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Thread: why am i dieing using nades
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SEPHIRTH
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:16 pm
#1
i use thermal with powerups on hurrton huntress lairs while in a solo group. i am master rifleman. what i do is go right up to lair(targeted) and attack. the first 5 corwd around me and 2nd five will start to spawn. meanwhile the first 5 are attacking me cause major damage. the throw speed i have is 45 i think. maybe 40. but since i'm throwing nades 5 times , my rifle wont shoot them and a combo of the blast from nade, and attacks from hurrton kills me and usually only get 1 killed. i get anywhere 2200+ to 2600+ buffs, and have comspite armor with 80%+ resist to all including blast.. why am i dying?
nerfherder321
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:23 pm
#2
SEPHIRTH wrote:
i use thermal with powerups on hurrton huntress lairs while in a solo group. i am master rifleman. what i do is go right up to lair(targeted) and attack. the first 5 corwd around me and 2nd five will start to spawn. meanwhile the first 5 are attacking me cause major damage. the throw speed i have is 45 i think. maybe 40. but since i'm throwing nades 5 times , my rifle wont shoot them and a combo of the blast from nade, and attacks from hurrton kills me and usually only get 1 killed. i get anywhere 2200+ to 2600+ buffs, and have comspite armor with 80%+ resist to all including blast.. why am i dying?
because grenades suck, and you get blasted from the grenade if you get to close... IE nades suck
Quadrajet
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:43 pm
#3
I'm sure someone else can give you more specifics regarding this, but I recall reading in one of those "grenading your way to FSxp" threads that you pretty much need quite a bit of TKA (4404?) in order to take advantage of the unarmed toughness (to handle the grenade damage) and melee defense (to help theagainst MOB attacks). This would explain why, despite decent buffs and armor, you're still getting pounded.
Could someone please confirm or deny this for me?
Kryxal
Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:59 pm
#4
I have 0400 TKA and Master Rifles ... I take FAR more damage holding a rifle than a VK, but need to hold the rifle for higher XP. I also have FD, so can hit twice as many GBNs with each grenade, and can stop grenading for a while if need be ... but at the moment I'd be better off with TKM. It's not worth changing, though, about another buff session for my 5th branch then on to Senses XP...
Jmasta-hibe
Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:01 pm
#5
get far enough in any melee profession for melee mitigation, lvl 2 would be Okay.
SEPHIRTH
Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:48 pm
#6
i met a guy who i think was right, my mele def is only 49. if i get 4004 tk it''l be 104 plus the fs makes it 124. i think'll i'll try that and get back to you guys. he pointed this out to me. i'm gonna try it and see, might as well try
Gh3ttoCru1s3r
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:51 am
#7
Kryxal wrote:
I have 0400 TKA and Master Rifles ... I take FAR more damage holding a rifle than a VK, but need to hold the rifle for higher XP. I also have FD, so can hit twice as many GBNs with each grenade, and can stop grenading for a while if need be ... but at the moment I'd be better off with TKM. It's not worth changing, though, about another buff session for my 5th branch then on to Senses XP...
i dont use a VK when im training and i still get lots of xp and toughness
Bossman505
Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:40 am
#8
I am Master Swordsman and Commando, so not sure of my Melee Defence. But I dont get killed, or anywhere near it when throwing nades. So TKM is not needed.
Mojomaster2704
Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:21 am
#10
LMAO, you will now have to repent for your sins nade grinder!!!
Can we have a screenshot of your corpse please just to complete the humiliation?
Slogoe MOjOwalker
-Diablo-
Can we have a screenshot of your corpse please just to complete the humiliation?
Slogoe MOjOwalker
-Diablo-
UTech
Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:16 pm
#11
Maybe this is a dumb question, in fact I'm sure it is, but how are you using thermals as a master rifles/master carbines? Don't you have to have commando 3000 or 4000? Do you stand more chance of dying to your own grenades if you're not certified to throw them? If I have no commando skills whatsoever, can I still throw thermals? Or can I assume that like other uncertified weapons, your damage output with them will be severely handicapped? Thanx 
SEPHIRTH
Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:50 pm
#13
i figured out what was wrong, i had only 49 melee def. so i dropped carbines and got 0004 tk for starters and i can now do kurrtons stalker lairs and kill them all. come close to dying if like a kunga or vortex interfears, but if just hurrtons or wuekners, i do fine. so melle def is the key. i am now gonna get enhanced reflexes melee deff up to make my total 129 melle def. and since i dropped carbines i will get my tk to 4044 so i can get 900k unarmed and 900k rifles, the rest of combat(180k learned so far) will be with nades
thanks guys
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