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Thread: A Fencer pwned my Jedi Knight. Hilarious

MasterPilot11
Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm
#53

MY GOD!!!


If you think fencers are so godly and uber, i hate to say this because there are already enough of us but...BECOME ONE!!!!


If you really think we are soooo good, just make a fencer character!!





Kazz Alow- changing professions atm
Kazzalow- Master Swordsman / Master Teras Kasi / Master Brawler

Behold the power of the wookish
ruehs
Fri May 21, 2004 5:31 pm
#54






Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:


Between You, LovelyJulez, and Patrick, that is what you are doing. You came here in a different thread to try and get fuel for your thread in the Jedi Forums that you had deleted. Patrick came here complaining in this thread about us Fencers. And LovelyJulez is now helping both of you. As far as my age, look in my profile, it's all right there.




You assume things without proof other than your own misguided thoughts of negativity. You believe that because you are a Fencer and I am not that these forums somehow belong to only you. I never made a thread complaining about Fencers. I made one asking a mature and serious question until trolls such as yourself decided these are YOUR forums and I dont have a right to post here because if I do its because I am trying to get Fencer nerfed. So I had it deleted.


As if Devs would nerf Fencer because of what someone writes on these forums lol. If Fencer gets nerfed its because the majority of players feel that it needs to be nerfed and to keep players happy they will do what is necessary.


As far as your profile, it means nothing. Anyone can type anything they want in there such as they work for Nasa ect..


I wasnt asking for your age. It was meant as commenting on the maturity of your trolls on others posts if comprehended CORRECTLY. But its obvious you have comprehension problems and only wish to see things in YOUR way because YOUR opinion is right and everyone elses is WRONG.










So you pretty much asked a rhetorical(you do know what that means right). And last I knew Fencers are one of the least damaging professions in this game, I mean only one, that's right one AP weapon that does little to no damage. Our one viable PvP weapon needs Looted components to make it worth the HAM cost of it, not to mention it is AP0.


About the Forums.....they made seperate profession forums for each profession so each person that is that profession can go to the forums to get advice, discuss, and even complain. I feel that Jedi's that have a problem should go to the Jedi forum to discuss, complain, get advice. But be it as it may, you guys come to the Fencer forums to complain about your profession, even though you think that you are complaining about Fencers.


Every Jedi that has posted about getting "Pwned" by another profession, in the respective professions forums are taking the fight there for no reason, you will not find comfort here, go to YOUR profession's forums and deal with it there. Have YOUR forum's Corrospondent address the issue with the dev's.




Macross//Ashrak
On 7/2/04: Virrago said... On 6/23/04 Jeassa said: Now see....
Dragunsoul
Fri May 21, 2004 5:47 pm
#55






ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:


Between You, LovelyJulez, and Patrick, that is what you are doing. You came here in a different thread to try and get fuel for your thread in the Jedi Forums that you had deleted. Patrick came here complaining in this thread about us Fencers. And LovelyJulez is now helping both of you. As far as my age, look in my profile, it's all right there.




You assume things without proof other than your own misguided thoughts of negativity. You believe that because you are a Fencer and I am not that these forums somehow belong to only you. I never made a thread complaining about Fencers. I made one asking a mature and serious question until trolls such as yourself decided these are YOUR forums and I dont have a right to post here because if I do its because I am trying to get Fencer nerfed. So I had it deleted.


As if Devs would nerf Fencer because of what someone writes on these forums lol. If Fencer gets nerfed its because the majority of players feel that it needs to be nerfed and to keep players happy they will do what is necessary.


As far as your profile, it means nothing. Anyone can type anything they want in there such as they work for Nasa ect..


I wasnt asking for your age. It was meant as commenting on the maturity of your trolls on others posts if comprehended CORRECTLY. But its obvious you have comprehension problems and only wish to see things in YOUR way because YOUR opinion is right and everyone elses is WRONG.










So you pretty much asked a rhetorical(you do know what that means right). And last I knew Fencers are one of the least damaging professions in this game, I mean only one, that's right one AP weapon that does little to no damage. Our one viable PvP weapon needs Looted components to make it worth the HAM cost of it, not to mention it is AP0.


