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Thread: Master Swordsman vs. Master Fencer, Who Wins?

Lammer
Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:08 am
#1

yeah i kinda wanna know also





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WolfGuy
Sun Dec 14, 2003 2:30 am
#2

I have dabbled a bit in fencer and a bit in swordsman, and i would say the swordsman would win pretty handily based on shear damage dealing. Fencers can do some nice state effects, dizzy/posture change can lead to a knockdown, but having a little experience in both i think swordsman would come out on top. I could be wrong.




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Ruh
Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:34 am
#3

i was talking about this with a friend. i think the swordsmen would have a good chance if they got a goot bleed off. i think at masterbrawler/swordsmen 0443 i could take a straight master fencer bc of KD/delay...and even if you dont go that route u can give them a nasty bleed and mind hits that cant be healed.....well it can..but it only helps us.



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Trung
Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:12 am
#4

if its a fencerpistoleer with the huge dodge they get the fencer wins easy. Ive fought quite a few of these and they all kick my ass. Never actually fought a pure fencer.



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TheRealJaster
Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:36 am
#5

When I was a Master Swordsman I dueled my guildie many times who is a fencer.... He got owned. I'm pretty much the only one that can take him out due to the amount of damage that a Swordsman does not to mention our uber bleeds. And even IF they are Master Pistoleer/Fencer dots go through dodge so just stack your mind bleeds let it tick and tap him once... doesn't really matter.
TheRealJaster
Sun Dec 14, 2003 5:37 am
#6

Just to clarify.. He's a MASTER fencer and there aren't too many people out there that can beat him in duels so I'd say Swordsman would definitely come out on top.
M0G4N
Sun Dec 14, 2003 6:19 am
#7

If only one of them has master brawler, that one will win.


If they both have master brawler, its a toss up between who is better "seasoned" in melee combat.




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Denzo
Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:40 am
#8






Aisle wrote:
I was curious as to who wins this battle based on your experiences as I am currently undecided as to which I want to persue.




I dueled a Heavy, both fully armored (I heard he has a 92% composite), fully buffed. I tried everything. I stacked bleeds, I dodged almost every attack, I blinded, I intimidated, I did EVERYTHING. In the end he won because the only attack that could really hurt him was bleed. And all he had to do was heal. He mind bled me, and it was overt.I was using a Gaffi stick2??-313and I think that I might have won if I had a stun baton. I don't were to get a stun baton though =/. It was a all out duel. The only rule was no pets. We were playing for DB to. Swordsman mind bleed is very strong but if we were unarmored I really think I would have won hands down, thats why I need a stun baton.



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TaimaishuYun
Sun Dec 14, 2003 8:59 am
#9






Denzo wrote:





Aisle wrote:
I was curious as to who wins this battle based on your experiences as I am currently undecided as to which I want to persue.




I dueled a Heavy, both fully armored (I heard he has a 92% composite), fully buffed. I tried everything. I stacked bleeds, I dodged almost every attack, I blinded, I intimidated, I did EVERYTHING. In the end he won because the only attack that could really hurt him was bleed. And all he had to do was heal. He mind bled me, and it was overt.I was using a Gaffi stick2??-313and I think that I might have won if I had a stun baton. I don't were to get a stun baton though =/. It was a all out duel. The only rule was no pets. We were playing for DB to. Swordsman mind bleed is very strong but if we were unarmored I really think I would have won hands down, thats why I need a stun baton.




dont EVER use a graffi on composite...baaaaad idea, either use a vibro blade or stun baton





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Baiir
Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:05 am
#10

i am both a heavy swordsman (0433) and a fencer (2000). I dont know too much about fencer, but with a little bit of their defense (44 melee dfense in total) i cant ussually beat them. When i fight master fencers with lots of PvP experience it comes down to wether we can heal (if so i win) and how many of my attacks hit, oh, and who lands the first warcry.


When i am master swordsman (with 4000 fencer and 4004 tka) i will be able to beet them easily, Right now i use both fencer and swordsman skills when fighting though. The main advantage you guys have is that you attack fast, you can intimidate+blind+dizzy+kd/posture lower in 2 seconds i think (4 seconds if the 1 sec time cap is in right now). Swordsman dont get dizzy or blind, and to just do intimidate it can take a couple seconds. If your opponent doesnt heal or isnt buffed fencer is very strong in pvp, if opponent heals and is buffed and wears armor though.. the swordsman is king (mind dmg+mind bleeds+medium armor piercing+high dmg hard hitting weapons). Even with both cantina buffs it doesnt take me long to go through a persons mind at 400-700 a hit (no armor) and maybe 250 with armor.

RunemonIV
Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:07 am
#11






Denzo wrote:





Aisle wrote:
I was curious as to who wins this battle based on your experiences as I am currently undecided as to which I want to persue.




I dueled a Heavy, both fully armored (I heard he has a 92% composite), fully buffed. I tried everything. I stacked bleeds, I dodged almost every attack, I blinded, I intimidated, I did EVERYTHING. In the end he won because the only attack that could really hurt him was bleed. And all he had to do was heal. He mind bled me, and it was overt.I was using a Gaffi stick2??-313and I think that I might have won if I had a stun baton. I don't were to get a stun baton though =/. It was a all out duel. The only rule was no pets. We were playing for DB to. Swordsman mind bleed is very strong but if we were unarmored I really think I would have won hands down, thats why I need a stun baton.




stun baton > composite



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Aisle
Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:00 pm
#12

I'm curious as to who wins this battle based on your experiences as I am currently undecided as to which I would like to persue.
Aisle
Sun Dec 14, 2003 1:02 pm
#13

I was curious as to who wins this battle based on your experiences as I am currently undecided as to which I want to persue.
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