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Thread: bad news patch 21 coming tuesday

Hatai
Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:35 am
#14

Its just really unfair to the people that dont use grenades. Hell, I got so sick of it and realized patch is tuesday, so i just tried nades. They suck anyway, causes too much aggro. I threw 3 grenades, and then destroyed mine. They should just give heavy weapons exp, and buff the hell out of grenades so they are useful, but dont change our conversion rates. Whats next? 60:1?
Jedi244
Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:37 pm
#15

Has it benn announced as being part of publish 21? Because otherwise I doubt its going live. The devs know they would lose alot of people just with this change alone, but doing it without even announcing it ahead of time? Thats suicide.
jahlad
Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:13 pm
#16

ive long since finished my fs grind but thought id post anyway....i did half of my grind pre cu using the old naid technique and slaugtered a bucket load of baz nitches in the process and damn was it BORING!!!!

then when the cu kicked in i found that naids just got me and quite ofteren the group i was with killed! myself and a few of my guild came up with the best template for grinding force sencitive exp at the moment. we decided that the more types of exp we could cap decent amounts of before the drive to the village the better so we needed a combination of profesions that allowed this......my old template of master tk and commando 4xxx was dumped and i switched to master bounty hunter and commando x4xx.

doing this will allow you to cap at 900k each in pistols/carbs/rifles as well as 1.2mill heavy weap exp and what ever combat you pick up on the way. if you want to slightly boost your combat exp pick up you can still lob a grenade or 2 in there as well but you WILL agro the whole group. off the top of my head i seem to recall capping all 4 weap types in under an hour and each fs branch taking 4 or 5 trips to the village, easily done inbetween phases (my math may be off here)


also another idea....when myself and my friends finished off our grind we were using the single pull technique that everyone seemed to pick up after the cu......now that we are jedi we have completly dumped that in favour of a whole group doing area attacks....it takes down more mobs/npcs in a lot less time, and a resonably priced krayt weapon will easily do more damage than 90% of jedis sabers....perhaps if you grind with a group of friends it may be worth testing this with ranged weapons ....i hanvt tried it but i figure 8 people spamming area or cone attacks at a lair are going to do a lot of damage and pritty fast! an area kd or area root or snare would be the job i think. just make sure someone at least has some combat medic or wearing a rez arm just in case and you should be golden!


hope some of this helps



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Naaga
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:32 pm
#17

i grinded out5 trees refusing to use the nade exploit. After hearing the news about the conversion change, bought some nades, grinded out my last tree in 2 days. 900k combat xp max for BH using C-12 nades and letting other people kill is by far the fastest and most effective way to grind. But you become a sink on the team, you just have to be smart with your nades. By being smart i mean dont go tossing nades when there is a bunch of mobs around, wait till your down to your last 2 or 3, toss a nade, rinse repeat until you cap combat.


Though this change is a huge blow to the reflex and combat xp grinders, i think they should begin to consider an alternative method. 1 word. Ranger. Scouting xp gives a good 8-1 conversion rate, and is easy to cap, especially when you have a group AOE pikets, it adds up quite fast.


Just a thought to consider for those of you who are going to be affected by this change. And best of luck with your grind.



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DoreanGrae
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:36 pm
#18






Naaga wrote:

i grinded out5 trees refusing to use the nade exploit. After hearing the news about the conversion change, bought some nades, grinded out my last tree in 2 days. 900k combat xp max for BH using C-12 nades and letting other people kill is by far the fastest and most effective way to grind. But you become a sink on the team, you just have to be smart with your nades. By being smart i mean dont go tossing nades when there is a bunch of mobs around, wait till your down to your last 2 or 3, toss a nade, rinse repeat until you cap combat.


Though this change is a huge blow to the reflex and combat xp grinders, i think they should begin to consider an alternative method. 1 word. Ranger. Scouting xp gives a good 8-1 conversion rate, and is easy to cap, especially when you have a group AOE pikets, it adds up quite fast.


Just a thought to consider for those of you who are going to be affected by this change. And best of luck with your grind.






Not to flame or anything, but I feel this has to be said:



You are aware that you are the reason the rest of us are getting screwed, right? Those of us who didn't exploit are getting our grind time doubled because you felt the need to do this.





Dorean Grae, Follower of the Force

Jerso Shard, Rebel Commander

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I support removing Jedi from the game rather than leaving them as represented in NGE

December 7, 2005: The Day SOE loses another customer
HavykOusrik
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:37 pm
#19






CaptainStormy wrote:
extended grinding time is not content.




I was talking about the "people who develope this game making it harder and harder".



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ElfDruid
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:44 pm
#20



HavykOusrik wrote:


CaptainStormy wrote:
extended grinding time is not content.


