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Thread: Questions that I have posed to the Developers Lets see what they say.
I really don't understand why there are quite a bit of angry posts in this thread. Our new correspondent is doing a great job; sure this list might not be the greatest, but why would the Jedi correspondent go guns blazing to the DEVs a couple weeks into the position? That would only lead to the DEVs ignoring any suggestion made from the Jedi correspondent. If you keep giving little nudges to the DEVs and little lists like this every month or so, everyone will be happy.
One last note to those complaining about MPowers and Mhealer not getting love on this list. Lets face it, a lot of jedi do NOT go Mhealer and most jedi have SOME saber skill in their template. This list tried to encompass a broad range of people; calm down and let the correspondent do his/her own method, and then learn. It is harder than you think to be able to pass things with the DEVs. You don't simply hand them something and they do it without second guessing anything.
MX13 wrote:
First off, I'm sorry Bac, this guy's obviously trying to compensate for something... very rude.
If you're gonna be a Troll, go to The Matrix Online. Treat others as you would like to be treat Mr. Know-it-all.
RAMBOW wrote:
Baciacca wrote:
Questions for the Devs from the Community:
I realize that there are alot of questions here. Any answers would be appreciated by the Jedi/Force Sensitive Communities. Thanks.
Jedi Profession:
1.When are the Pearl drops getting fixed? Jedi is a worthless profession without decent pearls to equip Lightsabers properly. This is obviously needed to be able to fend off the multiple BH encounters especially with the inadequate healing abilities of a Jedi at the moment and/or the every day grind. From what I hear this has already been fixed... since your the Core I would have thought you would have known that... This isn't fixed.
2.Are there any plans for Startle Shot and Concussion Shot to be fixed so that the “Chain root/warcry” effect does not happen? This was fixed already... again... Dont you keep up with the current game? This isn't fixed... try it.
3.Any chance that the Healing delays will be reduced or if not will heals in general be improved (ex. 4xxx Healer could give 2k heals instead of the 1.5k heals now); if so will this be in the FRS.
4.With regards to Jedi Cloak, will the following be fixed:
a.Jedi while on Force Cloak are /tar-able. Fixed in Publish 20 on TC... Do you not pay any attention?
b.Jedi while on Force Cloak can be agro’d by NPCs while running around in dungeons and in the wild.
c.Jedi while on Force Cloak can be seen just by the shadow below them that do not disappear if a player is looking at shadows underthesimpleoption.
d.Jedi are able to attack single and multiple targets while cloaked; combat spam will say nothing about what is happening because of this. Never seen this...
5.Jedi Discipline – Force Healer:
a.This profession costs far more than any healer profession to grind Xp wise yet is less efficient. How is this going to be fixed?
b.Also the xxx4 line of healer because Jedi very rarely worry about the effects of Poisons and Diseases let alone bleeds which do next to nothing worthwhile at the moment.
6.Jedi Discipline – Force Enhancer
a.The xx4x (resist buff) line in enhancer seems to be worthless due to the lack of state effects actually doing anything at the moment(other then the fact that they all do something atm.. sure)and also poison and disease resists seem to not work either. They do nothing wiseguy. Broken
7.Any chance of a comment on the implementation of a Master/Padawan System?
Force Sensitive Profession:
1.Will the old Mind Buff Crystals ever have a use again? This was a long and hard quest to get a now worthless paperweight.
2.Phase 3 Capture Enemy Leadership - Sith Commander moves way too slow and refuses to climb hills making only 1 base (the one nearest the Village) viable to complete the quest. Any Chance of getting this fixed?
3.Can we get a break down of what each Force Sensitive skills are supposed to do exactly? Some of them have less than accurate descriptions that are often misleading.
4.The first attack after the Old man visit has 3 Sith attackers with level 75 and Up. This is not possible for people without near finished templates. Think we can tone those attackers CL down a bit?
5.Some FS trees are broken, (such as the healing tree giving mods no longer needed and one tree in crafting which lowers the chance to fail while assembly when that was removed many publishes ago)
6.Will there be a chance to convert jedi xp to FS xp?
