Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: Petition: Perma Death
The_Broken
Tue Feb 01, 2005 4:47 pm
#27
Ssoshiss wrote:Are you sick of going overt rebel through theed for a challenge, only to be slaughtered by about 6 jedi? I am! What about you imperials going into Coronet overt, light jedi crawling under your skin over and over again.Well if your sick of it like I am /sign here. Hopefully the dev's actually read this petition.This will bring back the good ol' days, remember the holo grind? Jedi didn't dare wear robes or have a lightsaber equipped because it increased visible, and they only had 3 deaths. After that they were completely 100% dead, start a jedi over. All it took was 1 single death./sign
Umm... When there was permadeath, there were no robes. They didn't exist. And jedi would not be seen without composite armor on then anyway.
But yes, we really need permadeath back. I would put money on it that, if permadeath came back, any jedi that logged and left his safehouse on Chilastra would be done within a week.
kiev
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:23 pm
#28
a better idea would be to say make a jedi knight lose a skill box on a death, but losing your entire template is a bit harsh
CaielG
Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:46 pm
#29
I agree with many here... I think this perma-deatha nd losing there entire tmeplate is harsh.
There should be more punishment for the Jedis... but not permanent death. One day I hope to be a jedi like many here... perma-death is discouraging but I can handle certain punishments. I think Galen should start her own petition as I would definenly sign hers.
There should be more punishment for the Jedis... but not permanent death. One day I hope to be a jedi like many here... perma-death is discouraging but I can handle certain punishments. I think Galen should start her own petition as I would definenly sign hers.
Ssoshiss
Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:53 pm
#30
First off by perma death i didn't mean you had to start the grind over, just from padawan up as a new character. Like the old system.
It would be way harsh to make them regrind it. That many badges and hours of dedication and ammount of xp for just 6 branches. Harsh.
Heard up there i should stop whining and work.
A)I am working on jedi.
B) I'd still start this if i did have a jedi.
Also i would welcome a perma death for all other professions, I don't care. Not like it'd really kill me to start over, swordsman is a walk in the park.
So is TKM.
As for the comp crashing that's what the first 3 deaths are for, if you were around when perma death was you wouldn't be so against it.
Also for the record I don't go overt through theed but 9 million jedi jumping on something is like the equivelant of a krayt dragon jumping onto a freaking kreetle.
Also I'm not a jedi hater, if i was i wouldn't have wasted my time collecting badges. I'm not hip cuz I bash jedi, I'm not hip. And starting with Swordsman/TKM/Pikeman would be awesome, bring on the Perma Death. Would go perfectly with the new CU coming soon!
Message Edited by Ssoshiss on 02-01-2005 08:08 PM
Message Edited by Ssoshiss on 02-01-2005 08:09 PM
emovamalla
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:16 pm
#31
/nosign
Permadeath is WAY too harsh considering how virtually any jedi can be ganked at almost any given time with the right group.
In some of CU notes, they HAVE hinted towards the fact that regular people will get new forms of death penalties implemented. If there is any sort of permadeath skill loss for "normal folk", I'm sure 99.99% of the people withoutjedi now who are signing this will be crying on the first day it hits. I can hear it now...
Imagine if you play the game for 2000 hours to get to where you are only to get it wiped out from a gank or LD... GET REAL!!! A potential loss of skill for a knight if the dip into negative xp might be appropriate, otherwise just get real people.
The current negative xp system per death for padawans is a good system. With all of the reduced shuttle time, uber buffs & food, it is a wonder that the BH's aren't just having a field day w/ increased Jedi population... I mean... it is the game's job to be self supportive in all ways. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE JEDI POPULATION, BECOME A BOUNTY HUNTER.
Namen_Xenomi
Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:48 pm
#32
seline wrote:
Namen_Xenomi wrote:
must be rough to not have your jedi. cry cry cry some more. maybe you should work like we did THEN complain.
Sorry, but shut up, while you were waiting for next phase of village, I was swinging the weapon that makes you think you are overgod
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=610961&page=14
I still miss the old system -as a jedi- it was more challanging, but no, last system before publish 9 was good, after 3 deaths, you loose skill boxes if you die within next 7 days which also more "showboat-free" servers like your kind...
