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Thread: Force Sensitive Players MUST be rewarded/ compensated

Treemorr
Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:44 am
#27

I've been doing the FS village for about a year, to get the crafting mastery, and to get the skills from it to benefit my AS/WS char, and also to get my 2nd slot.


EVERYTHING I have done has now been a complete waste of time, as 1) The skills won't matter in the new AS/WS professions and 2) There is no way I'm going to finish the grind in time, as there isn't enough time to harvest enough resources, and don't have enough credits to buy all what I need. I need to craft 10706 moreX-34s to finish, which I reckon I could do if had enough resources which I don'tor craft 27373 Advanced Droid Frames, which I have enough resources but takes 2.5 times longer to do than X-34s


I alsopre-ordered the expansion on this account too, so my 2nd slot could have the skiff and bunker/flea. Being a AS/WS I have no use for a skiff. If I'd have known about the NGE beforehand, before Oct 25th,could have bought an extra account and preorderded the expansion on that.


I also read elsewhere that 2nd slot cause lag on servers, well I think thats a load of rubbish, as people buying more accounts causes more lag than letting people having 2nd slots, as 2 chars from same account can not be logged in at the same time. People who have 2+ accounts can have 2+ chars on at same time. I doubt this wouldn't have happened, if people were allowed 2 slots from the get go, it forced people to buy additional accounts. Also I don't see other MMORPGs having this issue.


SOE are just a bunch of lying s.o.b.s


If I can't get my 2nd slot, or benefit from from any of the current FS skills on crafting, or there ISN'T ANY FORM OF COMPENSATION FOR THIS TOO EARLY CHANGE, then my account is not renewing. If I had a few months then there would be some hope, but knowing SOE it won't happen, will have to my MMO kicks from WoW, and my Star Wars fun from SW:BF2 and KOTOR etc.



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No news is bad news, going by SOEs track record.

I suspect that Trader/Enteratiner will end up being worse off, and they're not saying anything, as people will quit because of it.

I'm going to quit when the sub runs out, and return if the revamps are worthwhile, unless knowledge of the revamps come before subs run out, and I like it, but I'm not going into day 1 of the new month, then the revamps get announced, and my char is shafted.
Seshemw
Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:55 am
#28



Skyyr wrote:

Why? No offense meant whatsoever, but you should've started sooner. If you're a new player, then you haven't invested the time to be considered an 'Elder.'

Look at it this way: would it be fair for a novice rifleman to respec to master rifleman just because he ran out of time? You haven't had to invest the time or effort that Jedi have to earn the reward. Again no offense, and not saying that you didn't attempt to get to Jedi, but you don't deserve the reward of a Jedi if you haven't completed the path.






Some of us have actually put in considerably more effort than many jedi.
29 professions pre-P8.
Somehow failed to get five 'free' unlocks for that.
Do the village quests to unlock like everyone else.
Grind xp like anyone else.

So, uh. Yeah. Bad on me for not grinding like crazy pre-CU. Bad on me for sticking to TK post-CU, finding I couldn't actually get xp at any reasonable rate, and going away for a while. Bad on me for coming back, re-getting mbh, re-getting mcommando, and grinding fs:reflexes xp.... to find out the FIRST NOTICE I had a time limit was less than 2 weeks before it would become impossible to complete.

P8/P9, and the CU, were horrible on people that were partway. I was there, it hit me in the teeth. THIS is different though. Unlike before, where you could, if you put your time into it, finish anyway... there will be no finishing after the publish. Those who finish before the change will have things those who do not CANNOT GET. No previous massive adjustment has had this issue.

If they handed out crystals and robes to every FS character, and 2nd character slots to EVERYONE (which, honestly, should be a requirement in a game where you're locked into a class period, unless you delete), I'd find it fine.And I have a sneaking suspicion I'd feel the same way if I'd gotten it on profession #6 way, way back when the christmas holocrons came out.



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00Arak00
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:37 am
#29


ya it kinda sucks, i have been around from the first week and only recently decided to become a jedi and have way to many boxes(over 10) to fill but at the end of the day i do not complain or demand compensation for a few reasons

for statersit is a game for entertainment. If you are not enjoying yourself while you "grind" then you are missing out there is more to see and do in the game that just gain xp, lvl up, look at me i am cool i spend 32 hours in non stop xp collection. silly me, i was only on for a few hours but me and my friends did some quests and said goofy things to stormtropers.


secondly, i am an earth and beyond survivor. I love the game, played it tons and what happened? what will happen to every online game eventualy... it will die and you will have to go on. if SWG ends tommorow do you expect to be compensated for your time? How? give you a lvl 50 char in EQ2? pay you cash damages? send a persolaized letter of appology from SOE prez and George lucas?