Message Edited by Baciacca on 07-08-2005 03:52 AM
How did you ever get the Core Job? You dont seem to know anything about the profession or the publish on TC...
Lol... being rude huh? Im not being rude im being honest... this guy was chosen by the Devs to represent the Jedi... but it seems he has no idea what is happening or what the community wants... As for your comments vs mine... Cloak isnt targetable on TC bloodfin... so yeah it is fixed.... Pearls are dropping as prem and flawless again.. so again your wrong... Chain rooting is gone as of pub 19... All Roots other then stopping shot break on Damage (stopping shot is not suppost to break on damage) so they are all working correctly.. so again your wrong.... as for stats not doing anything... you must not be a good PvPer... Blind lowers accuracy... and yeah it works.. not to noticable, but it does lower it... Stun lowers Action regen... again it is doing this.. not really noticable, but balanced... Dizzy makes it so you cant change postures... Learn your facts before you start trying to flame me...
I am just one of those people who thinks that Jedi is without a doubt the most messed up profession in the game, and has been for along time, and the last thing the profession needs is a Core who isnt prepared for the huge task infront of him... its my opinion.. not yours.
Hmmm, I was going to let this thread slide, but allow me to comment. Hopefully I can speak for everyone here. Sure, all these points are valid, more emphasis needs to be given to Master Healer, Powers is still far from a viable alternative to LS and people debate on whether it should be an equivalent or a support class, LS are just too low in damage compared to regular weapons, etc etc.
Now, the main issues that I beg SOE to answer and which wouldshed light ona LOT of issues, questions and discussions and provide direction on this forum are...
What is to be the role of Jedi in this game? What direction are you taking for us?
There are tons of misconceptions around Jedi, immersion, the timeline, overpopulation, the GCW, nerfs, alpha classes and such because SOE/the devs never told us why all these changes were done for real. Why were docs/CMs made more powerful in pub 19 and Jedi heals made weaker? No one ever explained it to us. There are 453763523 other decisions you took we await an explanation for. Tell us what you see for Jedi in the future, and we'll at least evaluate your decisions according to this direction. Right now, we can only guess... and speculate... which leads to a lot of flames and frustration.
Jediare being "balanced" back to the level of regular professions. Is Jedi to be an alpha class again when we get the new FRS, or is Jedi nothing more than a regular profession that is harder/longer to achieve because of the "cool" factor?
- All Jedi will stay pretty much balanced vs other professions, sometimes weaker, sometimes 1.5/2x stronger. Since there are too many of us, having us be an alpha class would be too imbalancing until the day when every player is a Jedi, which would totally ruin the GCW and SWG. Players will just have to accept that Jedi is a style, not power, that it will take a long time to grind, and in the end you get another regular profession with Jedi-like powers.
- Full-template Jedi padawans will stay pretty much balanced vs other professions, sometimes weaker, sometimes 1.5/2x stronger. They will gain the ability to become an alpha class through the FRS. A regular knight would get minor perks but have to be perma-overt/SF. As they rise in the FRS, Jedi will become their old self, with very powerful abilities as their current abilities are enhanced: better DPS, more force pool, higher accuracy, faster speeds, lower cooldowns, better blocks and defenses, etc. This would mean that merely completing the Jedi grind does not make you uber, the FRS would. Since the FRS limits the number of ranked Jedi in various ranks, it would also solve the overpopulation problem of an alpha class, since non/low-ranked jedi would be balanced with regular profs.
Given the latest trends in Jedi nerfs/changes in the CU and publishes 17-20, I honestly do not believe there is an option #3. I hope #2 is the right one. #1 Would be horrible.
Will Jedi remain in the GCW, or will they have their own Light/Dark war in the FRS, or both?
Self-explanatory. I'm sure all jedi and non-Jedi alike are dying to learn about this one.
New FRS? Master/Padawan System? Anything? Give us something!
