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Thread: How about Allowing Jedi xp to convert to FS xp

reenobrewdo
Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:50 am
#14

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Chillak
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:20 pm
#15

I understand what you are saying but remember everyone have the ability to change there profession in the game. One day I can be crafter next day I could start grinding to TKM when I do that I change my skills, this would be another example of people maybe changing there mind on there spec to better suit there new play style. It just sucks that when you finally hit Jedi you cant change your old spec to help you out.
jayhof
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:31 pm
#16



Just a question do jedi not get combat xp? If they did they could use that without haveing to change their temp. But It would be better if they could just exchange jedi xp at a say a 4 jedi xp to 1 fs xprate. I think that would be fare. A cl 80 can get about 7k or 233 fs xp on a kill and a jedi gets what 1.5k or 375 fs xp a kill. That would make it to be about even or close enough anyways since jedi have already done enough grinding.

Message Edited by jayhof on 10-21-2005 03:33 PM

drumplayinfreak
Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:14 pm
#17

I have wrote TIX to CSRs requesting this in game FOREVER now. JediXP turn in and Ship Crafting XP turn in are two completelypossitive things to have in the game and have not been done. To all those trying to get this through start sending tickets requesting this. Its just plain dumb it is not in the game for something so easy to do and does not hurt anyone.


And - no Jedi do not get combat XP.


theEwokDude
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:26 pm
#18






Chillak wrote:

I understand what you are saying but remember everyone have the ability to change there profession in the game. One day I can be crafter next day I could start grinding to TKM when I do that I change my skills, this would be another example of people maybe changing there mind on there spec to better suit there new play style. It just sucks that when you finally hit Jedi you cant change your old spec to help you out.






Actually, one of the things I really like about this game is I can try all professions. The grind isn't that bad unless you wanted to try Droid Engineer. I tried that and the grind is boring to say the least.


However, this situation isn't the same as your example. People want to respec their templates because instead of doing the FS grind for the branches they wanted, they decided to take the easy way out. I know people who are AFK grinding as a dancer for FS XP turnin. I know people who are doing Master Scout just because of the 8:1 conversion. This is just a case of people looking for an easy way out and now want the opportunity to have the same tempaltes that people like myself have. Only I wasn't lazy. I was patient, got the unlocks I wanted, and am now finishing up my grind. Sure it took me a month longer to do but at least I am happy with my template. You guys that took the easy way out of the FS grind deserve the trees you are stuck with.





"There are a lot of different levels within that [profession], so the people who've been [working down the Jedi path] for a long time will be much more powerful than the people just coming up. We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years." - John Smedley

Aerofea (90) Dark Elder Jedi of Lowca - Imperial Colonel
igota50
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:44 pm
#19


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Why not let someone who is already forces sensitive ... being a jedi.... Still have a way to convert remainder of jedi xp that they have gotten through grinding with friends into something more productive?


This should be a hot subject. I am not jedi but its a little strange how this was never implemented in the first place .... /shrug


But I would think of this as something that should be in game.




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theEwokDude
Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:12 am
#20






reenobrewdo wrote:

This would allow jedi the ability to change their current FS trees and eliminate a lot of headaches of being stuck with trees you dont want.


Jaawa


Kauri






Just curious, how does anyone get stuck with FS trees they don't want? You can take any FS skills you want. There is no set path. You take the skill and trees you want to while unlocking. I don't follow your logic here. Are you trying to say that in order to finish the grind faster people have decided to use Scout or Entertainer XP to unlcok branches they didn't want? Just to finish the grind faster? If that is the case I say tough **** to those people. If you are too impatient to wait for the skills you want to unlock that is your own fault. I say let them sit with the skills they have since they were to impatient, which oddly enough is supposed to be a virtue of jedi. I could have been done with the FS grind long ago if I didn't wait for phases to come around again. I was patient and now have all the unlocks I want. What about people like me who have the patience to get the template and skills we want? Sorry, but your asking for the lazy and impatient people out there to havea way to compensate for their ineptness. I say leave it as is. We don't need another system that caters to the impatient and weak.



"There are a lot of different levels within that [profession], so the people who've been [working down the Jedi path] for a long time will be much more powerful than the people just coming up. We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years." - John Smedley

Aerofea (90) Dark Elder Jedi of Lowca - Imperial Colonel
Chillak
Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:25 am
#21

Your also including the people that took lines that were supposed to work and guess what? oh yes they dont so why not ask to be able to respec them? For example the crafting was supposed to give extra points but now it doesnt so why keep it?
theEwokDude
Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:34 am
#22






Chillak wrote:

Your also including the people that took lines that were supposed to work and guess what? oh yes they dont so why not ask to be able to respec them? For example the crafting was supposed to give extra points but now it doesnt so why keep it?





