Fencer Archive
Thread: CoB Answers
Minerunner
Wed Aug 04, 2004 8:22 am
#66
Further on Air Cake, I'm trying to set up tests that will prove a bug I think I've found.
If someone can do a metrics test for me I'd greatly appreciate it.
The bug is...
If Melee Defense is greater than 125
Then Melee Defense buffs subtract not add to Melee Defense
However they show as if they are adding...
Example:
Melee Defense = 151 / 171
In reality when calculated it uses...
Melee Defense = 131 for the calculation.
If someone can do a metrics test for me I'd greatly appreciate it.
The bug is...
If Melee Defense is greater than 125
Then Melee Defense buffs subtract not add to Melee Defense
However they show as if they are adding...
Example:
Melee Defense = 151 / 171
In reality when calculated it uses...
Melee Defense = 131 for the calculation.
Haschel
Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:02 pm
#67
Well, first, Pistoleer doesn't give you block, it gives you dodge, but I'm pretty sure you already knew that, since you're trying to def stack. I'm somewhat certain that DA is unarmed only, just like block/dodge/counter are specific to the other melee professions. It seems to not improve your odds of performing a d/b/c, but gives you odds instead, if that makes any sense. Can anyone confirm this?
Haschel
Wed Aug 04, 2004 1:35 pm
#68
You've still got Defensive Acuity as a TKA, so you have a chance to Dodge.
samijx
Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:29 am
#69
Haschel:You're right, I was talking about dodge. Anyway, if fencer can get dodge, I'd think that DA would work with Fencer, and thus I thought it would work with pistoleer. I've done no specific tests, but I do have my combat tab always open. As I've advanced in TKA (0 4 4 4 ) now, I do seem to dodge much more. I was novice fencer, but recentlydropped it, but I still havesome pistoleer dodge skills. I guess I need to run some tests with my character now, and then compare it with advancing in pistoleer dodge skills.
I'm trying to develop a jedi killer template and I hear the only real defense against a jedi is not getting hit. This seems to be the best way to do that...but if it doesn't work, then I'm back to the drawing board. I like the fact that TKA can mind hit, and then if my opponent (Jedi or otherwise) decides that they are loosing, then I can eyeshot at ranged and finish off their blue pool. (Maybe I'm an optiminst?)
I just thought of something. If I have my VK's equipped, and my only dodge skills comes from pistoleer....then if I dodge at all, does that add credence to my theory?
samijx
Thu Aug 05, 2004 7:13 am
#70
Hummm...
Where can I find out more about defence acuity? All it says is that it improves the ability to dodge/block/counterattack.
If my dodge skills are 0% then a 50% increase in my dodge ability will still be 0% right? heck...a 10000% increase will still be 0%. That's why I persured a profession with dodge, so that I'll have a base dodge score that DA can multiply.
What you're saying is that DA will actually raise 0% to some higher %. Not as a multiplier but simply as an additive property? Where can I find out exactly how this works?
Please feel free to tell me where I'm way off base.
Thanks
ruehs
Mon Aug 09, 2004 7:34 pm
#71
samijx wrote:Hummm...Where can I find out more about defence acuity? All it says is that it improves the ability to dodge/block/counterattack.If my dodge skills are 0% then a 50% increase in my dodge ability will still be 0% right? heck...a 10000% increase will still be 0%. That's why I persured a profession with dodge, so that I'll have a base dodge score that DA can multiply.What you're saying is that DA will actually raise 0% to some higher %. Not as a multiplier but simply as an additive property? Where can I find out exactly how this works?Please feel free to tell me where I'm way off base.Thanks
The thing of it is, is that everyone has a chance to dodge/block/counter attack. What each corresponding profession's bonus does is improve on one particular one to enhance. Seeing as Fencer/Pikeman/Swordsman add to those three, DA makes it so a TK has more of a chance to do any of them. So DA improves a little on all of them.
The way I believe DA works is first a roll is made against your DA skill, if you get a successful roll your character then makes a roll to see if you Dodge/Block/Counter Attack. With Fencer/Pikeman/Swordsman it only checks your Dodge/Block/Counter Attack skill.
CoB enhances DA just like the other ones, it is a little less noticable due to the fact it does all of them so you can't really get a good look to see it enhance just one of the other three.
Gusamoto
Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:11 am
#72
Whats going to happen with CoB when i think its patch 10 i dunno a upcoming patch u will not beable to loop macros so therefore cob will be useless.
