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Thread: Free unlocks?

Lomar4976
Mon Jan 03, 2005 4:59 pm
#14

The free unlocks were a gift for those who hologrinded, you cant get them now if you didnt hologrind during the days before publish 9.


You get 1 free unlock for every stage you were along your 4 holo + 4 silent profession path to reach your natural unlock after your second holo professions (basically, if you just did your holo professions and didnt do any silent ones, you should get 2 free unlocks, each silent you discovered provided you an extra free unlock)





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Ixtli
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:31 pm
#15






Rigom wrote:

Has anyone got more detailed info on how the free unlocks work? Ive read a little in the FAQ post but would like to know what you have experienced personally about this.

Also, does the Old Fart need a server reset to visit you?

thanks







The following link which is an advance players guide on this site will tell you about the history of the old system and what you need exactly to qualify for free unlocks:


http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=The%20Path%20of%20the%20Jedi:%20Reckoning%20of%20Effort





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HardwiredXMan
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:34 pm
#16






Lomar4976 wrote:

The free unlocks were a gift for those who hologrinded, you cant get them now if you didnt hologrind during the days before publish 9.


You get 1 free unlock for every stage you were along your 4 holo + 4 silent profession path to reach your natural unlock after your second holo professions (basically, if you just did your holo professions and didnt do any silent ones, you should get 2 free unlocks, each silent you discovered provided you an extra free unlock)







Just wanted to say that the unlocks actually are not a gift......you actually had to work and grind to find those hidden professions you got credit for....whether you used a holo or not....you worked to grind that profession(s). So technically, they are not free unlocks....that's just what people started calling it because with the new system it seemed as though you didn't have to do anything to get them....when you actually paid the dues before pub 10 and just got credit after pub 10.....maybe a little nit picky but hey, it is what it is.

makittot
Mon Jan 03, 2005 5:42 pm
#17






HardwiredXMan wrote:





Lomar4976 wrote:

The free unlocks were a gift for those who hologrinded, you cant get them now if you didnt hologrind during the days before publish 9.


You get 1 free unlock for every stage you were along your 4 holo + 4 silent profession path to reach your natural unlock after your second holo professions (basically, if you just did your holo professions and didnt do any silent ones, you should get 2 free unlocks, each silent you discovered provided you an extra free unlock)







Just wanted to say that the unlocks actually are not a gift......you actually had to work and grind to find those hidden professions you got credit for....whether you used a holo or not....you worked to grind that profession(s). So technically, they are not free unlocks....that's just what people started calling it because with the new system it seemed as though you didn't have to do anything to get them....when you actually paid the dues before pub 10 and just got credit after pub 10.....maybe a little nit picky but hey, it is what it is.






/agree

Free unlocks are a reward for those who grinded there buts off and did not get a Jedi pre pub 9. I have friends that master 20 professions, and did not unlock.





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Galen111
Tue Jan 04, 2005 12:01 am
#18

I worked my butt off and didn't get any unlocks.. so yes. I do think they are "freebies"



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Nipplehead
Tue Jan 04, 2005 1:00 am
#19

from what i remember it depended on how many profs you did and how close you were to your silent (had to complete all 4 holo's)


i had done 18 profs and got 4 free unlocks


(completed all 4 holos)



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HardwiredXMan
Tue Jan 04, 2005 3:01 pm
#20






Galen111 wrote:

I worked my butt off and didn't get any unlocks.. so yes. I do think they are "freebies"







consider yourself very unlucky....just because you didn't get any unlocks and worked your butt off doesn't mean that the unlocks are free.it's not like people who didn't master hidden professions got unlocks. Simply put, if you do not find and grind the hidden professions, you don't get any unlocks. If you did 20 professions and none of them were the hidden professions....you still don't get any unlocks but your just really really really unlucky.


Fact is, a freebie is something you get for doing absolutely nothing towards acquiring it. To get unlocks, you have to work towards mastering the right professions.....that is the price you pay and the reward is that you get unlocks and don't have to grind the 1.25 million or sofs xp (which by the way is about a minimum of capping an elite profession 22 times to get the xp to convert to fs xp).

