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Thread: BURN THE VILLAGE DOWN

Chroma_Key
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:14 pm
#1


The reason I despise the village isbecause (besides being completely uninspired) it could exist in any game and seems like a quick solution to repair the messed up previous holo system. It does not draw any material from the rich and vast Star Wars myth and it even contradicts it!!!


If a village of force sensitive, jedi-aspiring residents ever existed, the Empire would blast the entire planet. Andimagine what the Emperor and Vader would do tothat arrogant Mel who goes by the title of Sith. Who the hell is that guy??



Alsothe Village of Aurilliais a standard method, identical for all. Hence the detailed guide to complete it. IMO theFS to Jedi system should be flex and dynamic, depending on the community.



If you feel the same way asI dopls sign this petition to burn down the damn thing.






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Drav11
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:24 pm
#2

I like the Village. Also, I have a feeling the "force mist" protects it in some way. Big lasers arent strong with the force.

Sure, it seems a "little" out of place, but everything in this game does. I think it feels more mystical then alot of places.
NeoEcks
Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:37 pm
#3






Chroma_Key wrote:

Alsothe Village of Aurilliais a standard method, identical for all. Hence the detailed guide to complete it. IMO theFS to Jedi system should be flex and dynamic, depending on the community.







continuity, a flexible and dynamic system. wouldn't that be nice?


to be honest you know what else would be nice. some fixes for the problems we have had since before the village. problems that have persisted for over a year now. fixes for problems that are near game breaking that developed with the CU. fixes the community have been screaming for, cries that have thus far fallen on deaf ears.


i am NOT saying you don't have a valid point. you do. i just think before they start working on an entirely new FS system... the CORE gaming system needs some desperate help. before they add new content, we need what we have FIXED.


i DO like the idea though




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Gorba_JinDar
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:20 pm
#4






Chroma_Key wrote:


The reason I despise the village isbecause (besides being completely uninspired) it could exist in any game and seems like a quick solution to repair the messed up previous holo system. It does not draw any material from the rich and vast Star Wars myth and it even contradicts it!!!


If a village of force sensitive, jedi-aspiring residents ever existed, the Empire would blast the entire planet. Andimagine what the Emperor and Vader would do tothat arrogant Mel who goes by the title of Sith. Who the hell is that guy??



Alsothe Village of Aurilliais a standard method, identical for all. Hence the detailed guide to complete it. IMO theFS to Jedi system should be flex and dynamic, depending on the community.



If you feel the same way asI dopls sign this petition to burn down the damn thing.





You're right. But consider this. If you're arguing because of continuity within the Star Wars myth, which you are, shouldn't they get rid of Jedi all together? Unfortunately, flawed as it is, this is the best system they put together so far. And since it "Works," there is no reason for SOE to improve the proccess.





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Everitt_Cage
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:25 pm
#5

Thats true, if we achieved continuity, our Jedi would be deleted. How would that make you feel?

FourD
Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:26 pm
#6


I remember something from when the village was first introduced about how Mellichae's cybernetic arm isa result of an "incident" with Vader.


Also, I think they mentioned how theEmpire was paying Mell off to destroy the village, notice how there happen to be a buch of "sith" hell bent on destroying it?


Somebody should dig up that friday feature, would help alot.



LampoonoTioli





Chroma_Key
Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:35 pm
#7





Gorba_Jindar wrote:

If you're arguing because of continuity within the Star Wars myth, which you are, shouldn't they get rid of Jedi all together?






Let's forget about the EU in which we'll find tons of surviving jedi and examine just the canon facts.



In Ep6 Yoda says that when gone he is the last of the jedi Luke will be.


In Ep3 Yoda and Obi altered the transmission from the Jedi temple to protect the remaining Jedi that had survived order 66.



SWG is placed in the vague period between Ep3 and Ep6.


So there is no continuity flaw in the existence of Jedi in the timeline between Episodes 4-5. No canon fact makes it wrong.


On the contrary the Expanded Universe supports it and (fortunately) SWG draws material from the EU as well!






Unfortunately, flawed as it is, this is the best system they put together so far.




This is arguable but IMO the village is dreadful and poor so it is unacceptable.






And since it "Works," there is no reason for SOE to improve the proccess.





I will not comment this one.






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Chroma_Key
Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:03 am
#8





Gorba_Jindar wrote:

Wow, Relax.




Apologies, didn't mean to sound mad. English is not my mother tongue.






I was saying SOE considers it to be working properly, therefore they have no intentions of fixing it.



Yes SOE does not seem to share my point of view so this is why I am posting my beliefs.






BTW, the game starts immediately following episode 4.



I didn't say otherwise.







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Chroma_Key
Sat Jun 04, 2005 2:11 am
#9





Everitt_Cage wrote:

Thats true, if we achieved continuity, our Jedi would be deleted. How would that make you feel?