If you area Crafter and not getting the bonus then what other branch are you really going to get that would help you??? Healing? Luck? Persuasion? A combat branch? Sorry but that doesn't make sense. Not to even bring up the many, many things that do not work in this game that should.



"There are a lot of different levels within that [profession], so the people who've been [working down the Jedi path] for a long time will be much more powerful than the people just coming up. We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years." - John Smedley

Aerofea (90) Dark Elder Jedi of Lowca - Imperial Colonel
reenobrewdo
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:52 am
#23


I unlocked in March of 2004, which means I unlocked before the whole FS grind ever existed. I was able to choose which FS trees i wanted. however when i picked my trees, melee speed/accuracy didnt apply to sabers caused they werent considered melee for some reason. since they didnt apply, i chose other trees. but now, they changed it so melee speed/accuracy DO apply to jedi, and i would like the opportunity to change my jedi's template in order to reflect the changes they made in the game system.



Jaawa

Azaraphel1
Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:58 pm
#24

"However, this situation isn't the same as your example. People want to respec their templates because instead of doing the FS grind for the branches they wanted, they decided to take the easy way out. I know people who are AFK grinding as a dancer for FS XP turnin. I know people who are doing Master Scout just because of the 8:1 conversion. This is just a case of people looking for an easy way out and now want the opportunity to have the same tempaltes that people like myself have. Only I wasn't lazy. I was patient, got the unlocks I wanted, and am now finishing up my grind. Sure it took me a month longer to do but at least I am happy with my template. You guys that took the easy way out of the FS grind deserve the trees you are stuck with. "

Like this poster I waited for the trees I wanted. Unlike this poster I think Jedi should be able to convert XP to change FS skills or gain more than the required 6 branches. It is unreasonable to think that you will know the exact Jedi template you are going to finish with. Some templates leave 5 SP free, some 1, others more or less. Why must they be forced to let these SP lie dormant? While you may consider their initial choice as a lazy one I don't see how you could think grinding FS as a Jedi would amount to being lazy. Jedi receive no other XP except for Jedi XP unless they do something non-Jedi. Not even Combat XP is earned by Jedi. Jedi XP is earned at roughly 1/5 of any other Melee or Ranged weapon. Now putting the trade in at 1:1 would probably be too good a deal considering other combat related XP trades for 1/30. But it should be higher than 1/30 because Jedi cannot earn Combat XP. Plus, there is no danger of being attacked by a BH when grinding as TKM or MRifles. The same cannot be said for Jedi. At this point I'm sure someone will say BH pose no real threat to Jedi or that's the price Jedi pay for being Jedi. I'm not interested in those arguments here. In addition, not only will they have to grind FS at Jedi XP but they will have to maintain a higher amount of SP invested in FS if they are simply changing their skills around because you must maintain 6 full branches at all times. So to change FS Experimentation for FS Melee Defense they will have to gain Melee Defense first and then drop FS Experimentation. For that time those extra points into FS could seriously screw with their template. In your efforts to punish those who you deem as lazy you place blinders on your ability to think of other possibilities. No one in this game should be forced to be stuck with any skill.
theEwokDude
Sat Oct 22, 2005 8:39 pm
#25






reenobrewdo wrote:


I unlocked in March of 2004, which means I unlocked before the whole FS grind ever existed. I was able to choose which FS trees i wanted. however when i picked my trees, melee speed/accuracy didnt apply to sabers caused they werent considered melee for some reason. since they didnt apply, i chose other trees. but now, they changed it so melee speed/accuracy DO apply to jedi, and i would like the opportunity to change my jedi's template in order to reflect the changes they made in the game system.



Jaawa





My apologies Jaawa. I was unaware that the skills had actually not affected lightsabers at one time. In your case I think the request is fair.




"There are a lot of different levels within that [profession], so the people who've been [working down the Jedi path] for a long time will be much more powerful than the people just coming up. We're still rewarding people for their loyalty over the years." - John Smedley

Aerofea (90) Dark Elder Jedi of Lowca - Imperial Colonel
drumplayinfreak
Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:20 am
#26

/bump


Make it so!


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