Ixtli
Wed Jan 05, 2005 6:59 am
#21







HardwiredXMan wrote:





Lomar4976 wrote:

The free unlocks were a gift for those who hologrinded, you cant get them now if you didnt hologrind during the days before publish 9.


You get 1 free unlock for every stage you were along your 4 holo + 4 silent profession path to reach your natural unlock after your second holo professions (basically, if you just did your holo professions and didnt do any silent ones, you should get 2 free unlocks, each silent you discovered provided you an extra free unlock)







Just wanted to say that the unlocks actually are not a gift......you actually had to work and grind to find those hidden professions you got credit for....whether you used a holo or not....you worked to grind that profession(s). So technically, they are not free unlocks....that's just what people started calling it because with the new system it seemed as though you didn't have to do anything to get them....when you actually paid the dues before pub 10 and just got credit after pub 10.....maybe a little nit picky but hey, it is what it is.







I don't think that your nit-picking at all I beleive that you hit the nail on the head and I agree with your comments. The last time I checked the word "Free" ment that something is given to you without working, earning, trading, or paying for it.

However, I also beleive that they are being called free unlocks because few people such as those who wrote the Guides, tested the system when the revamp was in bata on the test server, and are correspondents are setting the tone for it. Therefore, everyone is associating "earned credit" which is what it is really called with the term "free unlocks". I took and quoted the following from one of the FS guides posted in this forum:

"To get a free unlock, you must talk to Paemos, who offers any free unlocks you might have. He will unlock the branch of your choice, and allocate enough xp to master that branch. Training is provided by Noldan."

"Remember: Unlock ONE free branch at a time, train it, then return for another free branch."

Source: Guide: From Non-FS to Jedi Padawan, Ithiris, http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Forcesensitive&message.id=18

I used this as an example because this is clearly what I'm making my point about. I also hope that the author takes no offense because that is not my intent. (Also, you couldn't miss it because it's written in big bold red colors)


Remember that most of those who are vetrans are going to tell people to look at the guides and the FAQ's first, especially to people who are new. When they do this is what they are going to see. In other words they will be following our lead.

It's actually no one's fault because it's relative an easy mistake to make especially when your writing something. I would suggest that for those which have more experience with the Jedi quest, etc.. to re-evaluate some of the dialog that is written in the guide. If changes are to be affective, it is logical that this should be the starting point.


Message Edited by Ixtli on 01-05-2005 09:04 AM



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FightmasterJorak
Wed Jan 05, 2005 7:27 am
#22






HardwiredXMan wrote:





Galen111 wrote:

I worked my butt off and didn't get any unlocks.. so yes. I do think they are "freebies"







and don't have to grind the 1.25 million or sofs xp (which by the way is about a minimum of capping an elite profession 22 times to get the xp to convert to fs xp).






Is 22 times definatly the right number?!?! Thinking about it THAT way, the grind doesn't seem so bad at all.



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Nohoah
Wed Jan 05, 2005 8:02 am
#23



Is 22 times definatly the right number?!?! Thinking about it THAT way, the grind doesn't seem so bad at all.





Actually if you figure it out: (Someone double check my calculations, I still haven't gotten down my first cup of coffee so I'm not firing on all cylinders yet)

Let's say your a Master Swordsman:

Two Handed Weapon Experience Caps at 900k

If you only cap this out you'll get at leat 90k of combat experience (I make sure to get at least 100k of combat experience)

113400000 Two Handed Weapons Expereince

11340000Combat Experience

126 Trips to the village

This all assumes there were zero unlocks from the holo-days


If you stop and think about it it's really not that bad, if you cap your experience at least once a day you'll be in synch with the village if you work really hard andcap 2 times a day eventually you'll get ahead of the villge and have to wait for the village to shift before you can train your boxes.


masterkiller56
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:03 pm
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masterkiller56
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:04 pm
#25

OK this may sound nOObish but can somone explain what free unlcoks areand how do i get 1




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Emmaleth
Tue Jan 18, 2005 7:33 pm
#26

You can't get them only people that had professions already done before the revamp took effect get free unlocks.
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