Force Sensitive Archive
Thread: Devs---New way to become a jedi.
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Gizmonkey
Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:33 am
#1
Everyone goes on about how easy becoming a jedi is. Grinding is pointless, not fun, soloable, not the way a mmorpg should be.
-You should become Force Sensitive after about 10-20 quest and 1 month of gameplay.(Acount active)
-FS to Initiate: 6 months min have to complete 100 quest(maybe less)and maybe get some skills to learn to control part of
the force before you become Initiate(yes grinding, but does not grant force powers, only a bonus when you hit jedi,3-4 trees)
-Initiate to Padawan: You should have trials as now, 1 month min or 2 weeks min, You should be able to train under a Player Jedi
(ie going light train under Jedi Knight, Going dark, train under a DJK) Apprentice/Master bonus and cons(ie Improved dmg when partied
but you both take dmg, the getting hit takes full the one not getting hit takes 1/4 dmg).
-Padawan to Knight: atleast 1 year to complete, Many trials, quests, and of course grinding.
-Knight on up: FRS sucks. It should be more player controled. Duels against jedi of your own type,(friendly no DB), Quests, and PvP
should all rank in a new Ranking system.(ie you cant keep getting PvP and rank with no quest,or Duels done. and other way around)
Once you get enough points, you have to complete a series of trials for next rank taking 4-5 months.(maybe less) Also Bond between
Master and Apprentice can be broke.(maybe training an apprentice could factor in as well)
--Vis should be gone when with jedi of your own type or master/apprentice. No vis on NPC's but when they see you they call in back up.
Making it harder to fight them. Imp/Reb NPC call in an alarm if spotted near town they control all reb/imps see it across their screen.
If in wild or spawned base they call in Specialy Trainied NPC to kill you (maybe 1/3,1/2 harder than what you are fighting now)
Just my 2 cents. this hit me like a ton of bricks when i was watching tv trying to go to sleep. Probly not this best way but i think it
will make some people think twice about becoming a jedi. also some people are absessed with becoming one so it wont stop them, but slow
them. makes for more player interactive than old one.
Also posting link in jedi forum.
-You should become Force Sensitive after about 10-20 quest and 1 month of gameplay.(Acount active)
-FS to Initiate: 6 months min have to complete 100 quest(maybe less)and maybe get some skills to learn to control part of
the force before you become Initiate(yes grinding, but does not grant force powers, only a bonus when you hit jedi,3-4 trees)
-Initiate to Padawan: You should have trials as now, 1 month min or 2 weeks min, You should be able to train under a Player Jedi
(ie going light train under Jedi Knight, Going dark, train under a DJK) Apprentice/Master bonus and cons(ie Improved dmg when partied
but you both take dmg, the getting hit takes full the one not getting hit takes 1/4 dmg).
-Padawan to Knight: atleast 1 year to complete, Many trials, quests, and of course grinding.
-Knight on up: FRS sucks. It should be more player controled. Duels against jedi of your own type,(friendly no DB), Quests, and PvP
should all rank in a new Ranking system.(ie you cant keep getting PvP and rank with no quest,or Duels done. and other way around)
Once you get enough points, you have to complete a series of trials for next rank taking 4-5 months.(maybe less) Also Bond between
Master and Apprentice can be broke.(maybe training an apprentice could factor in as well)
--Vis should be gone when with jedi of your own type or master/apprentice. No vis on NPC's but when they see you they call in back up.
Making it harder to fight them. Imp/Reb NPC call in an alarm if spotted near town they control all reb/imps see it across their screen.
If in wild or spawned base they call in Specialy Trainied NPC to kill you (maybe 1/3,1/2 harder than what you are fighting now)
Just my 2 cents. this hit me like a ton of bricks when i was watching tv trying to go to sleep. Probly not this best way but i think it
will make some people think twice about becoming a jedi. also some people are absessed with becoming one so it wont stop them, but slow
them. makes for more player interactive than old one.
Also posting link in jedi forum.
RalenHlaano
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:19 am
#3
Agreed on every term.
We haven't come very far from holo-grinding.
We haven't come very far from holo-grinding.
MrLogical
Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:27 am
#4
Yea, makes playing the game more worth while.
But i say incresing the time between FS and Initiate.
There are already enough Jedi in game anyway lol.
But still very cool.
Specter2k3
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:30 am
#5
Only Nader get to Initiate the fastes with now the DB/Rezers, other than that the way to Initiate is about fine, and i'm a holo-grinder to.
Their are not to many Jedi, its up to the ppl whether they want to be Jedi not u.