About the Forums.....they made seperate profession forums for each profession so each person that is that profession can go to the forums to get advice, discuss, and even complain. I feel that Jedi's that have a problem should go to the Jedi forum to discuss, complain, get advice. But be it as it may, you guys come to the Fencer forums to complain about your profession, even though you think that you are complaining about Fencers.


Every Jedi that has posted about getting "Pwned" by another profession, in the respective professions forums are taking the fight there for no reason, you will not find comfort here, go to YOUR profession's forums and deal with it there. Have YOUR forum's Corrospondent address the issue with the dev's.






Last time i checked...(let me check again...) Yep the thread says A FENCER pwned my Jedi Knight. Being that its about Fencers I see no reason why this person shouldnt be able to make a thread here. You dont own these forums. If I want to make a thread on here talking about Dancer I can and would.


Fencers are supposed to be one of the least damage dealing professions in the game because of the defense they have to make up for it.


Are they currently low damage dealers? No. And to say that you either dont pvp or are just lying out your ass.


Stun batons have ap0 blah blah blah. Whats your point? Stun is considered a special damage type becuase its the least resisted. Stun batons have no problem against ppl wearing comp armor without stun resist and even if they have stun resist on their armor it still cuts right through.


All I hear from fencers is "just get some stun armor and a personal sheild gen and stop whining" Why should we have to get special armor and a shield gen just to have defense against you? Are you special? Hell not even Jedi gets a special damage type.


To say that Fencer isa low damage dealer is b.s. Even with a normal stun baton I had no problem doing damage to someone wearing full comp and now the added stun batons with acklay bones just makes it worse. You say does everyone have 400 damage stun batons? No. But on my server all the pvp fotm Fencers have good acklay stun batons.


Oh and lets not forget the scatter bug as mentioned before.


Does fencer need a nerf? I didnt say that. Does it need to be fixed? I do believe so. If it were working as intended I dont think we would see the amount of complaints we see.


ruehs
Fri May 21, 2004 5:50 pm
#56






Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:


Between You, LovelyJulez, and Patrick, that is what you are doing. You came here in a different thread to try and get fuel for your thread in the Jedi Forums that you had deleted. Patrick came here complaining in this thread about us Fencers. And LovelyJulez is now helping both of you. As far as my age, look in my profile, it's all right there.




You assume things without proof other than your own misguided thoughts of negativity. You believe that because you are a Fencer and I am not that these forums somehow belong to only you. I never made a thread complaining about Fencers. I made one asking a mature and serious question until trolls such as yourself decided these are YOUR forums and I dont have a right to post here because if I do its because I am trying to get Fencer nerfed. So I had it deleted.


As if Devs would nerf Fencer because of what someone writes on these forums lol. If Fencer gets nerfed its because the majority of players feel that it needs to be nerfed and to keep players happy they will do what is necessary.


As far as your profile, it means nothing. Anyone can type anything they want in there such as they work for Nasa ect..


I wasnt asking for your age. It was meant as commenting on the maturity of your trolls on others posts if comprehended CORRECTLY. But its obvious you have comprehension problems and only wish to see things in YOUR way because YOUR opinion is right and everyone elses is WRONG.










So you pretty much asked a rhetorical(you do know what that means right). And last I knew Fencers are one of the least damaging professions in this game, I mean only one, that's right one AP weapon that does little to no damage. Our one viable PvP weapon needs Looted components to make it worth the HAM cost of it, not to mention it is AP0.


About the Forums.....they made seperate profession forums for each profession so each person that is that profession can go to the forums to get advice, discuss, and even complain. I feel that Jedi's that have a problem should go to the Jedi forum to discuss, complain, get advice. But be it as it may, you guys come to the Fencer forums to complain about your profession, even though you think that you are complaining about Fencers.


Every Jedi that has posted about getting "Pwned" by another profession, in the respective professions forums are taking the fight there for no reason, you will not find comfort here, go to YOUR profession's forums and deal with it there. Have YOUR forum's Corrospondent address the issue with the dev's.






Last time i checked...(let me check again...) Yep the thread says A FENCER pwned my Jedi Knight. Being that its about Fencers I see no reason why this person shouldnt be able to make a thread here. You dont own these forums. If I want to make a thread on here talking about Dancer I can and would.


