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Thread: Time to Nerf 50K HAM Thugs?

Geddeo
Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:22 am
#53



Jadza wrote:
One thug I can handle - it when like 3 of them get on you it is impossible. I have no problem with the village being hard but when they knock you out so fast it goes beyond hard - it gets fustratingly difficult. And even when they are not they just take forever to kill. Perhaps reducing them to like 20K HAM would be more resonable - still prettty difficult but not as fustrating.
And yes i have full armor, buffs, brandy, etc etc so thats not the point!
Im sure i could change my template (Im master TKM/Medic) and make it easier for myself but thats not the point either. This is the result of discussions several players are having in the village not just me. These days there are only like 3-4 of us most of the time defending the village (on my server at least). We keep ducking in the huts for protection and can barely come out to fight. Its embarrasing and almost feels like we are using an exploit just to survive. The point is there are not enough people around to help with this quest anymore. Getting a large group together is easier said than done - and I'm in one of the largest guilds of all.
If the Devs reduce the number of thugs and/or reduce their HAM to something resonable then I'll be happy.

Message Edited by Jadza on 02-17-2005 10:44 PM





I'm not sure what times you go to the village, but from 4pm pacific standard time to about 11pm pacific standard time there are huge groups of people in the village this phase on our server. I've been hanging out there for the fun after I unlocked and have been tanking thugs and calling out pirate locations.

Every night there have been 3 or 4 doctors doing the quest rezing people who die even. My master Doc guildmate rezed one person 6 times 2 nights ago. I wasn't out there last night, but so far compared to the last phase4 there are more than enough people to help out in the village.

One piece of advice I can give you is stay out of the huts and instead use the gates. Walk out one of the gates and then head right or left for a few steps to get the thugs stuck on the wall away from the gates then head away from the village. This way you will also drag the thugs agroed on you away from the center of the village and out of range of the huts for other people. Know who the tanks are and the docs and when you find a thug or 2 you can't handle make sure you go to them so they notice you. If you have more than 2 thugs on you it would probably be better to lead them away from the group and do the wall trick though.

This phase may be a big pain for people who only want to trade in exp, but it is by far the best phase for challenge and gameplay (phase3 is pretty cool too, but phase1 and 2 are boring for the combat skills). I hope they don't nerf or change what I consider some of the best content in the game.
Greigann
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:00 am
#54






Jadza wrote:

The Sith Shadow NPCs that attack the village during phase 4 and are guarding the base during phase 3 are entirely too powerful. With full buffs a Pirate managed to incap me in one shot and then killed me barely 60 seconds into the village. The 50K HAM thugs take forever to kill even with a group of people. There simply arent enough players doing the village questsanymore to justify contiuning use of the overpowered NPCs. I suggest it is time to lower their difficulty level now.






No they shoudn't be nerfed, FS grinding is easy enough, it's too easy to become a Padawan, if u can't take take on a thug u shouldn't be a padawan.



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Cornflake2gs
Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:26 am
#55


LoL...this is hilarious.


I never said, nerf the thugs so that I can my jedi easy. Stop trolling and putting words in people's mouths.


All I am saying is, after making my way to the village for the first time...just to talk to the people (waited 30 minutes previous to find a doctor to buff me) to see what I needed to do, I find that the place is full of 50k HAM Thugs. Im thinking, this should be no problem. But when there are NO people around, and 5 of them aggro me, W TF am I supposed to do?


You say get a group? Well hey guess what...I cant force people to come down to the village. Not to mention I was one of the lucky ones who was able to find a doctor to get buffed to go there in the first place.


You say I need to keep them intimidated and taunt them and all that? Well hey guess what...I have solo'd all three corvettes. Im not even trying to brag. Im just saying I know how to play the game. I had my 88-89% PvE armor on (no psg due to PvP), and I go there, and I am taking hits for 200 dmg. What am I supposed to do. Nothing, except be mad that I essentially wasted nearly 50 minutes of my time on my first trip to the village.


In the famous words of Keith Sweat, "You got it twisted".



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KeevJaseri
Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:16 am
#56

I disagree. I have soloed a thug before and have gone to assist during the last two phase fours by tanking.

Granted I think anyone besides a Jedi who tries to tackle more than one at a time is gonna go down, but the mission isn't designed to solo. Neither are thugs.

There are some MOB's in-game that you just don't wanna tangle with these are one of them



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jesskill
Sun Feb 20, 2005 7:54 pm
#57



Namen_Xenomi wrote:
always crying nerf. OHHH I want my jedi to be EASY to get, I hate hard things. Nerf them and hand me my free force sensitive mods please. ugh....






/clap

this is like saying NERF KRAYTS HAM u get uber loot from thugs WORK FOR IT i got a belt with +18 in mods yesterday and a laser carbine with a 166 mind poison along with other good loots SOLO at the village for phase 4 on 2 TOONS 2 DIFFERENT TOONS i went alone one toon doesnt even have medic as was said above

FULL ARMOR

LEARN UR TEMPLATE



Im so much better than you
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you just goin to have to deal with it noob
LatexHomemaker
Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:02 pm
#58

i hate whiners, this guy is a master medic?? uh heal yerself dipsh*t go inside on of those huts they dont follow u in there


Im Mtka/grenader I had no problems killing these thugs pirates or outlaws..I find this the Best part of the village

I go there just to fight During this Phase after I already Unlocked.

The Prob is see u dont know how to play...You want everything handed to you...

your a lil whiney baby...
Jadza
Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:13 pm
#59







LatexHomemaker wrote:

i hate whiners, this guy is a master medic?? uh heal yerself dipsh*t go inside on of those huts they dont follow u in there


Im Mtka/grenader I had no problems killing these thugs pirates or outlaws..I find this the Best part of the village

I go there just to fight During this Phase after I already Unlocked.

The Prob is see u dont know how to play...You want everything handed to you...

your a lil whiney baby...






Please don't call me a whiner. I started this thread to gather opinions on what other people thought THAT IS ALL. This started as a result of a discussion I was having with other players in the village while we were doing the phase 4 quest. I was not trying to 'whine' and complain about anything - just wanted to gather input.


I love my template and I outlast most everyone during this phase. Im usually stillalive and well when everybody else has gone to the cloner. Thugs just take a ridiculously long time to kill (and I've never gotten anything useful off of them).


(As a female player I guess I will never understand why testosterone drives men to want to just hack away at something over and over againfor an absurd amount of time. )

Message Edited by Jadza on 03-07-2005 01:14 PM




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