KyiasLightsun
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:49 am
#6
some of those 5 months...3 months...
that would be alot of months..and who is to say a game will last as many years as you are looking at?
that would be alot of months..and who is to say a game will last as many years as you are looking at?
Gizmonkey
Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:52 pm
#7
KyiasLightsun wrote:
some of those 5 months...3 months...
that would be alot of months..and who is to say a game will last as many years as you are looking at?
They are not exact. just impling that it should have a time frame, not be done in a day or 2.
Message Edited by Gizmonkey on 04-08-2005 06:53 PM
Rug_monster
Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:26 am
#8
If this were the way to jedi i would just about quit the game. I dont plan on spending my life on becoming a jedi. However i can see why you say this. it does make it a bit more traditional instead of us going out and just killing baz nicth 24-7. But starwars, like iv said before on the forums, star wars is majorly based on jedi. Maybe not having hundreds of jedi like there are on our servers now but it is based a lot on jedi. Everyone wanted to be darth Maul when episode 1 came out and yoda when episode II came out. I think that they should keep it mostly like it is with more quests tho like you said. Also to have jedi have more variety within themselves.
Paulo187
Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:56 am
#9
don't agree with that at all. all you've suggested is making it stupidly long (i know you said theyre not final time spans but the time span now from non FS to knight is long enough). it will be just as boring and easy and nobody will play the game. as for not having vis from NPCs, pffft, how the hell are you gonna get vis then? i know you'd still be able to get it from PCs but most of tthe BH missions would be for knights and above. a lot of BH (especially the ones who are not fully templated yet) like to hunt padawans because they are not fully templated jedi.
as for the master/apprentice thing, it has been suggested before to have such a system. however, i dont agree that the master should get damaged if you group, cuz why would the master want to do that? he's not going to follow you round whilst you grind padawan and make sure he doesnt get damaged. also, i dont think this will work because new jedi will be too dependant on their masters for things.
i dont think there is anything majorly wrong with the current system. people who are jedi already complain that its too easy and people doing it complain saying its too hard and long. i say just get on with your own game and stop crying
as for the master/apprentice thing, it has been suggested before to have such a system. however, i dont agree that the master should get damaged if you group, cuz why would the master want to do that? he's not going to follow you round whilst you grind padawan and make sure he doesnt get damaged. also, i dont think this will work because new jedi will be too dependant on their masters for things.
i dont think there is anything majorly wrong with the current system. people who are jedi already complain that its too easy and people doing it complain saying its too hard and long. i say just get on with your own game and stop crying
KyiasLightsun
Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:28 am
#10
What do you mean it takes 2 days???
It takes 18 weeks to unlock regardless if you grind the entire time or do it with nades for a couple days...
it still takes 18 weeks to unlock.
Is it easy? yes, but a GREAT improvement from the hologrind in terms of time and quest unlocks.
During hologrind you ould get Jedi in 30 days (1 prof a day) that is saying you did 30 different proffessions...
in the new system it takes you around 18 weeks to get to the paddie trials...
The new system isn't hard no, but it is long. there is no need to make it longer.
It takes 18 weeks to unlock regardless if you grind the entire time or do it with nades for a couple days...
it still takes 18 weeks to unlock.
Is it easy? yes, but a GREAT improvement from the hologrind in terms of time and quest unlocks.
During hologrind you ould get Jedi in 30 days (1 prof a day) that is saying you did 30 different proffessions...
in the new system it takes you around 18 weeks to get to the paddie trials...
The new system isn't hard no, but it is long. there is no need to make it longer.
Bockeroo
Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:23 am
#11
i think holocrons should come back. village sucks. ultimately, i dont think there is a best way to go about unlocking jedi. SOE cant win. holocrons were the most effective in my mind though. they didnt kill the casual player and didnt have you tossing grenades at baz nitches. sure, you had to grind to get a profession, but at the end it was very rewarding. you could enjoy that profession for awhile or drop it and move on to another.
acvoelcker
Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:21 pm
#12
I think I agree with a quest based or time based option to becoming a Jedi. I started the nade grind and got bored with that real quick. I was a Master commando too, and the combat xp rolled in fairly fast, but is was just mundane. who wants to spend forever on tossing nades at Baz Nitches all day and night? not me, I'd rather enjoy the game the way it was meant to be played. I still plan on getting to Jedi, just not any time soon. I may just suprise my guild and present myself to them as a Padawan some time in the distant future..... something dramatic... like get the mayor to call a guild meeting for everyone who's on, and change into my padawas robes right in front of them and une the title too. That would be more worth it thatn the thankless grind and then getting owned by a BH just cause you accidentally got on the terminals as a padawan.
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