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Thread: How to beat a running Riflesman?

LergTHEbutcher
Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:53 am
#1

Im wearing a 35% stun helmet and i cant seem to kd him, i use Scatter Hit 2. Hes a Master Rifleman/Fencer 0/4/0/4

Im 4/4/1/4
GabrielsSword
Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:14 am
#2

Well you kind of answered your own question. I don't see a knockdown in your template. I'll speculate your using Master Brawler and Lunge 2. The rifleman has taken the KD/Posture Down defense line of fencer to shore up his defenses against it. If he takes the anti KD food Thakillo (spelling) it will be even tougher. I've seen that add as much as +90 to Knockdown defense for 10 min.. Once you make Master Fencer I believe your added accuracy should help. If you can somehow intimidate him (his intimidate defense will be much lower) it should also give you a better chance to KD as it will lower his defenses. Your opponent has chosen wisely to include this in his template. If KD does not work, attempt posture down (Lunge 1). Yes he'll still be able to attack you but it'll give you a chance to get close enough to attack.

To give you time to close the gap between you and him...think seriously about tweaking your template to try and make the rifleman's job a little tougher. Try to increase your ranged defense to 125 (the cap atm) by taking from another melee profession. If you do not have a ranged attack think seriously about getting Master Brawler to increase your KD range with Lunge2.

Possible Template:
Master Fencer
Master Brawler
TKA 4304 (meditate away poisons/disease, powerboost, additional state/melee/ranged defenses)
Scout 4000 (unless the rifleman as the same he will not be able to outrun your burst run)
Medic 2040 (heal bleeds and be able to use Stim Ds)

Good Luck



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Falric
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:01 am
#3

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Your best bet in dealing with a sniper, is to use lunge 1 an lunge 2, one or the other will land pretty quick. Followed by dizzy if your able to. The only problem is that depending on what the player eats you better bet KD food isn't always on the list in pvp engagements. Most likely its something esle to boost the mind or something expessly for a rifleman.
Khalil-Gibran
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:10 am
#4

Refuse to be kited...


Don't run after him, make him come to you... Hide behind harvesters/houses/trees or inside buildings if in npc cities, anything you have to to make him come closer, then, once he is close enough... all of the above
eveready9999
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:12 am
#5

Kd food doesn't work against lunge, different timer, different effect.



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Logitition
Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:23 am
#6

Slam CoB...


Then spam that intimidate till it sticks. If he is on the run and there is nothing u can hit him with use that burst run to get a lunge off...


Dizzy him after u place that successfull lunge... he falls.. u can blind him for incase he gets up and with a good baton u literally can attack his health bar and kill him.


If the dizzy keeps missing u will be in trouble. best u can do is get him down and use blinds between the dizzy tries. u HAVE to keep that intimidate on him as much as possible... If u have int2 u will be knocking alot off that defence. if he survives the burst run and u still cannot get him to pull over.. u better find shelter. get hime to go into tight spaces..



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TalusianRogue
Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:13 am
#7

warcry is a brawlers defense against kiters, now. Aye, it was nerfed, but it still has a coupla uses.



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SuGeRo
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:55 pm
#8

yo Lerg! master fencer and get the rest of the stats. make them chase you. run into a building or something. dizzy2/lunge 1 spam scatter2. get your brandy and moun gold ready also. wear only helm/chest/boots. make sure they're not too far. well thats what i use anyway. i hope it helps. biggidy blu blah!!!
comandobob
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:45 pm
#9

I use COB all the time , against rifleman i use lunge 2 in master bralwer 20m kd then i dizzy him it has worked every time




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ruehs
Thu Apr 15, 2004 2:51 pm
#10

oh,oh....I got this one.....best way ever....works everytime...


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oh yeah...line of sight is a big help also



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Shadusdarkmour
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:02 pm
#11

Never ever play into him kiting. If he kites take cover and make him come to you. Once you got him in range burst run then dizzy. Remeber he cant burst run if hes dizzy. From here blind posture change intimidate knockdown etc. Once you got the stats you want on him follow up with scatter 2 and watch the ham bars. If health strts to drop rapidly switch to one hand body 3 as he doesnt have a stun resistant chest plate. Also prepar ahead of time take sythsteak and air cake as it should make you near impossible to hit.



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Vincentarasin
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:18 pm
#12






eveready9999 wrote:
Kd food doesn't work against lunge, different timer, different effect.







Wrong flat out.



Kd works on the lunge2 (KD) lunge 1 is different.



You dont belive me? stackist, then go get Kd'd by a tk, then get lunge2'd, wont work. Kd is one timer, Posture change is another.



As for beating a rifleman, just like a previous poster said, dont fight him, go inside a building, I stick to theed, and use the med-center alot, when I get a kitist, I go inside, generally go up a level or two.



that FORCES them to come onto your turf, putting them at a dis-advantage and lowering their accuracy a fair ammount, I have never been killed by pure rifleman, inside the med center like that, now, cm/rifleman.. dif story.




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volta
Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:23 pm
#13

There is more to this game than pressing F1-F12 and good templates. Learn the surroundings, draw the rifleman to you.. Be patient. I sit in cantina's/ticket corridors/bank areas, REFUSE to chase a rifleman.




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