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Thread: You've got to be kidding...

quitch
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:55 pm
#14






QuietBlade wrote:


dude, do you really think that they are going to leave it as padawan is the highest rank you can get?...NO...I flamed (not the person but the message content) because people have no patience anymore. We live in a microwave society where whatever we want we can get at the push of a button. Noone cooks with crockpots anymore.... cook it for 18 hours and it comes out awesome. (just an analogy).... Just relax, FRS will come back at some point.... Personally I think you are a little foolish to look at FRS when you still have to kill 23 gazillion Bols and Pikets. You are putting the cart before the horse.



and as far as your comment that you defeated knights.....that is incirrect.... since FRS has gone offline there are no knights, guardians or masters.... True some have the title.....(they were allowed to keep the title under the old system) but they have no bonuses that would normally come with the rank. So, if you defeated some Jedi, they were all padawans.



and finally, as to my comment on learning how the game is run..... Did you learn to drive saying who runs this vehicle?....who is in charge?....etc....no. You had to learn how the vehicle worked.....you did not just get in and BAM! were a nascar driver....you had to learn the little details that made the vehicle run (or maybe a better word is perameters) You have to learn what you can and cant do in the game. Believe it or not,....there is alot of detail in hunting animals in their liars. Did you know that if you stand 55 meters or closer to a Krayt dragon while attacking it, it will regen its health...(you probably knew that)....but did you know that if you are 56 meters or farther out it will not. and the closer you get to the creature the faster it will regen?....did you know that if you drag a monster approx 250 meters away from its spawn point it will retreat? It is things like that that I said you need to learn....not the "this is the way the devs operate this game"...... But oh well.....so many lack the patience to hear such things.... I guess ignorance truly is bliss











QFE


you did not beat or fight any knights or masters, they dont exist ATM


by the time you get jedi, either the FRS will be on, or will be turned on really soon, you shouldnt care now.


i couldnt have said it better. there are so many little things to know about the game.


for pvp, do you use LOS (if you know what LOS is... line of sight) to help you? do you know which are the best foods and which can stack? which spices are best for healers, and best for non healers? how armor can be sliced?


even though you may knnow some of them, its the fact there are so many little things that 3 months cant really teach





-who lightdust
QuietBlade
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:59 pm
#15

very true..... but remember there is a conversion rate for the crafting XP too......Do you have any idea how many swoops that is???? roflao , but really makes me want to cry......lol







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NACHODEWI
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:02 pm
#16

Another day another whiny noob starting a whining thread.



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TheAmorphist
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:03 pm
#17

Blade, how hard would it have been to be like convenial about things the first time?


And yes, I had known the FRS was gone, and while I had killed those with the title "Jedi Knight", I did NOT realize they didn't get the perks that came with being a knight.


Quitch, you can't just assume people don't know things...especially things like LOS...whats next, AOE? Going to accuseme of not knowing that? You pick up a lot in three months when you're in a guild of experiances members willing to help every chance they get.
QuietBlade
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:09 pm
#18

dude, we are not harping on you because you have been here 3 months.... we are harping on you because you have been here 3 months and think that you are intitled to something that no one else should have. you are not the first to do this grind, and you will not be the last. but you complain about it as if you have dealt with it for the years that some (not I) have spent here. Calm down, relax, get ready to commit genocide on pikets and bols and take a prozac. because they have been planning on (correcting) group XP and I think they did it with the publish today.... so now instead of slaughtering 23 gazillion bols and pikets....you now have to kill 45 gazillion. Happy hunting and thank you for playing Star Wars Galaxies.










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quitch
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:09 pm
#19






TheAmorphist wrote:
Quitch, you can't just assume people don't know things...especially things like LOS...whats next, AOE? Going to accuseme of not knowing that? You pick up a lot in three months when you're in a guild of experiances members willing to help every chance they get.









quitch wrote:


for pvp, do you use LOS (if you know what LOS is... line of sight) to help you? do you know which are the best foods and which can stack? which spices are best for healers, and best for non healers? how armor can be sliced?


even though you may know some of them, its the fact there are so many little things that 3 months cant really teach






read again




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quitch
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:13 pm
#20






QuietBlade wrote:

dude, we are not harping on you because you have been here 3 months.... we are harping on you because you have been here 3 months and think that you are intitled to something that no one else should have. you are not the first to do this grind, and you will not be the last. but you complain about it as if you have dealt with it for the years that some (not I) have spent here. Calm down, relax, get ready to commit genocide on pikets and bols and take a prozac. because they have been planning on (correcting) group XP and I think they did it with the publish today.... so now instead of slaughtering 23 gazillion bols and pikets....you now have to kill 45 gazillion. Happy hunting and thank you for playing Star Wars Galaxies.








you get more xp with this publish, but true. you arent the only one doing the grind, not the only one who has done it. other people have done it. it is just that you think you know so much and are entitled to so much.