Eenee
Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:32 am
#73
Patch 10 is out and I can still loop this macro. Also here is what the gentleman said where he was describing the macro:
Gusamoto wrote:
Whats going to happen with CoB when i think its patch 10 i dunno a upcoming patch u will not beable to loop macros so therefore cob will be useless.
It's not the COB macro you want in your toolbar but the /Toggle switch in your toobar. Just wanted to clarify that.
After assigning all these macros, type "/alias ToggleCoB /macro COBOn" and then drag the COB macro to your toolbar. The first time you press it it will turn your CoB loop on, the second time you press it it'll turn the CoB loop off.
Stisrabet
Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:34 am
#75
I have submitted 2 bug reports and 3 petitions for a fix to my toon. I am redirected everytime and case closed. I have an alt who displays none of these problems. I am warping with chat lag. By the forums I am due one free unlock. All this is since i had a bug preventing me from going covert from a recuiter. I could declare but when I attempt to go covert with a recuiter it didn't give me an option. Now the village guy doesn't give me the unlock option and the lag and warping all started about the time of the fix. This is NOT client side I am tired of the run around! In-game Stisrabet! This game has become unplayable and I am sick of the **edit** anwsers I get. Go look at the forums or contact tech support. I am the customer you contact tech support or read the forums. I refuse to get the run around. Screw the unlocks even I just want tto stop warping and having chat problems! I had a csr come to me in-game and fix something and look now sure i can declare and undeclare at will now but takes me a month to get there! FIX MY TOON TODAY! All weekend I put up with this because CSR was to lazy to read my full petition! Instead I get referred to these crap Forums and in Chat when servers crashed CSR held chat hostage for the entire time saying they wouldn't allow spam! Also they wouldn't anwser questions they are so busy holding chat hostage! I say look into these errors today! 2 women decide to lock down a chat room is BS and they know it!
Maybe this is the wrong page but it will be posted until I get a fix. I am not a teen looking for someone to listen I am a man who works for the money I pay! Worst Csr on the planet. In the division of Sony I work I would be fired on the spot for Service like this and why have CSR in-game "help" it is a waste! I am a fencer so this post does belong here!
ruehs
Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:07 pm
#76
Stisrabet wrote:I have submitted 2 bug reports and 3 petitions for a fix to my toon. I am redirected everytime and case closed. I have an alt who displays none of these problems. I am warping with chat lag. By the forums I am due one free unlock. All this is since i had a bug preventing me from going covert from a recuiter. I could declare but when I attempt to go covert with a recuiter it didn't give me an option. Now the village guy doesn't give me the unlock option and the lag and warping all started about the time of the fix. This is NOT client side I am tired of the run around! In-game Stisrabet! This game has become unplayable and I am sick of the **edit** anwsers I get. Go look at the forums or contact tech support. I am the customer you contact tech support or read the forums. I refuse to get the run around. Screw the unlocks even I just want tto stop warping and having chat problems! I had a csr come to me in-game and fix something and look now sure i can declare and undeclare at will now but takes me a month to get there! FIX MY TOON TODAY! All weekend I put up with this because CSR was to lazy to read my full petition! Instead I get referred to these crap Forums and in Chat when servers crashed CSR held chat hostage for the entire time saying they wouldn't allow spam! Also they wouldn't anwser questions they are so busy holding chat hostage! I say look into these errors today! 2 women decide to lock down a chat room is BS and they know it!Maybe this is the wrong page but it will be posted until I get a fix. I am not a teen looking for someone to listen I am a man who works for the money I pay! Worst Csr on the planet. In the division of Sony I work I would be fired on the spot for Service like this and why have CSR in-game "help" it is a waste! I am a fencer so this post does belong here!
UMMMM what makes you think posting this in the fencer forum will get it looked at? Please stay on topic for this thread.
Danstar_Gunman
Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:20 pm
#77
ok what if i use CoB then do a weapons transfer to a rifle....would i still get the d bonus till it wore off?
Minerunner
Wed Dec 08, 2004 1:02 pm
#78
Unlikely I believe the combat accounting checks weapon in hand each time it calculates modifiers. But this is unproven other than the delay will last.
However I do recall getting hit insanely often while Fencer Cob'd after switching from bleed attack to a two handed sword back when I was re grinding that. So I think that supports my original statement.
However I do recall getting hit insanely often while Fencer Cob'd after switching from bleed attack to a two handed sword back when I was re grinding that. So I think that supports my original statement.