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Thread: FS Grind info, and a question: FS or Jedi grind harder
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Exterminater
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:47 am
#1
just want you to know that grenades take 20-40 mins to cap and it takes roughly 15 mins to go to village and back to SO
Kupcake
Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:24 am
#2
the jedi grind is easier than grinding 6+ mil of FS xp. I've done the whole bunch, and seen a guildie grind up Jedi in very little time, compared to the time i spent on FS. I think it will be both easier and more fun.
Rorar
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:15 am
#4
Kupcake wrote:
the jedi grind is easier than grinding 6+ mil of FS xp. I've done the whole bunch, and seen a guildie grind up Jedi in very little time, compared to the time i spent on FS. I think it will be both easier and more fun.
I would have to disagree. With the FS grind you don't have to think or worry about anything. You are a stacked melee (Swords and TKM would be my choice) and nobody can attack you while grinding.Go up to a lair area attack it on macro and come back a few minutes later. NOTHING easier than that. And you can't lose xp. You cap xp with 2 profs in no time and go convert. Don't even leave the planet. Not that 'hard' just boring and time consuming. Jedi is more of the same but with BH's coming to pick on middle of the road jedi. One BH death and you lose a buffset of grinding.
axiomBOTD
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:25 am
#5
Rorar wrote:
Kupcake wrote:
the jedi grind is easier than grinding 6+ mil of FS xp. I've done the whole bunch, and seen a guildie grind up Jedi in very little time, compared to the time i spent on FS. I think it will be both easier and more fun.
Don't forget for jedi we only get 1/5 the xp per kill compared to everyone else. So a 5000 xp rancor for you all, we get 1000. Not only that you forgot to take into consideration that if you die as a jedi you can lose A LOT of xp. You die doing fs village stuff you lose 0 xp. Also getting the 20k novice ls takes about 5 hrs. To master a jedi profession is over 3 mil. So yes FS Village was WAY easier. You don;t worry about losing xp, you don't get visibility, capping 130k fs xp takes only 2-3 hrs. I did the village and it was cake. Jedi is a lotttt longer. If you think the village is long and boring and you complain and hate it then you shouldn't even go for jedi. It is a lot longer and harder. If you had fun with the vilalge stuff and grind then you will have no problem with the village.
ravius7
Wed Nov 24, 2004 10:35 am
#6
FS grind is good practice, but no one will try to kill you as a FS, jedi get hunted a lot especially if you are weak and considered an easy mark. So jedi can be a real long grind with many setbacks.
otoolejp
Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:01 pm
#7
This isn't a question, more along the lines of food for thought. Feel free to add.
FS XP Skill Requirements
Novice box = 50K FS XP
Level 1 box = 175k FS XP
Level 2 box = 250k FS XP
Level 3 box = 350k FS XP
Level 4 box = 450k FS XP
Level 1 box = 175k FS XP
Level 2 box = 250k FS XP
Level 3 box = 350k FS XP
Level 4 box = 450k FS XP
1 Line Requirements
1 line = 1,225,000 FS XP
= 3,675,000 Combat XP
= 36,750,000 Weapon XP
= 18,375,000 Weapon XP including Combat XP
= 3675 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 245 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 668 Huurton Stalkers with Grenades
= 45 Huurton Stalker lairs with Grenades
= 21 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 12.25 Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 1.75 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
= 3,675,000 Combat XP
= 36,750,000 Weapon XP
= 18,375,000 Weapon XP including Combat XP
= 3675 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 245 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 668 Huurton Stalkers with Grenades
= 45 Huurton Stalker lairs with Grenades
= 21 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 12.25 Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 1.75 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
6 Line Requirements
6 lines = 7,350,000 FS XP
= 22,050,000 Combat XP
= 220,500,000 Weapon XP
= 110,250,000 Weapon XP including Combat XP
= 20050 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 1470 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 4009 Huurton Stalkers with Grenade
= 267 Huurton Stalker lairs with Grenades
= 123 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 73.5 Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 10.25 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 6.1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
= 22,050,000 Combat XP
= 220,500,000 Weapon XP
= 110,250,000 Weapon XP including Combat XP
= 20050 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 1470 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 4009 Huurton Stalkers with Grenade
= 267 Huurton Stalker lairs with Grenades
= 123 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 73.5 Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 10.25 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 6.1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
6 Line with 2 Novice Boxes
6 Lines= 7,450,000 FS Xp
2 Nvce = 22,350,000 Combat XP
= 223,500,000 Weapon XP
= 111,750,000 Weapon XP including Combat xp
= 22350 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 1490 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 4064 Huurton Stalkers with Grenades
= 271 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 124 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 74.5Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 10.25 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 6.1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
2 Nvce = 22,350,000 Combat XP
= 223,500,000 Weapon XP
= 111,750,000 Weapon XP including Combat xp
= 22350 Huurton Stalkers with Weapon
= 1490 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 4064 Huurton Stalkers with Grenades
= 271 Huurton Stalker lairs with Weapon
= 124 Max Weapon XP dumps with Combat
= 74.5Max Combat XP dumps with Grenades
= 10.25 Days of straight grinding with Weapon
= 6.1 Days of straight grinding with Grenades
Jedi
Novice box = 20,000
Level 1 Box = 200,000
Level 2 Box = 400,000
Level 3 Box = 800,000
Level 4 Box = 1,600,000
Master Box = 3,200,000
Level 1 Box = 200,000
Level 2 Box = 400,000
Level 3 Box = 800,000
Level 4 Box = 1,600,000
Master Box = 3,200,000
Standard Duel MasterXP req. 37,060,000Master, Master, 4004
Hybrid Single MasterXP req. 29,880,000 Master, 4004, 4004, 3002
Hybrid Single Master 2 xpreq. 31,080,000 Master, 4004, 4004, 4001
Hybrid Single MasterXP req. 29,880,000 Master, 4004, 4004, 3002
Hybrid Single Master 2 xpreq. 31,080,000 Master, 4004, 4004, 4001
Standard Duel Master Template would take 37,060 kills at 1000XP per.Jedi have to deal with avoiding PC's and NPC's. During leveling their characters, the XP for any creature goes down. Understanding this, There is no way that a Jedi would actually make that number of kills at 1000 XP. In addition jedi also have to avoid/fight/run from BH when they eventually hit the terminals.