Fencers are supposed to be one of the least damage dealing professions in the game because of the defense they have to make up for it.


Are they currently low damage dealers? No. And to say that you either dont pvp or are just lying out your ass.


Stun batons have ap0 blah blah blah. Whats your point? Stun is considered a special damage type becuase its the least resisted. Stun batons have no problem against ppl wearing comp armor without stun resist and even if they have stun resist on their armor it still cuts right through.


All I hear from fencers is "just get some stun armor and a personal sheild gen and stop whining" Why should we have to get special armor and a shield gen just to have defense against you? Are you special? Hell not even Jedi gets a special damage type.


To say that Fencer isa low damage dealer is b.s. Even with a normal stun baton I had no problem doing damage to someone wearing full comp and now the added stun batons with acklay bones just makes it worse. You say does everyone have 400 damage stun batons? No. But on my server all the pvp fotm Fencers have good acklay stun batons.


Oh and lets not forget the scatter bug as mentioned before.


Does fencer need a nerf? I didnt say that. Does it need to be fixed? I do believe so. If it were working as intended I dont think we would see the amount of complaints we see.








Wait for the Jedi revamp then, see what happens. Good-bye.



Macross//Ashrak
On 7/2/04: Virrago said... On 6/23/04 Jeassa said: Now see....
ruehs
Fri May 21, 2004 6:03 pm
#57






Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:


Between You, LovelyJulez, and Patrick, that is what you are doing. You came here in a different thread to try and get fuel for your thread in the Jedi Forums that you had deleted. Patrick came here complaining in this thread about us Fencers. And LovelyJulez is now helping both of you. As far as my age, look in my profile, it's all right there.




You assume things without proof other than your own misguided thoughts of negativity. You believe that because you are a Fencer and I am not that these forums somehow belong to only you. I never made a thread complaining about Fencers. I made one asking a mature and serious question until trolls such as yourself decided these are YOUR forums and I dont have a right to post here because if I do its because I am trying to get Fencer nerfed. So I had it deleted.


As if Devs would nerf Fencer because of what someone writes on these forums lol. If Fencer gets nerfed its because the majority of players feel that it needs to be nerfed and to keep players happy they will do what is necessary.


As far as your profile, it means nothing. Anyone can type anything they want in there such as they work for Nasa ect..


I wasnt asking for your age. It was meant as commenting on the maturity of your trolls on others posts if comprehended CORRECTLY. But its obvious you have comprehension problems and only wish to see things in YOUR way because YOUR opinion is right and everyone elses is WRONG.










So you pretty much asked a rhetorical(you do know what that means right). And last I knew Fencers are one of the least damaging professions in this game, I mean only one, that's right one AP weapon that does little to no damage. Our one viable PvP weapon needs Looted components to make it worth the HAM cost of it, not to mention it is AP0.


About the Forums.....they made seperate profession forums for each profession so each person that is that profession can go to the forums to get advice, discuss, and even complain. I feel that Jedi's that have a problem should go to the Jedi forum to discuss, complain, get advice. But be it as it may, you guys come to the Fencer forums to complain about your profession, even though you think that you are complaining about Fencers.


Every Jedi that has posted about getting "Pwned" by another profession, in the respective professions forums are taking the fight there for no reason, you will not find comfort here, go to YOUR profession's forums and deal with it there. Have YOUR forum's Corrospondent address the issue with the dev's.






Last time i checked...(let me check again...) Yep the thread says A FENCER pwned my Jedi Knight. Being that its about Fencers I see no reason why this person shouldnt be able to make a thread here. You dont own these forums. If I want to make a thread on here talking about Dancer I can and would.


Fencers are supposed to be one of the least damage dealing professions in the game because of the defense they have to make up for it.


Are they currently low damage dealers? No. And to say that you either dont pvp or are just lying out your ass.


Stun batons have ap0 blah blah blah. Whats your point? Stun is considered a special damage type becuase its the least resisted. Stun batons have no problem against ppl wearing comp armor without stun resist and even if they have stun resist on their armor it still cuts right through.


All I hear from fencers is "just get some stun armor and a personal sheild gen and stop whining" Why should we have to get special armor and a shield gen just to have defense against you? Are you special? Hell not even Jedi gets a special damage type.


