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Thread: Petition to make the New Slot Jedi and the old slot Non-Jedi

BarqsRootbeer
Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:43 pm
#14

with the currentjedi unlocking processitwould just be a pain in the butt to have your 2nd character unlocked as a jedi.
JediForceSeeker
Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:46 pm
#15

A I said earlier, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and that only some people will lke this idea, some actually despise this idea, its just out of my opinion that i want to make my 2nd slot a Jedi, and from the looks im the only one so far




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hawkbat37
Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:47 pm
#16

Don't know about all the other opinions, but tbh, I can't see takiing a naked toon (no skills whatsoever) through the initial Jedi grind, ie nov ls, first couple ls boxes etc. With the way mobs dmg up no adays, I am so glad I have my tkm/master swords defenses to fall back on. I would hate to think of getting on the terms and have a BH come after me with no reg prof defenses or that TKM to fall back on for hope of survival.




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Physkoris
Sun Jan 30, 2005 4:51 pm
#17






hawkbat37 wrote:

Don't know about all the other opinions, but tbh, I can't see takiing a naked toon (no skills whatsoever) through the initial Jedi grind, ie nov ls, first couple ls boxes etc. With the way mobs dmg up no adays, I am so glad I have my tkm/master swords defenses to fall back on. I would hate to think of getting on the terms and have a BH come after me with no reg prof defenses or that TKM to fall back on for hope of survival.






Well said. With Jedi unable to wear armor and do damage they would get rocked by even the weakest mobs. The initial 20k novice LS grind would be even worse.









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JediForceSeeker
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:01 pm
#18

Yeah, i agree with you, or i would like to change my name/looks, i dont really like the way i have it. And i know some people out there dont want Wookiee's as Jedi, or w/e species they have.




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ToppDog
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:06 pm
#19






Physkoris wrote:

Someone explain why it would make sense that after going through the Village with your main character, your new character would be the Jedi.





First of all, I'm not flaming you... &yourreasoning above would be perfectly logical if the game had started out with the village in place. My point is that the whole village concept & the Jedi revamp did not exist until a full year into the game.


Until that point we were told that our mains COULD NOT become Jedi & we would have to save our Jedi ideas for later when we opened the second slot. Well, many of us did just that, & created other characters that we never wanted to become Jedi as our mains. Now that SOE did a complete flip flop, those people who were waiting on getting the 2nd slot to use for their Jedi got screwed.


Not only did they get screwed that time, but again when they decided that the slot would not be opened at becoming FS, but after becoming a full Padawan, & yet gain when SOE quietly decided to take back their promise to allow Padawan & any or all FS skills to be dropped once the second slot was opened so the main could be reverted back to a prior non-FS template.


The analogy I made is dead on if you think of us being Lucas & the Hollywood producer being SOE. In both cases the players & Lucas had specific ideas for their Jedi character... & in both cases someone with the powers to change the rules(SOE& Hollywood exec) did so without allowing the players or Lucas to edit & revise their character ideas. So, in the same way that weareforced to make ourmains as Padawans if we wanta Jedi, Lucas would have been stuck with Vader saying "Random guy No. 4... I am your father!"

Theonlyfox
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:08 pm
#20






Adoraz wrote:
/disaggree

Besides the fact you miss out on the nice FS bonus' gained from the grind, it creates problems with continuity etc. Besides, I want my alt to help my main with Jedi stuff, not the other way around





And there in lies the death of the game. Rather than making a second character that supports the overall community or contributes, people are making jedi support characters with their extra slots. Just one more reason to bring back permadeath.



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ToppDog
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:09 pm
#21






BarqsRootbeer wrote:

with the currentjedi unlocking processitwould just be a pain in the butt to have your 2nd character unlocked as a jedi.




Which is precisely why it was changed to be like this... yet it was still something a lot of roleplayers were willing to do as long as they could revert their main back to normal in the end.

JediForceSeeker
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:15 pm
#22

Yeah, thats the point i was trying to get over, thanks ToppDog. For new people post-publish 9, its not a problem, but for Prepublish, we might have gotten our hopes up, and were discouraged by the Slot flip




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hawkbat37
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:15 pm
#23






JediForceSeeker wrote:

Yeah, i agree with you, or i would like to change my name/looks, i dont really like the way i have it. And i know some people out there dont want Wookiee's as Jedi, or w/e species they have.






Don't know about a species change but it would be nice if, when you complete the last trial, you were given the option to change your name and/or move your new Jedi's name to the 2nd slot and pick a new one for your Jedi. And as far as looks go, I plan on hitting a ID sometime this week.




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ToppDog
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:22 pm
#24

Personally I would simply be happy if we opened the 2nd slot at becoming FS & started making a Jedi from scratch with the new slot. I never liked the idea of opening an insta-Jedi as it was before publish 9.


The main thing I dislike now is that they have extended getting the second slot until after reaching Padawan, & then making it so you can never drop it. I would be perfectly willing to do the extra work to start a noob char from scratch & make him go through all the steps necessary to become a Jedi... it's immersive & makes good sense. But on the other hand, I want that same level of immersiveness & good sense when it comes to dropping Padawan & the FS skills from my main... there are countless instances in SW where chars have given up their desire to become a Jedi & eventually lost their ability to use the force. This is what needs to be done to make things fair if the current system is going to be kept in place.
Physkoris
Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:56 pm
#25






ToppDog wrote:

The analogy I made is dead on if you think of us being Lucas & the Hollywood producer being SOE. In both cases the players & Lucas had specific ideas for their Jedi character... & in both cases someone with the powers to change the rules(SOE& Hollywood exec) did so without allowing the players or Lucas to edit & revise their character ideas. So, in the same way that weareforced to make ourmains as Padawans if we wanta Jedi, Lucas would have been stuck with Vader saying "Random guy No. 4... I am your father!"






I really do not understand what you're trying to say here at all..


We are still able to master any profession we want and attain the same template that our main had with the alternate unlocked character. The big fuss is that it will be more work.. Welcome to Jedi..











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Physkoris
Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:02 pm
#26






hawkbat37 wrote:





JediForceSeeker wrote:

Yeah, i agree with you, or i would like to change my name/looks, i dont really like the way i have it. And i know some people out there dont want Wookiee's as Jedi, or w/e species they have.






Don't know about a species change but it would be nice if, when you complete the last trial, you were given the option to change your name and/or move your new Jedi's name to the 2nd slot and pick a new one for your Jedi. And as far as looks go, I plan on hitting a ID sometime this week.





Why should Jedi be able to switch theirname/species? Is there any logic behind it or is it just another"Because I want to..." request?









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