Message Edited by seline on 02-01-2005 08:35 AM
i unlocked in january of 2004, so dont assume anything about me. I did the permadeath thing, i did the skill loss thing. i did armor and glowbats. The old system sucked. Permadeath isnt a solution, but the saber tef is 100%. SWG is far to buggy and unstable for a 3 death system to be effective and you know it.
Too many jedi are far to cocky and that would keep them in check.
Entropism
Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:59 pm
#33
I'd love to see permadeath IF, and only if, the jedi grind was a LOT easier. Like Jedi XP was 1/3 of regular XP, not 1/10, and the skill boxes were double the "elite combat" profession XP.
Like 300K for the first, 500K for the second, 700K for the third, and 800K for the 4th box in a tier, and the average hurrton stalker would give you 1500XP. Harder targets (and not worth grinding on, like Nyax) could scale up to 5000XP per kill. It's still a nasty grind, but not months-long-glued-to-the-game nasty. Give the jedi 5 deaths PERIOD, no timers, and if those 5 are used, then he starts from padawan all over again, probably taking about a month for him to restore what he had beforehand.
Like 300K for the first, 500K for the second, 700K for the third, and 800K for the 4th box in a tier, and the average hurrton stalker would give you 1500XP. Harder targets (and not worth grinding on, like Nyax) could scale up to 5000XP per kill. It's still a nasty grind, but not months-long-glued-to-the-game nasty. Give the jedi 5 deaths PERIOD, no timers, and if those 5 are used, then he starts from padawan all over again, probably taking about a month for him to restore what he had beforehand.
thepulse
Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:16 am
#34
fine bring it back but when! but whenanyone dies 5 times in pvp they loose there char and must regrind marksman brawler or whateverbut now your skill points needed for skill has doubled the sounds fair and like the game he wants to play no pvp no bh's and jedi hiding in the closet..
Jessian
Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:26 am
#35
it would be better to have a system where, if the jedi died 3 times in a given week, then they could not wear robes equip ls, this way, it doesnt penalise the majority of the jedi players that probably do roleplay their character.
what i would like to see, is the devs, using Darth Vader to go around the galaxy, touching down near GROUPS of jedi knights AND dark jedi knights, and fighting them all. then, they are frozen out for a week.
this way they keep their leet swinging jedi.
to be honest though, SWG will never be the same until jedi are removed from the current PVP and GCW
keep jedi fighting jedi. PERIOD. much bigger penalties must be aimed at high level jedi in keeping them from becoming Masters.
what i would like to see, is the devs, using Darth Vader to go around the galaxy, touching down near GROUPS of jedi knights AND dark jedi knights, and fighting them all. then, they are frozen out for a week.
this way they keep their leet swinging jedi.
to be honest though, SWG will never be the same until jedi are removed from the current PVP and GCW
keep jedi fighting jedi. PERIOD. much bigger penalties must be aimed at high level jedi in keeping them from becoming Masters.
SadisticSavior
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:01 am
#36
No.
Considering how unbelievably tedious it seems to be to get a Jedi at all...this is too harsh. Maybe pile on the XP debt or start taking away abilities temporarily (they'd have to be re-earned and re-bought). Somthing like that. Perma-death is way too harsh.
JBrad95706
Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:15 am
#37
I hate people like this....
He's not worried about what ever profession he is.
He is not saying hey, my profession needs to be fixed or anything constructive.
It's NERF this NERF that, take the fun out of the game for someone else.
Do I think we see to many Jedi ? Yes.
Do I think there are to many Jedi ? No.
The system needs to be fixed and there working on it, but crap like this does nothing for anyone.
KhaemirSarin
Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:55 pm
#38
It is in fact only a few jedi that are doing this. Whenever I see it happening it is the same group of 4-5 jedi knights that are looking for some FRS. To penalize the whole community of jedi (who worked very hard for what they have) for the actions of a few is a bad idea.
No I don't have my jedi yet. I'm still one phase and about 4 million fsxp away from padawan. I just can't stand to chuck another thermal detonator so I took a little break and worked up another character on a different server.