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Thread: Can't finish the grind before the CU hits...
Is it really even worth continuing to pursue, knowing that I won't be finished by the time the CU nerfs everyone's ability to gain xp?
Ulrick wrote:
Well, what I feared has finally happened. There is no way I can finish the xp grind before the CU hits. (Too many RL issues to deal with over the next few weeks). With that, and the reports I'm reading from TC, my hopes of my toon ever holding a lightsaber have mostly vanished.
Is it really even worth continuing to pursue, knowing that I won't be finished by the time the CU nerfs everyone's ability to gain xp?
Well, I would say that gaining as much XP as you can in the current system would be wise. When I saw the street date of the CU, I instantly revamped my template to enable grenade grinding, and I am going to finish it. I get between 100-350k of FS XP everytime I log, at a minimum. I have about 2.3 million to go, and my next few weeks are pretty busy in RL...so, we'll see.
I say grind as much as you can now...it can't hurt.
CU wont screw you up. If you really want jedi you will have it. Time will tell.
Message Edited by NOFXwookie on 04-11-2005 08:51 AM
NOFXwookie wrote:
God man. WHy do people post this crap. IF IT WILL BE SO DAMN HARD AFTER THE CU WHAT THE HELL MAKES PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN EVEN GRIND THE JEDI IF THEY ARE AFRAID THEY CANT EVEN EARN IT!!! think people. cmon. jeez.
NOFXwookie,
I really hate to bring this up to ya, but the concept of the CU is mainly to force people to STOP soloing, in other words, slow down leveling and force people to be more social.
Does that mean getting Padawon after the CU is impossible? No.
Perhaps you should read and try to comprehend the post before sending out your little gems.
What the poster asked is if IT WAS possible, or worth it to continue and finish post CU. And yes it is. I also recommend getting as close to six branches. When it hits in May, it's going to be just like playing another game at launch. Things will work, things work, and a lot of people will be upset. Hopefully I'm wrong, but with what I've seen so far, I think my hopes are nothing more than wishful thinking.
A year from now, more people will be playing SWG than they are now. The real question with the CU is who does it address? The players who are mainly soloers now, or the players who hated to be alone, who have already quit the game?
Arestal wrote:
NOFXwookie wrote:
God man. WHy do people post this crap. IF IT WILL BE SO DAMN HARD AFTER THE CU WHAT THE HELL MAKES PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN EVEN GRIND THE JEDI IF THEY ARE AFRAID THEY CANT EVEN EARN IT!!! think people. cmon. jeez.
NOFXwookie,
I really hate to bring this up to ya, but the concept of the CU is mainly to force people to STOP soloing, in other words, slow down leveling and force people to be more social.
Does that mean getting Padawon after the CU is impossible? No.
Perhaps you should read and try to comprehend the post before sending out your little gems.
What the poster asked is if IT WAS possible, or worth it to continue and finish post CU. And yes it is. I also recommend getting as close to six branches. When it hits in May, it's going to be just like playing another game at launch. Things will work, things work, and a lot of people will be upset. Hopefully I'm wrong, but with what I've seen so far, I think my hopes are nothing more than wishful thinking.
A year from now, more people will be playing SWG than they are now. The real question with the CU is who does it address? The players who are mainly soloers now, or the players who hated to be alone, who have already quit the game?
Arestal wrote:
NOFXwookie wrote:
God man. WHy do people post this crap. IF IT WILL BE SO DAMN HARD AFTER THE CU WHAT THE HELL MAKES PEOPLE THINK THEY CAN EVEN GRIND THE JEDI IF THEY ARE AFRAID THEY CANT EVEN EARN IT!!! think people. cmon. jeez.
NOFXwookie,
I really hate to bring this up to ya, but the concept of the CU is mainly to force people to STOP soloing, in other words, slow down leveling and force people to be more social.
Does that mean getting Padawon after the CU is impossible? No.
Perhaps you should read and try to comprehend the post before sending out your little gems.
What the poster asked is if IT WAS possible, or worth it to continue and finish post CU. And yes it is. I also recommend getting as close to six branches. When it hits in May, it's going to be just like playing another game at launch. Things will work, things work, and a lot of people will be upset. Hopefully I'm wrong, but with what I've seen so far, I think my hopes are nothing more than wishful thinking.
A year from now, more people will be playing SWG than they are now. The real question with the CU is who does it address? The players who are mainly soloers now, or the players who hated to be alone, who have already quit the game?
Arestal,
Thank you for reading my post. Thiswas not a "woe is me" post. But trying to get more of a reality check from those who are in similar situations as to whether or not Jedi is worth pursuing post CU.
