, and then wonder why your nerfed so bad. Without the penalties, you should be nerfed down again to match up against any other combat prosession.





The problem is that we haven gotten nerfed down below other combat professions and still have the penalties.

RebelArchAngel
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:17 pm
#160



i believe if jedi get xp loss, everyone else should too, cuz at the moment, reg profs can out heal, out damage and out range any jedi prof, with no premium pearls and stuff liek that, jedi r just a reg prof that need to be fully temped to last at all



coming from a tkm/master fencer/master brawler/swords x111 that beat a fully temped jedi in a duel. its just not right.. he shoulda whooped my melee masta arse



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c0kes
Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:47 pm
#161







JoleneArcher wrote:




Jisrael wrote:
Answer me this, what does the BH lose?

a little decay on the uber elite weapons/armor/junk.

What does a Jedi lose?

1 to 2 days of grinding. Just to have more BH come after him while grinding.


What does a BH gain, by killing Jedi?

money, a lot of it, and bragging rights to say, ohhh, i killed me a jedi.

What does a jedi gain by killing the BH?

More BH after his butt.

where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here.






Well if they changed it, i wouldn't even run and hide cause i don't have to fear of losing work of 1 or 2 days.

People complain about coward jedi, but yet they have a reason to be cowards. With 1k XP per mob this is a lot of work while normal professions get up to 7k XP per mob.

Message Edited by JoleneArcher on 07-12-200510:48 PM






QFE both posts.


I dont really see why Bounty Hunters (or some players in general) agree that XP loss from death is still a 'Good Idea'.


I mean we know for sure that:

1) We are not that 1.5x Professions they promissed us. In fact we are way below the food chain. Because:

1.a) Combat Medics (even just the 4xxx hybrids) Outheal us.

2.a) Rifleman outdamage us.

3.a) Bounty Hunter in general (in combination with the above) kills us so easy, they get rich out of us, yet we cant do the same.


2) The legendary 'Lightsaber' is no more than a low damage and speed weapon, something close to a Striker Pistol, or a E-11 carbine. Why is such a powerful weapon so restricted in this game? Every time Im killing a mob of my own level, I wonder, why does this take so long? I lose almost 1/6 of my force for killing an NPC of the same, or a lilttle bit lower level, spaming heal/armorbreak/headhit/powerattack. (That is if im alone of course).


3) Our rate to gain XP is so low.. its close to combat XP for a regular profession [if you that are readingjust thought "BAH! I can cap combat XP inwith a few nades" please consider, we have to run from constant attacks of players, who like to wait until you get aggro from a lot ofcreatures or ar healing a friend, etc, we get 1k- 1.5k per kill, yet, for masterboxes you need 3.2 million XP] And its so common that you get what, 400k-500k in one day, you are about to log, and BAM a BH shows up (if not way before) you have to fight, try to run, you eventually die because of the reasons I said in #1 and there goes an almost 7 hour grind to the toilet. And the BH just stays happy with his new adquired money and places your name in his/her Bio.


4) And honestly, does anyone really care if we lose or not XP? No one will stop grinding to get a full template, thats for sure. New jedi are on their way, just let the phase change in a week or so, you have no idea how many new jedi will enter the game, so much for BH controlling the Jedi population... yeah right, all they do is get rich out of our hard earned character and hours, weeks,months or even years wasted in this game, Jedi is not a professions its like work, and XP loss makes it less fun that it alredy is.I would stand and fight BH if I didnt had to think about that300k XP im about to lose. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but a system in wich only 1 side gets a benefit from it, smells like BULL**IT.

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JediNizar2
Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:37 pm
#162






Jisrael wrote:
Answer me this, what does the BH lose?

a little decay on the uber elite weapons/armor/junk.

What does a Jedi lose?

1 to 2 days of grinding. Just to have more BH come after him while grinding.


What does a BH gain, by killing Jedi?

money, a lot of it, and bragging rights to say, ohhh, i killed me a jedi.

What does a jedi gain by killing the BH?

More BH after his butt.

where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here.





As s hol u get a 1 Free Chara Slot on the Same Server.... u get all the content and Boss mobs to kill and all the loot farming by jedi u get an Alpha class, u get all the attention from the Devs and Bug fixes



What get or did got a Smuggler in the last 2 Years? a Smuggler profession who can't smuggle, broken and useless skills, nerfs and lies from the Devs.....








Blixtev wrote:
Until the Producers decide otherwise, the game stay bugy how it is. and we will continue to nerf and ignore Smugglers





P__Day
Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:45 pm
#163






JediNizar2 wrote:





Jisrael wrote:
Answer me this, what does the BH lose?

a little decay on the uber elite weapons/armor/junk.

What does a Jedi lose?

1 to 2 days of grinding. Just to have more BH come after him while grinding.


What does a BH gain, by killing Jedi?

money, a lot of it, and bragging rights to say, ohhh, i killed me a jedi.

What does a jedi gain by killing the BH?

More BH after his butt.

where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here.





As s hol u get a 1 Free Chara Slot on the Same Server.... u get all the content and Boss mobs to kill and all the loot farming by jedi u get an Alpha class, u get all the attention from the Devs and Bug fixes



What get or did got a Smuggler in the last 2 Years? a Smuggler profession who can't smuggle, broken and useless skills, nerfs and lies from the Devs.....







a new slicing system last patch. the boss mobs and content is there for everyone. go back to some otehr place and whine noob.
JediNizar2
Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:57 pm
#164






P__Day wrote:





JediNizar2 wrote:





Jisrael wrote:
Answer me this, what does the BH lose?

a little decay on the uber elite weapons/armor/junk.

