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Thread: LOL, they actually admitted that they changed it!

rhaws
Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:15 pm
#14






RakovMoonrider wrote:

id still LOVE to see you people holocron grind armorsmith, bio engineer, chef, weaponsmith, artisan, droid engineer, merchant, architecht in an attempt to get jedi like we used to have to do...



quit whining about a puny 30:1 conversion rate, at least you can progress doing something you enjoy and is free, nothing is quite like spending 100k on the necessary materials to grind one box of architecht...dont even get me started on the tier 4 box costs.








I would gladly like to purchase resources and afk macro my xp up like most of the artisan professions (or entertainer for that matter)did in the holo grind.



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gotslapped
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:13 pm
#15






Broom wrote:





RakovMoonrider wrote:

id still LOVE to see you people holocron grind armorsmith, bio engineer, chef, weaponsmith, artisan, droid engineer, merchant, architecht in an attempt to get jedi like we used to have to do...



quit whining about a puny 30:1 conversion rate, at least you can progress doing something you enjoy and is free, nothing is quite like spending 100k on the necessary materials to grind one box of architecht...dont even get me started on the tier 4 box costs.








And I just love how all the smug comments come from people who already unlocked a jedi. Personally, I have 2 jedi, but I see nothing funny in this. I was there in the hologrind, and by far most hologrinders had it easier then than the fs grind is. Resource cost indeed. What about the costs for food, armor and weapons? Not to mention all the hours spent in mindnumbing boredom grinding the same mobs over and over. At least in the hologrind, there was some variation.


Also: SMC caves anyone?


Linna






Well said...

TarMangani
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:41 pm
#16






RakovMoonrider wrote:

id still LOVE to see you people holocron grind armorsmith, bio engineer, chef, weaponsmith, artisan, droid engineer, merchant, architecht in an attempt to get jedi like we used to have to do...


quit whining about a puny 30:1 conversion rate, at least you can progress doing something you enjoy and is free, nothing is quite like spending 100k on the necessary materials to grind one box of architecht...dont even get me started on the tier 4 box costs.





Yeah, cause back in your day it was hauling blocks of ice up six flights of stairs in order to make a living right?


All the "old timers" are all the same, talking smack about how rough they had it WAAAAAY back when, and how any complaint about anything nowadays should never be mentioned, simply because everything is easier than when they were growing up back in the neighborhood...


Going from 10:1 to 30:1 sucks...period. I don't really care how tough you think you had it.


So if you're a jedi now, why are you hanging around the FS forums anyway? Isn't that kind of like the football QB from 1985 lingering around the locker room just to try and capture the feeling again?







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RakovMoonrider
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:42 pm
#17


rofl owned by someone i consider a friend in-game (linna) i wonder if you know who i am? oh well you probably do...


and your right i am a jedi, i did make a smug comment, but just because i voiced it doesn't make me bad, i earned the right to be smug when i sat with my AT-ST in the science outpost as my only company, with 7.5 million credits worth of grenades in a backpack, throwing them at the same creatures 4-5 hours a day for 3 months, before the "ooohhh you poor pre-cuFS grinder how sad 4 j00! stop whining" posts start flowing ini know nading is still used today but its still completely different, but i wont get into all of that,


the fact remains, ive talked to people about this all day in-game and from the people who havent finished its all "omg soe suxxorz i quit this damn game i hate it so much i cant even get what i pay for!" (to QUOTE 90% of them, the only difference is that some actually said soe just sucks)


and the jedi say "oh, wow, thats horrible but...at least there wont be any more for awhile"


whats stopping you from getting it?! wth man you have 6 MONTHS to grind that xp!!! does it matter if you have it done in a month? NO!!!


if jedi is supposed to be the end-game profession why are you whining that you cant do anything for 6 months because you have to grind jedi? Shouldn't you have done it all already? i bet the first jedi to go from glowy to padawan in this new system will tell us that he got his grind done within the 6 month timer, i GAURENTEE it, so what has changed huh? the ability to tell your buddies that you have your fs grind done which does nothing for you, no it is not the same as carrying the saber...


if it ends up taking 8-9 months thats where something needs to address because that does create problems, but think about it, 6 months = 180 days to get that done, most of you havent even been playing for 180 days and yet already have 5-6 professions ground out.


"oh but the casual gamers cant do it! they cant get jedi!" shut it im a casual gamer myself, the village has taken me 1 year to complete (started the day it went live) half because i wanted special unlocks and the other half because i didnt know wth i was doing.


your all just freaking out because you cant get your grinds done in a month and then do nothing for the rest of the time.
Grunzer
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:48 pm
#18






gotslapped wrote:






RakovMoonrider wrote:

id still LOVE to see you people holocron grind armorsmith, bio engineer, chef, weaponsmith, artisan, droid engineer, merchant, architecht in an attempt to get jedi like we used to have to do...



quit whining about a puny 30:1 conversion rate, at least you can progress doing something you enjoy and is free, nothing is quite like spending 100k on the necessary materials to grind one box of architecht...dont even get me started on the tier 4 box costs.








