Fencer Archive
Thread: What a crock of Acklay poo
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PoohBreath
Thu Apr 22, 2004 10:59 pm
#1
The Acklay baton is bugged. Min > Max or not. What people do not seem to realize is that it IGNORES ALL DAMAGE MIT. So my unarmed unarmed toughness and melee mit III are worthless. As an expiriment, I got a friend to use a Power Hammer on me, this is a 300-600 (roughly) Power hammer. Skull slam hit for around 175 a pop. Whereas an Acklay baton, with AP0 vs the PH's AP2 was whipping my ass for over 300 a pop. BTW, the Acklay baton was 107-173 dmg. Or something like that. and as a reference, a sliced regular stun baton @ 92-133 was hitting me for around 66 a shot.
MrChow_Sai
Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:18 am
#2
what special did the fencer use? and what's the stats on the PH. note the PH has a very low Range Mods so he can hit.
Kia-san
Fri Apr 23, 2004 3:27 am
#3
How is your stun baton bugged? its 107 min to 173 max?
Were you testing with armor? were you using Stun armor? and what percent if any?
PoohBreath
Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:12 am
#4
It's bugged such that it hits twice as hard as a weapon with has AP2 vs AP0, and does 3 times as much dmg. Both were using thier most powerful attack.
PoohBreath
Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:13 am
#5
Just so everyone knows, I picked about the crappiest Acklay baton I could find to prove a point.
EviLSiTH666
Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:08 am
#8
If you put some stun armour on and or an imperial shield gen. you would find most acklay stun baton's would do next to no dmg....
PoohBreath
Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:49 am
#9
Ok, let's try real hard to grasp what I'm saying. I wore no armor so I would get an unbiased comparison of damage done. I use a PH cause it's an extremely powerful melee weapon, and with the AP2, and myself not wearing armor, it does about 60% greater dmg than a weapon of AP0 with the same dmg stats. THE ACKLAY BATON IGNORES ALL DAMAGE MITIGATION. That's all that this post is proving. If it could be done, or if someone was willing to make a regular baton with the same damage as an acklay, i can only assume that one would find that the regular baton would do about 18th the DMG. BTW, buffed, I can take shot after shot from a master fencer with a gaffi stick, and laugh at him/her.
Stormbilly
Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:53 am
#10
Just so you know....I'm pretty sure the Power Hammers are bugged so that the AP isn't working. Or at least isn't always working. I know the AP on my PH doesn't get calculated against any mob with vulnerability to blast, only works on things that have resistance to blast.........try doing same test with a scythe and the stun baton and see if there are similar results.
Just a thought.
Alastor_Ragna
Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:20 am
#11
First : you dont get any bonus with AP2 or AP3 weapons if youre hitting a unarmoured enemy , thats the thruth live with it .
Second : you should NEVER get a bonus using a AP2 weapon Vs AR1 armor , its just plainly buged , that only rolls to see if the damage goes on or get reduced , NOT UP'ed.
Third : You got youre ass whipped by a fencer didnt you?
Fourth : Go troll another forum please , move along now young padawan , you are not certified to post in this forum...
TheGreatOne00
Fri Apr 23, 2004 8:49 am
#12
PoohBreath wrote:
The Acklay baton is bugged. Min > Max or not. What people do not seem to realize is that it IGNORES ALL DAMAGE MIT. This is not true, its not the baton, it is the attack that ignores mitigation
So my unarmed unarmed toughness and melee mit III are worthless.When being hit with scatter hit 2 yes they are. I dont agree with this and do think it needs fixed.
As an expiriment, I got a friend to use a Power Hammer on me, this is a 300-600 (roughly) Power hammer. Skull slam hit for around 175 a pop.Like I said before, its the special used, not the baton.
Whereas an Acklay baton, with AP0 vs the PH's AP2 was whipping my ass for over 300 a pop. BTW, the Acklay baton was 107-173 dmg. Its all about the specific fencer move thatgoes through all mitigation and toughness. AP2 makes no difference and gives nodamage bonusagainst an unarmored person.
Or something like that. and as a reference, a sliced regular stun baton @ 92-133 was hitting me for around 66 a shot. I know I hit for a lot more than 66 before acklay batons were put in, so I have to call BS, or atleast that you were not using the same special as when using the other baton.
thee_ferret
Fri Apr 23, 2004 9:46 am
#13
Yes... please try this test out again using an attack other then scatter shaik and you will find different results. All of the scatter shots are bugged right now (Carbine: scattershot2 TKA: Combohit1, Combohit2, Fencer: Scatterhit2) They all ignore all kinds of defensive buffs, this means no unarmed toughness, no lightsaber toughness, no damage mitagation, no blocking, no counterattacking, no melee defense, no ranged defense, no dodging, and no synthasteak. Sucks don't it?
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