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Thread: Devs---New way to become a jedi.

NOFXwookie
Tue Apr 12, 2005 10:48 am
#14






Gizmonkey wrote:
as for the vis question someone said you would not get vis. you would on player characters that are not jedi and on jedi on the opposite faction. This makes it where you can have a PvE jedi. and if you want to do PvP then you will get vis. I have a jedi, and a BH. I would like to have jedi chosing to be PvE and PvP. My jedi would do both, but with what someone said that some BH like to hunt padawan because they dont have template finished, where is the fun in that. No challenge at all. Plus with the time to get certain things like padawan and knight, they are not exact or close just implying that we need some sort of time to add to it. My friend just made jedi knight with his 4th account. These are things i dont like to see. from total newb to Jedi Knight in 7 months should not be real. it should take time as how when this launched jedi where not supposed to be in the game. They put them in through holos. I actually liked that, you had to grind up professions to get it, now you just go to the village do 6 quests and use nades for combat xp. not everyone uses nades i know but alot do to take the easy road to get their jedi. the ones who dont use nades i respect, i know everyone does not want to take forever to get jedi, everyone wants to be one, but everyone should not be one. I would give up my jedi if they made these changes or something close to them. I would give up my jedi if they made a cap on them, or if they put permadeath in. I actually liked perma death. made jedi scared and rare.





It isnt real for everyone. It is only real for established players who can buy another account and feed that account money and items to progress that fast. I have also done exactly this.I have an account that's 1 year old, I bought another at the first of this year. I leveled it and now it will be jedi in just a few more short weeks. Roughly 6 more. So it has only taken me4 months to grind, pvp, have tons of fun, get fs and unlock train 4 columns, and im am still moving. I will be knight around the 8-10 month of this year given I work moderatly and not super fast.So in relaity it takes at least 75% of a year for a VET to make a new toon be Knight. A REAL NEWBIE could never ever do this, they would have to go through the process of becoming a VET first and knowing the entire game. hehe




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Gizmonkey
Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:22 pm
#15

as for the vis question someone said you would not get vis. you would on player characters that are not jedi and on jedi on the opposite faction. This makes it where you can have a PvE jedi. and if you want to do PvP then you will get vis. I have a jedi, and a BH. I would like to have jedi chosing to be PvE and PvP. My jedi would do both, but with what someone said that some BH like to hunt padawan because they dont have template finished, where is the fun in that. No challenge at all. Plus with the time to get certain things like padawan and knight, they are not exact or close just implying that we need some sort of time to add to it. My friend just made jedi knight with his 4th account. These are things i dont like to see. from total newb to Jedi Knight in 7 months should not be real. it should take time as how when this launched jedi where not supposed to be in the game. They put them in through holos. I actually liked that, you had to grind up professions to get it, now you just go to the village do 6 quests and use nades for combat xp. not everyone uses nades i know but alot do to take the easy road to get their jedi. the ones who dont use nades i respect, i know everyone does not want to take forever to get jedi, everyone wants to be one, but everyone should not be one. I would give up my jedi if they made these changes or something close to them. I would give up my jedi if they made a cap on them, or if they put permadeath in. I actually liked perma death. made jedi scared and rare.



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XPixieHeadX
Wed Apr 13, 2005 12:20 am
#16

A day or 2? come on!!! even with nades it's gonna take u a few weeks at least to grind xp for 24 fs boxes!!!



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Gizmonkey
Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:14 am
#17



XPixieHeadX wrote:
A day or 2? come on!!! even with nades it's gonna take u a few weeks at least to grind xp for 24 fs boxes!!!



few weeks my ass. i was solo grouped with my friend. 1 and a half buffs he had the whole tree for melee speed done from nading.



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yarble
Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:13 pm
#18

how about give a jedi to ever person that hasnt posted a "New way to become jedi" post.

itll deffinatly cut the population down



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DarkSide08
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:35 pm
#19

ok what do yall mean by grinding on SWG ? ???



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Amana
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:50 pm
#20

I do agree that the current system of ultra grinding is pretty harsh it was the only way I guess the devs could think of to do. It would be nice to see a quest based system like they said instead of run to the village do quest grind xp get tree scenario. Like you go out compete in combat and get FS points and do it over a period of the village time and at the end you get a full FS tree and you can do this and get the 6 trees necessary to do the find melichae and kill him quest. I do have to say that was my most favorite quest in the game so far because it had a good reward and required group help to do it. Then keep the initiate to jedi padawan the same but for padawan to knight make it more of a quest instead of a wait where you are again invited to a place like the padawan enclaves where you can go for sanctuary then undertake quests to further your training in the arts but also keep in the grinding aspect. Already did the math and for me killing bloodseeker mites nets 650 jedi xp times that by 1k you get 650k jedi xp which is only enough to make lvl 1 in a jedi skill.



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Eamon42
Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:52 pm
#21






Gizmonkey wrote:





XPixieHeadX wrote:

A day or 2? come on!!! even with nades it's gonna take u a few weeks at least to grind xp for 24 fs boxes!!!





few weeks my ass. i was solo grouped with my friend. 1 and a half buffs he had the whole tree for melee speed done from nading.




I'm going to have to call BS on this..i just finished the grind, all of my fs xp in 4 weeks, that was roughly one buff session a night, 2 per day on the weekend, grouped for every one. While I didn't always grind as fast as i could have, the BEST i ever made was 465k in one session, 3.5 hours, i have heard of getting up to 500k...but that is only if EVERYTHING falls completely into place...remember, this is dathomir and 75% of the time your lair spawns in the middle of a bunch of other crap that your mobs agro, you then half to go kill those other critters to get yours back = wasting buff time.


But let's say 500k per buff...it's exactly 1.25 million totrain one tree...that = 2.5 buff sessions or roughtly 8-9 hours of grinding..it can be done in a week..but most people have jobs/lives



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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY
Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:23 pm
#22

well, I agree somewhat with the post, however, its unlikely the devs would change it, because, well, their devs that dont seem to listen often....



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Air85
Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:08 am
#23






Gizmonkey wrote:





XPixieHeadX wrote:

A day or 2? come on!!! even with nades it's gonna take u a few weeks at least to grind xp for 24 fs boxes!!!





few weeks my ass. i was solo grouped with my friend. 1 and a half buffs he had the whole tree for melee speed done from nading.





I don't see how in 1.5 buffs ANYONE could get 1.225mil FSxp. The most tends to be 400-500k FSxp per buff. I could be wrong, yes, but I still don't believe it



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Crack_Paddle_Addict
Thu Apr 14, 2005 12:28 am
#24

Maybe the longer you study a certain thing will determine how effective it is. Example melee speed is plus 12 with all 4 filled. Maybe if you do it in a day it will be only plus 4 with all and go up a couple points the longer you train in it. Or not a time not a grind just quests like an unlock, initiate,enlightened, and master level of learning quest for each with the master level needing a higher up jedi knight to help you do it for each box.This should be for allup to knight then training new jedi should be the way to level and if there are no higher ups wanting to get higher and no new ones to train it won't flood as I see it this would be an example of a fun reasonable alternate to the current method. Extending the time would suck tremendously with no extra benies. But this way the people who care and want to master it right could. and the exploiters wouldhave to play ball on the feild. Ideas like thisthat allow the game to remain FUN (game=fun) andas resonable as possible with a balance and control factor, are highly more appreciated than a make it longer so everyone is not like me flame thread. Thanks for your time everyone.


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