Hello Everitt, I disagree my friend. During Episodes 4-5 there is no canon reference that no jedi exist.


Also now that Episode 3 clearly stated that Obi-Wan and Yoda managed to alter the transmission from the jedi temple it is safe to assume that many jedi survived.


Remember that SWG has not reached thedate when Yoda tells your favorite line to Luke in Episode 6







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RoundWallKing
Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:30 am
#10

This is AN EMPIRE DIVIDED not A NEW HOPE.


The devs have stated many times that game play overrides continuity.



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niaseek
Sat Jun 04, 2005 4:00 am
#11


I-completely- agree with you, Jedi should be a Master/Padawan thing, there should be only a select few of people to do it, and it-shouldn't- take this long to get jedi!!!!!


And what excuse my language but PISSES me off even more than anything is that i decided to do the crafting quest, because I have done both the senses and combat quest, and wasn't eligable for the medic quest. So I go to get it, do the first few parts of the quest, and find that it is bugged!!"!!!!!!


HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET JEDI WHEN THE QUESTS ARE BUGGED?!?!?!?!??!!??!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?one?!???!?!??!?


But not only was it bugged, before I was informed that it was bugged by the wonderful and most efficent (cough) CSR team who BTW are nothing compared to the WoW CSR team (and they are french!), I decided to respec to crafter to see if thats why it wasn't working. Now keep in mind that I reactivated my account on the Saturday two weeks ago, which means that my respec time should run out TODAY, so i thoguht I had better turn back to combat template (TKM/Doctor) yesterday, thats a day before the respec time-out, but it says that there is a problem with the respec and to do a /bug report, so I did a /bug report and a customer service ticket, and still no answer, but basically I can no longer respec, so I am stuck as a Weaponsmith/Shipwright, this is an outrage, I should have been able to respec yesterday, its as if they cut a day off my respec time, and more to the point it doesn't say that my respec has run out, it just says that there was an error in the system, please do a /bug report, and when i try to respec again it says that I have to wait 12 hours!!!!!


I blame this completely on the FS village, I wouldn't have respecced to crafter if it didn't exist, the fact is the village is worse than the holo system, I say bring in a Padawan/Master system!!!! OR make it MORE quest based, the grinding is too much, it is stupid, it is beyond stupid, it is idiotic, retardic(?) down-right STUPID!


Now I know some people might say that if I got off my lazy-ass and actually did some grinding then I would have jed, (Dan-Sav for once person) but that isn't the problem, I should be jedi by now, I WANT TO BE JEDI, I want to be able to grind with a lightsaber, its too damn boring to be non-jedi, i don't care if I never make it to knight, I just want to be Jedi Padawan. with all those jedi skills facing me in the eyes, with a lightsaber in my hand, with things being hard again, the fact is the CU is still all too easy, I was able to do the mother bug thing in Myydril Caves with a group of 5 and NONE of us had any problems, and 3 of us were not even level 80, OK I haven't tried the robot-lightsaber-dude yet. but I guarantee with a full group it will be easy. and the geo caves, we went down with 4 level 80s, one jedi unifinished template. and we owned everything, including the acklay, its not as hard as they said it would be, still NOTHING is a challenge, STILL there are thousands of bugs, OK I am still gonna keep playing, OK I will try to get TKM/MDoc again, although I will probably fail, I am just so pissed off right now because I am ONCE again shat on by SoE with their bugs, and I am stuck AS A WEAPONSMITH/SHIPWRIGHT!!!!! It's stupid, I want my fighting back!!!!!!



/sign to the village being burnt down, worst thing in the game



I don't know why I included such a whiney post in this topic, but I am really pissed off, sorry for my abusive language, but I just wanna be TKM/MDoc, let alone JEDI PADAWAN!!!!



/sign for the Master/Padawan system to whoever gave the idea a while back





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Everitt_Cage
Sat Jun 04, 2005 7:41 am
#12






Chroma_Key wrote:




Also now that Episode 3 clearly stated that Obi-Wan and Yoda managed to alter the transmission from the jedi temple it is safe to assume that many jedi survived.








I disagree with your use of the word 'many'. What was stated in the movie was that they were going to alter the signal IN CASE there were any survivors, so they NEVER said there WERE, they just didnt want to take the risk that IF there were, they would be trapped and killed. And IF there were, we know they would have been dead by ep VI, which is only a few years from this games time period. That means, logicaly, that most of the survivors, IF any, would have been killed in the 20 years between ep III and IV, not the very few remaining years between ep IV and ep VI where Yoda makes that comment. So IF there were any survivors, they would have been EXTREMELY few by this time, as they were ALL gone only a few years later.

qwerty01
Sat Jun 04, 2005 10:46 am
#13

This is a game.



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