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thebunny0904
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:22 pm
#21






GrimzKeeper wrote:

It does take 15 weeks min (for the die hard Power Gamer) to finish the village min.





Not to nitpick, but it's technically13.5 weeks minimum, if you start on the last day of a phase and then finish on the first day of a phase. (4 phases * 3 weeks + 1 day for first phase + 1 day for last phase +9 extra days since the servers don't reset every night). Of course, that's assuming you start at the right time and can bank all your XP in that time... 25-30 weeks is probably a more realistic goal.


Anyway, to the original poster... The 3 week phases are not meant to make the path to Jedi hard, they're meant to draw out the process so that a powergrinder will still take n number of weeks to finish. As for the grind, it's much easier/cheaper to implement development-wise than a quest-based system, and I suppose in some sense it's difficult (only because a lot of people lack the patience to go through it). As for FRS, it was taken out for good reasons. Last I heard, they had submitted the new FRS idea to LA for approval and were waiting for a response. I think it's safe to assume that FRS will be back by the time you are a full-templated Jedi.


Ideally,the whole FS systemwould be more quest-based, but the system is what it is. If you really want to play a Jedi, suck it up and get it done. If you don't think it's worth it, there are a ton of other things to do in this game other than just BH and Jedi. Give something else a try and see if you enjoy it.

TheAmorphist
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:24 pm
#22

Go read my original post again. Nowhere did I claim I was entitled to anything, not that I knew so much. I merely shared my experiance, and the thoughts that ran through my head when I came to realize what the FS grind is. Nothing more, nothing less.
thebunny0904
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:29 pm
#23






QuietBlade wrote:


and as far as your comment that you defeated knights.....that is incirrect.... since FRS has gone offline there are no knights, guardians or masters.... True some have the title.....(they were allowed to keep the title under the old system) but they have no bonuses that would normally come with the rank. So, if you defeated some Jedi, they were all padawans.





Is this really correct? The only reason I ask is that I was watching a duel one night on my server between a Jedi Master and someone else. I clicked on the Jedi Master because I was curious what foods/buffs/powers/etc. he was using. I happened to notice that he had over 5000 health, even though he had absolutely no buffs and no foods. I assumed it was because he was a Master.
GrimzKeeper
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:33 pm
#24






thebunny0904 wrote:





QuietBlade wrote:


and as far as your comment that you defeated knights.....that is incirrect.... since FRS has gone offline there are no knights, guardians or masters.... True some have the title.....(they were allowed to keep the title under the old system) but they have no bonuses that would normally come with the rank. So, if you defeated some Jedi, they were all padawans.





Is this really correct? The only reason I ask is that I was watching a duel one night on my server between a Jedi Master and someone else. I clicked on the Jedi Master because I was curious what foods/buffs/powers/etc. he was using. I happened to notice that he had over 5000 health, even though he had absolutely no buffs and no foods. I assumed it was because he was a Master.





Health Buff Crystal gives 2000 health bonus. He was prob using that.




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QuietBlade
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:34 pm
#25

your original post says that you havent done any SWG bashing, but sounds like you are about to. In order to bash SWG you must first know what the hell you are talking about, which you claim you do (according to your original post). You question why you pay $15 /month for this game. and what is this fun Jedi related content you speak of?.... the last FRS system was a total exploit called "fight clubbing"..... and simple math will tell you that 6 phases at 3 weeks per phase is a total of 18 not 25 weeks. true you can finish it sooner depending on when you start, but.....if you decide to pick and choose certain trees to go up, then yes it can take a longer amount of time, BUT...... that is your decision. Your free will. You say that Gizmos' idea of FRS sounds fun but it is just a thread.....how do you know.. For all any of us know that could be the one they are sending to LA for approval. Here is the point..... You talk and talk and talk.....and whine and whine and whine.......you do not know what you are talking about and thus should keep your ignorant comments for something else.








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TheAmorphist
Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:35 pm
#26

Since we're all on the topic of me not knowing things, why don't you help me out.

I've looked at the Force Progression chart in game, and see that it basically gives you titles, but do any added perks come with that? I mean, I know people have been "Full Temped" that have vaped me, but they're not techincally masters, since you can't be one...so the real question is...does the FRS even do anything?
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