Are you talking about the holocron grinds that could be done with power AFK macros (mastering professions in a day or two) or after the macros were nerfed?






Yeah, funny isn't it? All you needed to have was the $ to buy the resources and a couple hours to set up the macro's and off you went to the master box in no time.



It was actually easier then to grind out Prof's because you could SOLO hunt the combat professions. Can't do that anymore either.






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Grunzer
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:50 pm
#19






Hawkbat5 wrote:
No bubble to burst. Sorry to burst yours. Just tired of watching 3 days worth of bellyaching and rumors. Itit went live 5 hours after I went to bed thats fine. Maybe things will quiet down now.






Heya Booby, they post the publish notes the night before the patch because Tigg's and Thunderheart do not come into work that early to post them then.



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TarMangani
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:54 pm
#20






RakovMoonrider wrote:


if jedi is supposed to be the end-game profession why are you whining that you cant do anything for 6 months because you have to grind jedi? Shouldn't you have done it all already? i bet the first jedi to go from glowy to padawan in this new system will tell us that he got his grind done within the 6 month timer, i GAURENTEE it, so what has changed huh? the ability to tell your buddies that you have your fs grind done which does nothing for you, no it is not the same as carrying the saber...


if it ends up taking 8-9 months thats where something needs to address because that does create problems, but think about it, 6 months = 180 days to get that done, most of you havent even been playing for 180 days and yet already have 5-6 professions ground out.


"oh but the casual gamers cant do it! they cant get jedi!" shut it im a casual gamer myself, the village has taken me 1 year to complete (started the day it went live) half because i wanted special unlocks and the other half because i didnt know wth i was doing.


your all just freaking out because you cant get your grinds done in a month and then do nothing for the rest of the time.




In Korea they would tell those in country that the point system they were working on in order to rotate back to the world has just been changed and their time in country was extended as a result. This was one really good way to crush hope for soldiers.


Think about what you're saying with your blanket comments there Mr. Wizard, you're stereotyping every FS grinder into the "whining that you cant do anything for 6 months" category. There are plenty of us out here who have been casually grinding for over a year, despite the CU, and looking forward to unlocking. To face a setback like the Combat XP nerf is frustrating, especially when we hear it's only due to the fact that some players were using grenades to grind and the devs didn't like it.


How about you grow up a little and stop stereotyping...







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RakovMoonrider
Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:58 pm
#21

i based that post off of almost the entire front page of this forum, and all the previous posts in this thread


im talking to those who post in this forum...so far your one of the first that hasn't come in here saying you got screwed with a million exclamation points and bashing soe.


that should tell you that you werent included in the whiner's group
TarMangani
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:03 pm
#22





RakovMoonrider wrote:


i based that post off of almost the entire front page of this forum, and all the previous posts in this thread


im talking to those who post in this forum...so far your one of the first that hasn't come in here saying you got screwed with a million exclamation points and bashing soe.


that should tell you that you werent included in the whiner's group





When you say: "id still LOVE to see you people"..., that tells me thatI'm included in the whiner's group. If you want to target a specific audience, you should say so up front...






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RakovMoonrider
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:06 pm
#23


well it doesnt matter much, the xp rate is done, itll stay, but ill continue to watch everybody freak out over something that wont delay them at all...only seems that way

Message Edited by RakovMoonrider on 08-04-2005 03:06 PM

TarMangani
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:11 pm
#24






RakovMoonrider wrote:


well it doesnt matter much, the xp rate is done, itll stay, but ill continue to watch everybody freak out over something that wont delay them at all...only seems that way



It will delay the grind. It won't be as significant as people may think, but to say it won't delay "at all" is naive...




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RakovMoonrider
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:13 pm
#25

once again, we will see, will it take people as long as its taken us (assuming youve been at it for a year and are about to finish up) or will they still have it done in 6 months...but that 6 months will be all grinding, which is a pretty nice balance if you ask me
TarMangani
Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:17 pm
#26







RakovMoonrider wrote:
once again, we will see, will it take people as long as its taken us (assuming youve been at it for a year and are about to finish up) or will they still have it done in 6 months...but that 6 months will be all grinding, which is a pretty nice balance if you ask me





Unfortunately this game is based on grinding. I've played most of the professions, done the GCW and other things. The game gets very boring if one isn't grinding, which is sad, because the game has a ton of potential...


As for the six months being all grinding, when was the jedi quest not a grind? Even mastering six professions was a grind...



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