Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: It's not the # of Jedi it's the fact that we're forced to see them
Cebre_Opasloa wrote:
On one hand, you have a lot of people unhappy that Jedi seem to be acting in such an open and overt manner spitting in the face of what little controls there are, BHs/visibility, scans, hostile NPCs. You know, the people who complain about the leagues of Jedi waving the lightsabers around and flaunting powers in front of all the major starports.
BobbyBrujo wrote:
heh, I am getting tired about these "bring saber tef" or "bring perma death" back posts
jedi already had permadeath, jedi already had saber tef, it's changed, they removed them for a reason and they probably won't be coming back
that's really all I have to say....I mean... it's kind of ridiculous to add saber tef's now because of the fact that new jedi are pretty much forced to group, and aoe groups would become such a mess.... i'm sure there will be a lot of high level jedi out there grieifing people in aoe hunting groups
i wish i could have taken advantage of saber tef back when i unlocked, you could get a lot of those afk campers killed cus of saber tef
oh well, just my 2 cents
Perma-death is well and truly dead, and it's a good thing. Server lag issues made inadvertent perma-death a real possibility and too penal a punishment. Great in theory with perfect servers and internet connections, terrible in practice.
Saber-TEF is open IMHO to far too much griefing to be a good option either.
Other options have been presented though which could improve things without the return of saber TEF or perma-death if SOE wanted to.
Cebre_Opasloa wrote:
Sorry, but I can't agree here. It IS showing off...
If visibility is what the Jedi are after, then perhaps going and attacking some bases' NPCs...
As for my Jedi, he's never even gotten on the terminals, and the only time I've used my powers in a starport was because I got attacked by an NPC thug (high negative thug faction points will do that...lol). But then I play my Jedi as a timeline appropriate Jedi, you know, the "crazy old hermit" hiding from the Empire type of character. I've always operated as if Order 66 mattered, even if the game doesn't enforce it.
Dakarn wrote:
Cebre_Opasloa wrote:
Sorry, but I can't agree here. It IS showing off...
If visibility is what the Jedi are after, then perhaps going and attacking some bases' NPCs...
As for my Jedi, he's never even gotten on the terminals, and the only time I've used my powers in a starport was because I got attacked by an NPC thug (high negative thug faction points will do that...lol). But then I play my Jedi as a timeline appropriate Jedi, you know, the "crazy old hermit" hiding from the Empire type of character. I've always operated as if Order 66 mattered, even if the game doesn't enforce it.
Well, "showing off" or whatever you want to call it, is still easier than running around planets looking for random spawns of Factional NPCs or running off to bases to kill mobs.
As for the way you play your jedi.. great! RP your Jedi the way you want to, but that still doesn't give you any right to tell others how they should play their's.
I don't, and I can't.
That being said, this IS the age of the Empire not the Republic. The Jedi are supposed to be hunted enemies of the Empire. The Devs' designs for the Jedi system consistently acknowledge this with every change they've made. The GCW changes made fairly recently included plans for scans by the NPCs in major cities that could result in a major attack on a discovered Jedi. Yet in practice, Jedi are still able to stand in front of starports using their powers and sabers at will with no action at all by the NPCs.
It's not that I'm trying to tell players how to play their toons. It's that I want SOE to create a system that actually lives up to their design plans, that encourages Jedi players to keep a low profile. If players want to buck the system and take their chances anyway, fine by me. I just want to see some meaningful RISK for those players who do.
And of course shaowing off is easier than going off to bases. That's exactly why they do it, because it is easier. The real question is, SHOULD it be easier and without real risk?