I am not saying that rewards for hard work are bad, just that it is a game.A second char slot would be fantastic but why stress overit so much? I would understat if there was one or maybe 2 posts over this issue but post after post with the same people demanding is just silly.


in conclusion for the longest of my less than 20 posts on the forums the whole time i have been a around

it is a game, have fun and if someone changes the rules, either adapt and continue the fun or if it is not fun anymore and becomes a chore you seem you HAVE to do... stop playing, stressing out over a game is silly.
ElSancho
Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:47 am
#30

They are doing us a favor. Jedi in the NGE is not the Jedi we all worked for. When you respec into your Jedi you will be GLAD you did not waste any more time than you did.



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HaloSpyder
Mon Nov 07, 2005 10:08 am
#31



ElSancho wrote:
They are doing us a favor. Jedi in the NGE is not the Jedi we all worked for. When you respec into your Jedi you will be GLAD you did not waste any more time than you did.




right, the jedi in the NGE are not the jedi we worked for. thats why most people are pissed off. glad we did not waste anymore time? they are literally turning months of work and subscription fees into a waste of time. We could have done much more with our time, if we had known what is about to happen.



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Aanu
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:47 pm
#32

Keep this alive.



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Atioto
Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:29 pm
#33






Aanu wrote:
Keep this alive.





I hear you, and agree with you 100%. I am beginning to become resigned to my fate now, though, and am starting to lose some of my fight.


-Atioto


ZeAo
Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:47 pm
#34

Haha. See what I mean? Those who call others noobs are only noobs themselves and are trying to draw attention away from themselves.
Jakkarus
Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:50 am
#35

/sign


I finished this horrible grind back in Aug. and I feel it is so wrong to shaft the players still working hard in this grind. You should get something for all that mind numbing work!






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Specter2k3
Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:04 am
#36

I also believe that every1 should be able to work up to elder status when so many noobs dont even deserve the status.....


So it's only fair that ever1 be able to work to elder status, hell i've lost 3 Jedi, i just got 1 back lol.





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perfavorebasta
Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:07 am
#37


The fact this is happening, just sucks.


All other major changes in the game, have had months of notice, why does this only get 10 days? About 3 months, like all other changes in game would have been fair, as the FS grind, as found out, isn't exactly a quick affair, and I've been playing game a lot more than a lot of people, and still doing the FS village, I unlocked all my skills about 2-3 cycles of the village ago, thats about 24-36 weeks ago, just been slowly getting the XP all this time, taking time out to do grinding, or giving up early as getting bored of grinding, as I thought we had forever, although had a horrible feeling something like this would happen, but not yet, and not out of the blue with a moments notice.If I knew about this 3 months ago that this was going to take place, I would have stuck at it, and finsihed it, and now if I don't finish in time, its all going to be for NOTHING. This is the mostcallous and evil thing that anyone has ever done, bar Sept 11th


That's what is disturbing me more than other. They were actually 3 months but they diodn't say this to us to sell more copies of the new expansion.


Why FS grinders should be rewarded? Because we are the core of the grinding process. I can't say how many noobs levelled up in groups thanks to the fact we lev80 were there to run the groups. We were there to do that job, not the crafters, not the core pvpers, not the jedi before the change of group-visibility. We had a big slap accross our face for this. Unapcettable!


I did the FS grinding with my jedi back with the solo groups. We moved the economy of the servers. We used buffs all the time, food/drinke, armor and weapons (back when the adk was far to be developed). Then I wanted to see the new and easy path of the village grinding in the CU. I managed to do this with a second toon. I got slapped at 33% of the work done. I am not complaining I want a jedi or an alt. I have them already.


More: we are left alone in the process due to the fact there is no FS correspondant. We had SonG and Baciacca as Jedi corresp, but they have their problems with jedi already. We are alone.


IMO we should be rewarded badly, not in cash, not in plaques but in substance. Let us complete the work. Make us the sole players that can have still access to the village. Let us do it.


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DarkJediDeen
Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:56 am
#38

FS grindersSHOULD be rewarded



....and I don't want a decoration as a rewarded either. I want something of value, maybe a robe and/orcrystal similar to those that will be given to jedis, but with slightly lower stats and DIFFERENT SKINS!





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ForgottenTalec
Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:46 pm
#39

I agree that all this sh*t that is currently happening is bull....I dont get why they are changing the whole system....I keep hearing that its for the new comers to have a better chance of becoming equals or to get more people in the game....Its weird because when I started up last Jan I didnt feel like the people who started before me had a better change of becoming rich....heck I became rich myself within 2 months of work....Also when I started I never felt like grinding the crap put of jedi because I thought I had the time....now hearing about this Upgrade (my bad Downgrade) it pissed me off b/c I only got one more box to unlock in Phase 4 and guess what it aint goin to happen...SOE should not do this new upgrade because it taking away all the diversity that it had over other MMORPG...now its reminds me of Diablo 2 were you pick one guy and your that one race and all that bull....I would like the current FS people to be able to finish their quest in the village, but instead of getting the jedi from it once to finish you get the special robe/crystal and blue thingy....why not do it that way....that at least gives everyone who wants the jedi perks it chance but then they still had to work just as hard as anyone esle to get them..............................



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