To say that Fencer isa low damage dealer is b.s. Even with a normal stun baton I had no problem doing damage to someone wearing full comp and now the added stun batons with acklay bones just makes it worse. You say does everyone have 400 damage stun batons? No. But on my server all the pvp fotm Fencers have good acklay stun batons.


Oh and lets not forget the scatter bug as mentioned before.


Does fencer need a nerf? I didnt say that. Does it need to be fixed? I do believe so. If it were working as intended I dont think we would see the amount of complaints we see.








Wait for the Jedi revamp then, see what happens. Good-bye.





Exactly, in which comes to my point of argument with you. Trolling anothers posts saying that they are just complainers and whiners doesnt make you any better.


If your point is "wait for the Jedi revamp, then see what happens". Why cant you just say that instead of flaming someone?






Why must Jedi's start posts about THIER profession being broken in anothers forum.



Macross//Ashrak
On 7/2/04: Virrago said... On 6/23/04 Jeassa said: Now see....
Dragunsoul
Fri May 21, 2004 6:14 pm
#58








ruehs wrote:




Why must Jedi's start posts about THIER profession being broken in anothers forum.





Umm I dont see anything in this persons original post about Jedi being broken. Maybe you should read it again. The problem is, you just want to see it the way you want to see it regardless of the persons true intentions. Just like the thread I created asking fencers to list their stun batons. I dont remeber saying anything about Jedi being broken in that thread either. And even if someone did want to make a thread on here complaining about their profession, whats it to you? Are you the forum police?
ruehs
Fri May 21, 2004 6:19 pm
#59






Dragunsoul wrote:








ruehs wrote:




Why must Jedi's start posts about THIER profession being broken in anothers forum.





Umm I dont see anything in this persons original post about Jedi being broken. Maybe you should read it again. The problem is, you just want to see it the way you want to see it regardless of the persons true intentions. Just like the thread I created asking fencers to list their stun batons. I dont remeber saying anything about Jedi being broken in that thread either. And even if someone did want to make a thread on here complaining about their profession, whats it to you? Are you the forum police?






And you seem to want to post in another professions forums to make it seem like it is overpowered. I do not post on the Jedi forums about how I got owned by a 4/4/4/4 Jedi. So why do Jedi's feel the need to come here and complain? And if you had any reading comprehension you can see that this thread was started as a complaint. Maybe you need to brush up on your reading comprehension.



Macross//Ashrak
On 7/2/04: Virrago said... On 6/23/04 Jeassa said: Now see....
Dragunsoul
Fri May 21, 2004 6:25 pm
#60






ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:








ruehs wrote:




Why must Jedi's start posts about THIER profession being broken in anothers forum.





Umm I dont see anything in this persons original post about Jedi being broken. Maybe you should read it again. The problem is, you just want to see it the way you want to see it regardless of the persons true intentions. Just like the thread I created asking fencers to list their stun batons. I dont remeber saying anything about Jedi being broken in that thread either. And even if someone did want to make a thread on here complaining about their profession, whats it to you? Are you the forum police?






And you seem to want to post in another professions forums to make it seem like it is overpowered. I do not post on the Jedi forums about how I got owned by a 4/4/4/4 Jedi. So why do Jedi's feel the need to come here and complain? And if you had any reading comprehension you can see that this thread was started as a complaint. Maybe you need to brush up on your reading comprehension.




This person is a paying customer and can post anything he or she wishes. You dont have more of a right to these forums than this person just because you are a Fencer.


There are people that come to the Jedi forums complaining all the time. Do I troll them? No. Do I tell them to go back to their own forums? No. Am I in charge? No.


Why do Jedi feel the need to come here and complain? Why do you feel the need to ask? Its none of your business why.


You sure as hell didnt mind trolling my thread even though it had absolutley nothing to do with complaining or nerfing fencer in any way.


ruehs
Fri May 21, 2004 6:30 pm
#61






Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:








ruehs wrote:




Why must Jedi's start posts about THIER profession being broken in anothers forum.





Umm I dont see anything in this persons original post about Jedi being broken. Maybe you should read it again. The problem is, you just want to see it the way you want to see it regardless of the persons true intentions. Just like the thread I created asking fencers to list their stun batons. I dont remeber saying anything about Jedi being broken in that thread either. And even if someone did want to make a thread on here complaining about their profession, whats it to you? Are you the forum police?