My assumption based on this info is that once you leave the village, the grind truely begins.
Notes: Time to grind was based on 2 hours to max either Combat XP with grenades, or Standard Weapons XP. I know that the time I've listed may be a little high, but these are based on my normal non-zombie grinding. During my standard 2 hours, I'll spend a good 20 minutes or so tending to guild matters as I'm a guild leader. With this said, this standard should be attainable by everyone. This also assumes that each Huurton Stalker gives 5000xp and 500 combat xp each kill. Also I'm not a Jedi yet, so what I've listed for XP per kill for them, is based on what I've heard/read from others.
Jawacg
Wed Nov 24, 2004 2:02 pm
#8
Exterminater wrote:
just want you to know that grenades take 20-40 mins to cap and it takes roughly 15 mins to go to village and back to SO
Please tell me...
1.what type of nades are you tossing?
2. where are you grinding at?
3. what are you tossing nades at?
To cap combat in 40 mins is equal to 125 combat xp per second. To travelto the village and back in 15mins, must mean you grind on Dath. Just asking cause I might need to change my grind!
I am not a commando, so I cant use the high end nades. c-12's baby! LMAO! I can toss a case per each hurton mission I take, and still need to finish them off with the gaffi. And at least on Gorath, its takes longet than 15 mins to get from Dant mining outpost to the village and back.
Message Edited by Jawacg on 11-24-2004 02:09 PM
otoolejp
Wed Nov 24, 2004 4:31 pm
#9
Jawacg wrote:
Exterminater wrote:
just want you to know that grenades take 20-40 mins to cap and it takes roughly 15 mins to go to village and back to SO
Please tell me...
1.what type of nades are you tossing?
2. where are you grinding at?
3. what are you tossing nades at?
To cap combat in 40 mins is equal to 125 combat xp per second. To travelto the village and back in 15mins, must mean you grind on Dath. Just asking cause I might need to change my grind!
I am not a commando, so I cant use the high end nades. c-12's baby! LMAO! I can toss a case per each hurton mission I take, and still need to finish them off with the gaffi. And at least on Gorath, its takes longet than 15 mins to get from Dant mining outpost to the village and back.
Message Edited by Jawacg on 11-24-2004 02:09 PM
C-12's, Dant, huurton stalkers, but I get no where near the time is saying he does it in.
ChoNaguriai
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:11 pm
#10
Currently working on my first box 4 in Jedi. Let me tell you the 1.6 number can be psychologically daunting, but I have to say I have enjoyed Jedi 1.6 million times more than the grind to it. Depending on your outlook, playstyle and interest Jedi is either the greatest thing in the world or the worst. I love it, I was reborn in SWG when I finally made it to Padawan.
Caelrie
Wed Nov 24, 2004 7:16 pm
#11
His experience matches mine from when I did it. I threw thermal detonators. Average 30 minutes to cap hunting giant baznitches. 400,000 force-sensitive XP per buff session was pretty effortless.
Jawacg wrote:
Please tell me...
1.what type of nades are you tossing?
2. where are you grinding at?
3. what are you tossing nades at?
To cap combat in 40 mins is equal to 125 combat xp per second. To travelto the village and back in 15mins, must mean you grind on Dath. Just asking cause I might need to change my grind!
Frico
Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:02 am
#12
In these last 3 posts there was alot of "negative" force against Jedi grinding...
"Jedi is more of the same but with BH's coming to pick on middle of the road jedi."
IF you get visibility...
"Jedi is a lotttt longer. If you think the village is long and boring and you complain and hate it then you shouldn't even go for jedi."
I wouldt go so far to say: "if you hated the village dont go for Jedi." Many will agree with me and say grinding with a light-sabre is all
worth it.
"jedi get hunted a lot especially if you are weak and considered an easy mark. So jedi can be a real long grind with many setbacks."
It can be alot of setbacks, but do it right and people wont even know your a Jedi before your template is done. I know Jedi's who has
made it WITHOUT getting visibility.
..and no Im no Jedi.
Puma103
Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:37 am
#13
when you think about it, its only a grind if you make it that. You dont have to work really hard grinding to get anywhere in this game, it just gets you there faster, usually. Granted, getting the fs xp is probably one of the most boring things in the world, it is also probably easier than getting through jedi. But i'd think that being a jedi would also be extremely fun nonetheless. It's possible to take your time and go at your own pace.Jedi grinding might take longer but it can't possibly be as boring as spamming grenades at a lair for two weeks straight.
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