What does a Jedi lose?

1 to 2 days of grinding. Just to have more BH come after him while grinding.


What does a BH gain, by killing Jedi?

money, a lot of it, and bragging rights to say, ohhh, i killed me a jedi.

What does a jedi gain by killing the BH?

More BH after his butt.

where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here.





As s hol u get a 1 Free Chara Slot on the Same Server.... u get all the content and Boss mobs to kill and all the loot farming by jedi u get an Alpha class, u get all the attention from the Devs and Bug fixes



What get or did got a Smuggler in the last 2 Years? a Smuggler profession who can't smuggle, broken and useless skills, nerfs and lies from the Devs.....







a new slicing system last patch. the boss mobs and content is there for everyone. go back to some otehr place and whine noob.






shut up... after 2 years we got this crap?!!! we didn't ask about a new Slice system, a systeme where we have to loot Boss mobs only vincible by jedi to get loots that aren't droping....


We Smuggler would give up the slicing if we could smuggle!!! what if they take out the force or the Light Saber from the JEDI?!!!!!!


now who is the noob??


u jedi just want an"I win botton"

this is an Appel to all the Devs... PLEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSE give the Jedi a skill with wich they can kill any palyer or npc with 1 hit. please give them all loots and give them 10Mil credit every day so they just shut up and stop whining....

Message Edited by JediNizar2 on 07-13-2005 02:02 AM






Blixtev wrote:
Until the Producers decide otherwise, the game stay bugy how it is. and we will continue to nerf and ignore Smugglers





AtonuTragona
Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:57 pm
#165

In the Golden Age of SWG, the solo grind on your way up the ladder as a jedi was a badge of honor and courage. You'd ask why you haven't seen so and so, and you'd hear they were off grinding and making something of themselves. This kind of mystique made me want to try to be special.


Post nerf, the worm has turned drastically. The devs have killed everything that was good about the old game and replaced it with garbage. Jedi are just another broken, hated, nerf targeted profession like all the other professions now.


I don't see the purpose to xp loss anymore, so I say get rid of it.




Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:24 pm
#166






JediNizar2 wrote:






P__Day wrote:





JediNizar2 wrote:





Jisrael wrote:
Answer me this, what does the BH lose?

a little decay on the uber elite weapons/armor/junk.

What does a Jedi lose?

1 to 2 days of grinding. Just to have more BH come after him while grinding.


What does a BH gain, by killing Jedi?

money, a lot of it, and bragging rights to say, ohhh, i killed me a jedi.

What does a jedi gain by killing the BH?

More BH after his butt.

where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here.





As s hol u get a 1 Free Chara Slot on the Same Server.... u get all the content and Boss mobs to kill and all the loot farming by jedi u get an Alpha class, u get all the attention from the Devs and Bug fixes



What get or did got a Smuggler in the last 2 Years? a Smuggler profession who can't smuggle, broken and useless skills, nerfs and lies from the Devs.....







a new slicing system last patch. the boss mobs and content is there for everyone. go back to some otehr place and whine noob.






shut up... after 2 years we got this crap?!!! we didn't ask about a new Slice system, a systeme where we have to loot Boss mobs only vincible by jedi to get loots that aren't droping....


We Smuggler would give up the slicing if we could smuggle!!! what if they take out the force or the Light Saber from the JEDI?!!!!!!


now who is the noob??


u jedi just want an"I win botton"

this is an Appel to all the Devs... PLEAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSE give the Jedi a skill with wich they can kill any palyer or npc with 1 hit. please give them all loots and give them 10Mil credit every day so they just shut up and stop whining....

Message Edited by JediNizar2 on 07-13-2005 02:02 AM





I'm kinda with Nizar...'cept for the stupidity in the last paragraph.


Smugglers still need mucho love...the RIGHT kinda love. They got a new slicing system, but from what I understand it is a huge PITA.





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Eleutherios
Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:49 pm
#167

"where is the fairness in this, I would agree , no more XP loss. Maybe there would not be many BH whining , " oh he ran , and cloaked and hid in his house, then logged off." as it is , Jedi is soooo nerfed, were pretty much the same as any profession, the only difference is, it took us 6 months to a year to get here. "


Keep in mind thata fully templated Jedi will own a fully templated Normal. I've yet to see a straight 1v1 duel where the fully-temped Jedi didn't win. Besides, Jedi is supposed to be hard mode -- it's not supposed to be as easy as a normal profession. There needs to be SOME risk involved in it, or else everyone will be Jedi quickly. And that's bad for you because that measn more nerfs.



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P__Day
Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:21 am
#168

i would take skill loss, and saber tef back if it ment i could get the pre 9 power back.
Melneck
Wed Jul 13, 2005 12:44 am
#169






WarNerve5776 wrote:

BH should not get xp loss.They are a normal profession. The more some ofyou Jedi cry for things to be easier the weaker they will make the Jedi profession. If no one cried about skill loss Jedi would be able to be more powerful. Alot of you will say"But the grind to get a Jedi is way harder than any other profession",well,no one forced you to become a Jedi. You make it all the way thru the grind to get your Jedi only to complain that it's too hard to level. So they make it a little easier,and make you a little weaker. By constantly crying you are throwing away what you worked so hard to get.





Okay you've made your point already. Stop posting the same thing. It didnt make sense the first time....



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