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Thread: Is buffing ruining gameplay?

foddder
Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:01 pm
#1

Buffing is ruining my SWG game experience.


XP is sooo hard to get that its not worth grinding unless I'm buffed. As a result I never play unless i can play for at least 2 hrs or more (otherwise its not worth paying for the buff).


As well, there are no more groups. I use to play on a Chimera-Europe, and people grouped all the time for hunting. It was great, and I got to interact and talk to lots of players. Now i play on Tempest, no one groups. Im not sure if its because of the buffs.....or if Europeans just play differently. I suspect its cause of the buffs.


I started a new character and needed some cash. A friend recommed that I hunt Lok avian meat (apparently its needed to make buffs)....so i did. Then i sold it for 100 credits per unit. Normally I wouldn't complain about being rich....but a Novice pistoleer shouldn't have 800k in the bank.


What are ur thoughts?
Kinnison75
Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:14 pm
#2

I don't think buffs are ruiningthe game, I think the level of the buffs are what ruin the game. First of all, it doesn't matter what your origninal stats are, you will get the same buff quantity and time.

What is the point of spice but to stack on top of Buffs? Yet Buff packs are not 'Illegal' nor is being buffed

THere should be know way a single players should be able to take down a Krayt by himself, or with a handful of friends.

I guess that is why there is going ot be supposeadly a combat revamp.. some day... i think



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Jenifer
Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:18 pm
#3

yes, I would say so! Seems like all SOE do is make money drains for us players. Start adding up what armor, weapons, buffs, food, drinks and spice cost you, then tell me pvp is fun. And thats just for pvp. Start adding Shuttle tickets, swoop repair, house money, city money.We have to keep killing things in this game, just to make what we need to survive! Boba Fett is the most lethal Bh in the universe you say? well almost every player in the game has killed 2000% more then him. He should be a whimp ok, ranting over hehe


I think they need to look at the ham bars. Normal stormtroopers have 9-10k hams. Why can't npc's have normal hams? they can just give them resist to things, but they should have the same rules and PC's. IfSWG was a normal rpg game and SOE was a game master, he would be without players. npc's have insane hams and are now useing specials. specials is a good thing, but they should have the same rules, same armors, same weapons, same classes as us... when you are master in 3 combat classes, you should be one of the most powerful men/women is the galaxies



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akaDEATH
Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:45 am
#4

Poor Babys


Its people like you that are runing the game..... no matter what changes SOE makes there is always going to be someone Crying about it.


Learn to deal.





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fr00g
Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:46 am
#5

800k isn't alot of money, paying 10k to grind doesn't ruin the game.



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Xaky
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:23 am
#6

2mil on bank and a house full of stuff worth 3mil and I'm novice BH on chimera

On the topic... I loved the time where we had to group up to 40 people just to go through the Jinda cave because we had no armor or buffs and I can't wait to see buffs nerfed again.



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Spank-A-Thon
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:38 am
#7

As a wook who had no access to armour for a long time, I can safely say it's not buffs that are "ruining" things - it is in fact, armour...


Even with a 2200+ full buff, I could not solo Janta missions on Dantooine; now I have access to my 80% Kinetic Hunting Armour I can.


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Ajo79
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:42 am
#8

The current level of buffs along with the composite armor has reduced the difficulty of the game to 'none'. Only the uber-mega-powerful monsters can hurt you.


Playing unbuffed solois not an option cause, then you'll kill yourself by using specials. To get Xp then you have to group. But people don't do that, they choose uber buffs and armor instead.


Lowering the buffs and reducing resists should do the game interesting again. But then people will complain that they can't mass-slaughter Jantas or alike anymore.



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ReptileSpit
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:52 am
#9

The devs have already said that buffs will be reduced big time with the combat revamp early next year, so enjoy the overpowered buffs and pseudo God mode for the few months while you can.

can-i-car
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:54 am
#10

i can't remember the last time i was in an actual hunting group whenever i fly to dantooine mining outpost, theres about 4 Docs buffing all stats for 2500 which last for 3hrs 30. Now if your a profession like Swordsman/TKM/Pikeman/Fencer or if youra defence stacker then all i can say is.


You can make on average 700k an hour doing mokks/jantas basically around 2mil per buff set. Don't you think that buffs should cost a lot more than what they do wheres the profit for Docs?


It would be alright if the Devs reduced all armor by 50% and buffs by 50% maybe even more it would surely be great working as a team again to take out a rancor and no stand in the middle of a lair spin attacking




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Whatajoke
Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:18 am
#11

What's ruining the game, is the ongoing delay with the combat revamp. The ham costs all across the board screws this game up. Not just player ham cost, but the large ham of npcs, plus they do specials now too. We have to buff because of this. As of now, buffs are our only saving grace. I hate that this game has went from Pet-Wars, to Buff-Wars, but it sure beats
killing yourself merely by pulling a trigger on a rifle (200plus ham loss,without armor, makes sense doesn't it!) After Buff-Wars we will see the combat revamp just in time for Jedi-Wars. They will fix the combat professions once they are obselete due to everyone having a jedi (ok, alot, not all). Brilliant isn't it? I've studied quantum physics, and the way soe devs think baffles me more than anything I have ever encountered.
Ebonfire
Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:26 am
#12

Hahaha:


Buffs are working as intended.. you on the other hand are not.



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frisbee_j
Wed Aug 25, 2004 4:38 am
#13

I think buffs and armour are too powerful but I also think it is pretty stupid having to heal yourself if you do specials unbuffed.


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