We are dying for info here. Again, this probably would explain a lot of what is going on now. Throw us a bone. We know you submitted a new FRS to LA and await approval, but you really need to give us a direction of where these things are headed. Right now many do not even know why they should reach for, grind or keep Jedi. This would help.
Baciacca's list is valid, but I would rather have answers on these questions before anything. And it requires 0% development/coding/QA time... just communication!
Thanks for hearing us.
Baciacca,
What about Force Powers being a viable alternative to Sabers as was promised during the development of the CU.
If you get a chance please try a pure Powers template with no Saber boxes - the DPS is a joke.
Powers Jedi are suffering hardcore and are in dire need of help. Please let us know that you are aware of these issues.
-- A6
Treat others with the same respect you would want. Your post only shows your envy or distain for Bac, not your desire to fix anything. Regardless of your intentions it is pointless to argue with someone who clearly rants before they read. Good Luck to you.
RAMBOW wrote:
MX13 wrote: First off, I'm sorry Bac, this guy's obviously trying to compensate for something... very rude.
If you're gonna be a Troll, go to The Matrix Online. Treat others as you would like to be treat Mr. Know-it-all.
RAMBOW wrote:
Baciacca wrote:
Questions for the Devs from the Community:
I realize that there are alot of questions here. Any answers would be appreciated by the Jedi/Force Sensitive Communities. Thanks.
Jedi Profession: 1.When are the Pearl drops getting fixed? Jedi is a worthless profession without decent pearls to equip Lightsabers properly. This is obviously needed to be able to fend off the multiple BH encounters especially with the inadequate healing abilities of a Jedi at the moment and/or the every day grind. From what I hear this has already been fixed... since your the Core I would have thought you would have known that... This isn't fixed.
2.Are there any plans for Startle Shot and Concussion Shot to be fixed so that the “Chain root/warcry” effect does not happen? This was fixed already... again... Dont you keep up with the current game? This isn't fixed... try it.
3.Any chance that the Healing delays will be reduced or if not will heals in general be improved (ex. 4xxx Healer could give 2k heals instead of the 1.5k heals now); if so will this be in the FRS.
4.With regards to Jedi Cloak, will the following be fixed:
a.Jedi while on Force Cloak are /tar-able. Fixed in Publish 20 on TC... Do you not pay any attention? b.Jedi while on Force Cloak can be agro’d by NPCs while running around in dungeons and in the wild. c.Jedi while on Force Cloak can be seen just by the shadow below them that do not disappear if a player is looking at shadows underthesimpleoption. d.Jedi are able to attack single and multiple targets while cloaked; combat spam will say nothing about what is happening because of this. Never seen this...
5.Jedi Discipline – Force Healer: a.This profession costs far more than any healer profession to grind Xp wise yet is less efficient. How is this going to be fixed? b.Also the xxx4 line of healer because Jedi very rarely worry about the effects of Poisons and Diseases let alone bleeds which do next to nothing worthwhile at the moment.
6.Jedi Discipline – Force Enhancer a.The xx4x (resist buff) line in enhancer seems to be worthless due to the lack of state effects actually doing anything at the moment(other then the fact that they all do something atm.. sure)and also poison and disease resists seem to not work either. They do nothing wiseguy. Broken
7.Any chance of a comment on the implementation of a Master/Padawan System?
Force Sensitive Profession: 1.Will the old Mind Buff Crystals ever have a use again? This was a long and hard quest to get a now worthless paperweight.
2.Phase 3 Capture Enemy Leadership - Sith Commander moves way too slow and refuses to climb hills making only 1 base (the one nearest the Village) viable to complete the quest. Any Chance of getting this fixed?
3.Can we get a break down of what each Force Sensitive skills are supposed to do exactly? Some of them have less than accurate descriptions that are often misleading.
4.The first attack after the Old man visit has 3 Sith attackers with level 75 and Up. This is not possible for people without near finished templates. Think we can tone those attackers CL down a bit?