I was talking about the "people who develope this game making it harder and harder".





But, wait...didn't you also post that they "opened the Jedi flood gates, now deal with it?" Isn't that, in essence, what they are doing with the new conversion rate?




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Naaga
Sun Jul 31, 2005 6:54 pm
#21






DoreanGrae wrote:





Naaga wrote:

i grinded out5 trees refusing to use the nade exploit. After hearing the news about the conversion change, bought some nades, grinded out my last tree in 2 days. 900k combat xp max for BH using C-12 nades and letting other people kill is by far the fastest and most effective way to grind. But you become a sink on the team, you just have to be smart with your nades. By being smart i mean dont go tossing nades when there is a bunch of mobs around, wait till your down to your last 2 or 3, toss a nade, rinse repeat until you cap combat.


Though this change is a huge blow to the reflex and combat xp grinders, i think they should begin to consider an alternative method. 1 word. Ranger. Scouting xp gives a good 8-1 conversion rate, and is easy to cap, especially when you have a group AOE pikets, it adds up quite fast.


Just a thought to consider for those of you who are going to be affected by this change. And best of luck with your grind.






Not to flame or anything, but I feel this has to be said:



You are aware that you are the reason the rest of us are getting screwed, right? Those of us who didn't exploit are getting our grind time doubled because you felt the need to do this.






lol did you even read my post? i avoided nading until i realized i had less than a week to grind out my last tree before they bring out the nerf bat. I didnt touch a nade before i heard of the conversion change. Now you tell me how i am doubling your grind time. You have the current jedi to thank for that, not me, someone who is just trying to get as much as possible before they nerf FS to hell.




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Clicky Sadow -Mon Cal Commando - Trigger Happy SOB
Warden' Sadow - Master Merchant - Master Armorsmith
Sadow Resources and Rare Loots -339 2771 Dantooine
DoreanGrae
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:03 pm
#22






Naaga wrote:





DoreanGrae wrote:





Naaga wrote:

i grinded out5 trees refusing to use the nade exploit. After hearing the news about the conversion change, bought some nades, grinded out my last tree in 2 days. 900k combat xp max for BH using C-12 nades and letting other people kill is by far the fastest and most effective way to grind. But you become a sink on the team, you just have to be smart with your nades. By being smart i mean dont go tossing nades when there is a bunch of mobs around, wait till your down to your last 2 or 3, toss a nade, rinse repeat until you cap combat.


Though this change is a huge blow to the reflex and combat xp grinders, i think they should begin to consider an alternative method. 1 word. Ranger. Scouting xp gives a good 8-1 conversion rate, and is easy to cap, especially when you have a group AOE pikets, it adds up quite fast.


Just a thought to consider for those of you who are going to be affected by this change. And best of luck with your grind.






Not to flame or anything, but I feel this has to be said:



You are aware that you are the reason the rest of us are getting screwed, right? Those of us who didn't exploit are getting our grind time doubled because you felt the need to do this.






lol did you even read my post? i avoided nading until i realized i had less than a week to grind out my last tree before they bring out the nerf bat. I didnt touch a nade before i heard of the conversion change. Now you tell me how i am doubling your grind time. You have the current jedi to thank for that, not me, someone who is just trying to get as much as possible before they nerf FS to hell.






My apologies. I mis-read the first sentence of your post. Somehow I didn't see "refusing to."



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Jerso Shard, Rebel Commander

"A Jedi's strength flows from the Force, but beware the Dark Side. Anger, fear, aggression, the Dark Side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. Once you start down the Dark Path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Consume you it will."

I support removing Jedi from the game rather than leaving them as represented in NGE

December 7, 2005: The Day SOE loses another customer
NeoDragonclaw
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:29 pm
#23


Its the great mantra of SOE, time is content
drbeagle
Sun Jul 31, 2005 7:42 pm
#24

I sense much hatred in this thread.



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Hatai
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:05 pm
#25

I'm trying to pump out all the exp I can in the next 2 days, the way i see it, every hour i grind now, is an hour later i dont grind. 0_o...
HavykOusrik
Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:06 pm
#26






ElfDruid wrote:





HavykOusrik wrote:





CaptainStormy wrote:
extended grinding time is not content.




I was talking about the "people who develope this game making it harder and harder".







But, wait...didn't you also post that they "opened the Jedi flood gates, now deal with it?" Isn't that, in essence, what they are doing with the new conversion rate?





WTH are you smoking? I never said anything about "opening the Jedi flood gates, now deal with it".


Though, how is making the conversion rate WORSE making it easier for Jedi? Hmm, 3:1 or 30:1...


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