I have unlocked 6 branches and am now just in the XP grind mode. When the first details of the CU hit, I also switched my template over to 4/0/0/0 Commando and started buying grenades en-masse. I can cap out and convert my combat xp in under a mind buff session and realistically can do that once daily at most. However, I also have 16 boxes left to fill at this point. (Ballpark 5MM FS XP left) Am I determined enough to grind that xp? Yes - but that's not my question.
Will Jedi be a profworthhaving in the new combat system? That is what gives me pause.
Ulrick wrote:
Will Jedi be a profworthhaving in the new combat system? That is what gives me pause.
Excellent question. I can only answer for myself, but it IS worth it to me. It wasn't worth changing my template over until I heard about the CU and it's effects, which has led me to take some hits in my sleep schedule and weekends so that I might pull off a full or partial buff once or twice during the workweek and then one or two more full buffs on the weekends. I h ave a reasonable expectation to finish the nade grind skill boxes before the CU, but I do not expect to get Luck completed in that time.
In a real way I see this as my opportunity to start over as a Jedi while everyone else is in essence starting over as well. No sense of the loss of power that Jedi used to have, as I will have never had it. Similarly, the limits and possibilities of the Jedi profession will be entirely defined by the new order, not requiring a rethink or retemplate or simple readjustment. In the short term I expect things will be very difficult, as I expect many aspects of the rebalancing will not be ironed out until a few months into live publish. Still, it's a journey worth it to me. Maybe viewing it this way may make it more palatable to you as well.
Ulrick wrote:
Well, what I feared has finally happened. There is no way I can finish the xp grind before the CU hits. (Too many RL issues to deal with over the next few weeks). With that, and the reports I'm reading from TC, my hopes of my toon ever holding a lightsaber have mostly vanished.
Is it really even worth continuing to pursue, knowing that I won't be finished by the time the CU nerfs everyone's ability to gain xp?
spyvsspy0110 wrote:
I don't see how this is really a "pity me" thread. The ultimate question that Ulrick raises is a good one. How will the change in xp affect those going through the FS grind.
According to Shensen, you can still solo, but get less xp than if you were in a group. I don't know how true this fact is since I haven't been on TC to try it out myself, but let's assume he/she is right.
Why should I be penalized if I don't want to group? I would like to imagine that there are some people like me who are limited to about 2-3 hours of game play per night during the week. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I find it quicker to armor up, buff all my stats, and grab some missions alone than it would be to stand in a starport spamming for hours about how I want to join a group. And what then? You join a group and find that "Jon" has to log in a hour, "Ben" has only been in the game for a week and doesn't know how a group should work as a "team", "Sam" doesn't have any of the new armor...can he borrow some, "Jane" rushes the lair and gets killed before the doc can reach her and starts screaming about a rez, "Carol" doesn't have a speeder,...blah, blah, blah. I could go on. But such has always been my experience with groups. It's always going to take time to find one and once you do, you run the risk of joining with people who will ruin it. I'm in a great guild full of mature people who do work as a team. So sure, I like some of the social aspects of this game, but I most certainly avoid people when given the choice because I have met far many more who make me wishI had the ability to force choke than thoseI want to fight shoulder to shoulder with.
So will the CU be more rewarding to groups asopposed tothose who choose to go solo? I hope not. What people don't realize is that thosewho go out andsolo a krayt or solo Melmake up far less of the population than those who don't. I'm aMaster Swordsman with some Medic. I got a wild streak on Friday anddecidedto try soloing a krayt. I was fully buffed, armored, weaponed with stims, brandy, canape, exo-protien wafers...you name it,I had it. And I still got mybutt handed to me.
I guess my endpoint is this.A player should not be rewarded more or less for being in a group or being solo. There should be just as much merit in taking down a hardkill aloneas there should be for taking down a harder kill as a group.
Annastriana
I totally know where you're coming from bro and typically in most MMORPGs you will find better xp in groups for two main reasons:
1) You can fight extremely tough mobs as a group
2) You get xp bonuses for being grouped (this is a standard in almost any game I've played online)
This is not to say you cannot solo tough critters, but you won't be able to lets say solo an Ancient Bull Rancor on your way to the village whereas a group would be able to. It's not so much a reward for grouping as it is being rightfully compensated for the level of mob you took down. You can still go out solo and fight yellow con mobs andmaybe some oranges (havent tried yet)and get great xp- the main difference is it will take more tactic and time to do so. So you see, you can still effectively solo, but you won't get xp as fast as a good group will. Unfair to the solo player? Yeah I think it is- they are basically forcing you to group if you want the best and fastest xp.
I like playing solo just because when you get this many people together in one place, the stupid people really stand out more and there always seem to be a few that slip into a group. I find that by the time I account for the deaths caused by said stupid people, I would have been better off solo and that's what I do (unless it's guildies of course and then we all know who the stupid people are in advance and can make necessary preparations lol 
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Personally I don't care much about speed as long as the solo play is there for those of us that want it. I can take my time.