5.Some FS trees are broken, (such as the healing tree giving mods no longer needed and one tree in crafting which lowers the chance to fail while assembly when that was removed many publishes ago) 6.Will there be a chance to convert jedi xp to FS xp?
Message Edited by Baciacca on 07-08-2005 03:52 AM
How did you ever get the Core Job? You dont seem to know anything about the profession or the publish on TC...
Lol... being rude huh? Im not being rude im being honest... this guy was chosen by the Devs to represent the Jedi... but it seems he has no idea what is happening or what the community wants... As for your comments vs mine... Cloak isnt targetable on TC bloodfin... so yeah it is fixed.... Actually, it is on Gorath. I have Cloak and you can still /target. Do you even know whathe's talking about? Have youtested the command /target NAME?Pearls are dropping as prem and flawless again.. so again your wrong... Really... well NO ONE has yet seen these as far as I've seen on these posts or heard in-game. Who knows, maybe they are, but if they are they're next to zero. And the Dev's never stated they werecorrecting the dropping of P & F Pearls, they said they were fixing the overall drop % chance of all Pearls, and it hasn't gone up enough.Chain rooting is gone as of pub 19... All Roots other then stopping shot break on Damage (stopping shot is not suppost to break on damage) so they are all working correctly.. They are CHAINABLE. You can do the 2 back to back indefinatly. He didn't say "chain root" he said doing these 2 shots repeatedly. If they do so you can never catch them toattack or attack in time to beat the nexttime these shots are repeated. If you are in a big open area you are@#$%^&. IF you don't understand what he means don't rag onhim for it.so again your wrong.... as for stats not doing anything... you must not be a good PvPer... Blind lowers accuracy... and yeah it works.. not to noticable, but it does lower it... Stun lowers Action regen... again it is doing this.. not really noticable, but balanced... Dizzy makes it so you cant change postures... Learn your facts before you start trying to flame me... Learn MY facts??? He's talking about RESIST, not laying them on. Read before you respond. The RESIST Enhancer Column, as well as MDef's Resists, are not working properly.
I am just one of those people who thinks that Jedi is without a doubt the most messed up profession in the game, and has been for along time, and the last thing the profession needs is a Core who isnt prepared for the huge task infront of him... its my opinion.. not yours. Bac may not be prepared for dealing with his new task, but that remains to be seen. I for one would chose to wait to see if he can dig his way through the mess of SOE Cor.. We just don't know yet, but until he shows he can't he deserves a fair chance to.
Yes its working as intended. The Devs stated at FanFest that it is supposed to be a "showy" animation.
Chicken_Chaser wrote:
Not extremely important but:
Is the force meditate animation supposed to be like it currently is?
SayKin wrote:
Force Healer: They said they brought down force sap to the CM's level, but it isnt. Not even the improved is close to the CM Mind/Action debuffs, why is this?
Good questions but add this one.
Whatcan we expect in the next FRS?
Jediforcefighter wrote:
Good questions but add this one.
Whatcan we expect in the next FRS?
yeah ole George has had plenty of time to read it over, what gives.
WCjtace wrote:
Lost of things need to be fixed in all of Jedi, but don't forget powers either.
I have not forgotten about powers either. Lets just see if we can get some of these guestions answered. Then I will get another Focus Thread going.
This is mentioned as one of my questions is it not? Number 7 I believe.
Morlan wrote:
What about the suggestion for a Master/Apprentice relationship? will this be implemented as a part of the new FRS system?
Tamianx wrote:
Baciacca wrote:
3.Any chance that the Healing delays will be reduced or if not will heals in general be improved (ex. 4xxx Healer could give 2k heals instead of the 1.5k heals now); if so will this be in the FRS.
>>There is indication, not in the notes but from TC responses/parses, that Healing is down to a 4 sec delay.<<
Until I see a fix on live servers I will continue to ask and push for the reduction.
4.With regards to Jedi Cloak, will the following be fixed:
a.Jedi while on Force Cloak are /tar-able.
