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Thread: why can we convert Pilot XP into FSXP

DOBRA
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:42 am
#1

WHY is there a reason, i think it will also be a way to make space more interesting for people because at least in my server spce sector are quite empty

theEwokDude
Tue Oct 11, 2005 4:54 am
#2

I don't know the exact answer, but from what I hear people say it is because the pilot profession does not cost any skill points. Anyone can do it.



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Shrakk
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:22 am
#3

The devs have said that they wanted to keep space totally seperate from the village grind. I don't even think you can convert any kind of starship crafting xp towards fs xp. Although if they want to get people up in space more this would be a good way.



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Daetori
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:29 am
#4






theEwokDude wrote:

I don't know the exact answer, but from what I hear people say it is because the pilot profession does not cost any skill points. Anyone can do it.





I personally think we should have the ability to convert Rebel/Imperial prestige points to FS xprather than just space combat xp. I believe the Master Pilot title is something you have to work hard for (especially if you have few backup ships helping you) and is not something that "anyone can do".

As others have put it this would certainly encourgae the use of JtL for other than just travel...



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Rolfie
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:50 am
#5

I have over 80 million in prestige so what would you propose the conversion rate be?


Furethermore which of the 4 trees would these points go into?


Prestige is way to easy to get to be allowed to convert to Force XP.







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nanos303
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:51 am
#6

/agree.


especially since such a big part of the movies is the numerous references to anakin's piloting skills.


I think the original notion was that to keep space completely 'twitch' based, there should be equal ground between a casual and hardcore player in space, therefor no FS should be tied to space. I agree in the fact that there should NOT be a FS tree that gives better stats to your starship (like the vehicle control tree, just for space). So instead of just not giving us a space FS branch, the instead completely severed all ties between the two. I agree with you all though, and think a one way relation (i.e.- xp comes down to convert, but no stat bonuses go up) would be awesome. even if it was a rediculous conversion rate like 100:1.



p.s.- it'd have to be prestige and not starship combat, cause don't forget there are people that get quadrouple starship combat xp for previous masters





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nanos303
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:54 am
#7

and definitly should go into reflexes, wouldn't you think? an 80 million? ok maybe more like 1,000:1 lol.



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Saramar
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:59 pm
#8

probably because it's so easy to get. conversion rates would have to be crazy high.



although i would love to have a use for the millions of prestige points i have banked instead of going into deep space and blankly staring at a bugged rebel station /tear



about pilot taking no skill points though.. doesn't politician not take any skill points either now? i thought politician xp was convertable. could be wrong though, oh well




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Starson
Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:54 pm
#9

Because it's not supposed to be fun geting to Jedi. Space is fun.



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Jaspor
Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:01 pm
#10

Yeah, Politician XP is convertable and does not take Skillpoints, but it's you get XP passively, and cannot really "grind" it.


Personally, I've been wondering this myself for awhile. People say it's "easy" to get Space Prestige, but, really, is it any easier than ground xp?


For a Tier 5 fighter, you get, what, about 8000 prestige? For a level 82 mob, you get about the same XP, no? One on one, they probably take close to the same amount of time to kill, depending on your equipment.


I think somewhere between 30-1 and 50-1 would be a reasonable conversion rate for Prestige. It would still take people quite a bit of time to grind out millions of that XP to convert to all the FS XP you need.


But, like someone pointed out, at least it would be fun.





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Daetori
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:07 am
#11






Jaspor wrote:

Yeah, Politician XP is convertable and does not take Skillpoints, but it's you get XP passively, and cannot really "grind" it.


Personally, I've been wondering this myself for awhile. People say it's "easy" to get Space Prestige, but, really, is it any easier than ground xp?


For a Tier 5 fighter, you get, what, about 8000 prestige? For a level 82 mob, you get about the same XP, no? One on one, they probably take close to the same amount of time to kill, depending on your equipment.


I think somewhere between 30-1 and 50-1 would be a reasonable conversion rate for Prestige. It would still take people quite a bit of time to grind out millions of that XP to convert to all the FS XP you need.


But, like someone pointed out, at least it would be fun.







/agree


I was also thinking of conversion ratios along the same lines.


But the reason we are not allowed to do this is probably - as the Devs have pointed out - that space and ground FS need to be separate. If the lines were blurred Jedi (or FS characters for that matter) would rightly ask for space skill enhancements (like vehicular control that has an effect in space) and that to me appears to be the one thing that Devs are trying to stay clear of.


Would you, however, like to see this happen? I mean space skill enhancements for FS (or Jedi)?



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En1Gma
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:11 am
#12






DOBRA wrote:

WHY is there a reason, i think it will also be a way to make space more interesting for people because at least in my server spce sector are quite empty







because half of your Starfighter pilot XP was never earned. The tree that took you to 2/2/2/2 to 3/3/3/3 was just One mission BOOM skilled up. Another mission: BOOM skill up...all the way from 2/2/2/2 to 3/3/3/3


Thats why.





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Daetori
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:59 am
#13






En1Gma wrote:





DOBRA wrote:

WHY is there a reason, i think it will also be a way to make space more interesting for people because at least in my server spce sector are quite empty







because half of your Starfighter pilot XP was never earned. The tree that took you to 2/2/2/2 to 3/3/3/3 was just One mission BOOM skilled up. Another mission: BOOM skill up...all the way from 2/2/2/2 to 3/3/3/3


Thats why.








Yes, but that is hardly half of the xp as from 3333 to 4444 you need 4mill of xp



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