>>Fixed as per Pub 20 Patch Notes <<
Again until I see a fix on live servers I will continue to ask and push for the reduction.
d.Jedi are able to attack single and multiple targets while cloaked; combat spam will say nothing about what is happening because of this.
>>This is an 'Real Issue', the above two need to be fixed but surely cant be more pirority then other issues (MP, see below) on the table.
5.Jedi Discipline – Force Healer:
>>This issue should be number 2, right after fixing the abiltity to attack while cloaked <<
I did not list any of these in any particular order.
b.Also the xxx4 line of healer because Jedi very rarely worry about the effects of Poisons and Diseases let alone bleeds which do next to nothing worthwhile at the moment.
>>While states and such mean nothing, we really should wait and see as to what the Devs are implementing in that regard before asking for changes or removal of those skills <<
Im not asking for a fix here. Im only asking to see what the Devs have in mind for this tree in the healer discipline.
6.Jedi Discipline – Force Enhancer
a.The xx4x (resist buff) line in enhancer seems to be worthless due to the lack of state effects actually doing anything at the moment and also poison and disease resists seem to not work either.
>>See above .. why is this even an issue on the table right now? <<
Again im not asking for a fix here. Im only asking to see what the Devs have in mind for this tree in the healer discipline.
7.Any chance of a comment on the implementation of a Master/Padawan System?
>>Give this a rest ... there is no need for it without FRS and with the Group Vis system in place as of Pub 20 .. there are far bigger issues to address <<
You may not belive in this but to alot of other people this has the potential to add alot more content to the game we love to play, not to mention what it could do to the FRS system.
I pointed my fustration with your statements and priorities in this post here:
Baciacca wrote:
I like this idea.
memberg wrote:
This message follows a previous thread, In that thread the poster felt like his long accomplishment of pre9 jedi holo grind has been forgotten. Fellow jedi have gotten to unlock in a much shorter time. Reading the responces I came up with an AMMENDMENT to an idea posted there.
How about being reconized for your JEDI's age. Like veteran rewards for the oldest jedi? IE: the 1yr mark, the 2 yr mark, and THE OLDEST jedi on each server. These rewards might be a choice of a special robe, or colord crystal, or perfect tuned pearl. Any number of player rewards for the time put into being a jedi.
Some how I doubt the Devs would allow this because when asked about custom robes at fanfest they clearly stated: "That is what the FRS robes are for" but it cant hurt to ask.
This would be a very cool reward that im sure most would absolutly love to get. (Silver or Black would be some cools choices.)
This would probably be the most wanted reward if any and because of the current drop rates probably the most needed reward.
Not trying to be rude, but your job as a correspondent is to help liason the concerns and ideas of the complete (past, current, and future) population in regards to the profession. Further, as our representivite you 'unstated' duty is to find coheision between the population and help focus discussions to the postive. Making statements like the above really does not seem to fall in either of those categories and honestly the last thing that should be brought to the devs attention when there are enough issues on the table that need to be resolved.
Bluntly "This would probably be the most wanted reward if any and because of the current drop rates probably the most needed reward." is what triggered my post as what your saying with that is 'reward' older players with a perfect tuned pearl, of which they already have hadthe ability to obtain, when the current layer of players cant hope to even acheive one?
Lets stop focusing on the past, stop focusing on the changes that brought us here, and start focusing on the needs/changes/fixes/(insert whatever here) to address viablity/use of those trees that have outstanding concerns.
By that statement I was refering to the above list where I listed Pearls fix. I do realize that Force Powers is a concern for alot of people but so are pearls and without crystals/pearls how will people level through powers. I know that AOE lightning can be used BUT most people prefer to use 0020LS to level through the powers discipline, and to do that you need pearls and crystals.
Bluntly you need to stop 'pervceiving' what each tree's role is and project the concerns of those players as -they- see fit, not your top concerns. Next time you go to the devs I suggest you post the questions here and let > US < tell you what the priorities are. MPowers need some functional changes and you can see my suggestions in other posts .. take THOSE as a suggestion to the devs, not some if the lower priority bs you have listed.