And you seem to want to post in another professions forums to make it seem like it is overpowered. I do not post on the Jedi forums about how I got owned by a 4/4/4/4 Jedi. So why do Jedi's feel the need to come here and complain? And if you had any reading comprehension you can see that this thread was started as a complaint. Maybe you need to brush up on your reading comprehension.




This person is a paying customer and can post anything he or she wishes. You dont have more of a right to these forums than this person just because you are a Fencer.


There are people that come to the Jedi forums complaining all the time. Do I troll them? No. Do I tell them to go back to their own forums? No. Am I in charge? No.


Why do Jedi feel the need to come here and complain? Why do you feel the need to ask? Its none of your business why.


You sure as hell didnt mind trolling my thread even though it had absolutley nothing to do with complaining or nerfing fencer in any way.








It's called intent. You made that thread in hopes of gaining information for later use as "facts" to help you.



Macross//Ashrak
On 7/2/04: Virrago said... On 6/23/04 Jeassa said: Now see....
Dragunsoul
Fri May 21, 2004 6:36 pm
#62






ruehs wrote:




It's called intent. You made that thread in hopes of gaining information for later use as "facts" to help you.





Again, are you the forum police? Are you a judge? How do you know what someone elses intentions are? Your just going on YOUR thoughts and flaming them.


I think that the twin towers incident was intentionally created by our own government but do I write letters to the president telling him it is? No. DO I have proof? No. Its my opinion. Just like yours is that someone is intentionally doing it to get your profession nerfed. Its not a fact. You have no proof.


And again, so what? If I came on here and blatently stated Fencer sucks and needs to be removed from the game does it make you a better person to troll my post and flame me?
RaijinE
Sun May 23, 2004 1:37 pm
#63






Fetei wrote:





DarthVillanus wrote:

There is only 1 way a fencer will own a Jedi Knight/guardian who is wearing stun armor and a psg. That's if the fencer has a 800+ stun baton, which are rarer than 199 dmg, -9 force pearls. For a fencer to get such a baton, he will have to loot some exceptional acklay bones over 500/500.








i can tell from personal experience you're wrong and are either bad at pvp or talking out of your ass..


here is how you can beat a guardian guaranteed

get a 90%composit helmet..rest of the armor 80%kin if you're a poor guy..you can just stim-B that damage

drink 2 brandies...eat a canape...get dancer buffs..and ofcourse add in a moun gold

so now youhave a mindpool of around 3500 with a great regeneration rate..and a 90%kinetic helmet to protect your head,oh yeah don't forget that lovely synthsteak with 40% reduction


now the guardian will always go for the mind since the other pools are easily healed...here is the kicker...thanks to your melee damage mitigation he will be hitting your head for around 60-120 damage per hit (yes with a 1600 damage saber,not a training saber funny guy) BUUUUUUUUUT.........

you will ofcourse activate your center of being skill...use blind on the jedi...and this will make him miss you 19 out of 20 hits..so now you that your defense is okay..let's look into offense...AHH the lovely bugged scatterhit2



(( the way for a jedi to counter this is to intimidate you...but unlike the brawler intimidate...ours is a force power(mind-blast) that can be dodged by your COB and the accuracy affected by blind..it will costs us 200 force to use or we can use force-intimidate (costs 400 force so a bad choice)..that gets quite costy since we have to use it about 10-20 times before it sticks(based on luck or bad luck) and we need that force power to spam headhit ))


you're spamming intimidate/blind/dizzy/posture change/scatterhit2 on the jedi with your 400 dam acklay baton...trust me.. you will be hitting for about 300-600 damage...not 30-60..ofcourse he could be eating synthsteaks wear a psg and stun armor..but imperial PSG's don't work half the time and if they do you demolish it in a few hits and the synthsteak effects eventually wear off

the jedi will have 2 options..forcerun2 away or die a horrible death to a overpowered FOTM profession





Wow, I guess you could call that an easy way. To me it seems that is one hell of a fight and both fighters new what they were doing. I think that when two extremely talented fighters get together it is going to go either way. Think about it. A master of Tae Kwon Do is going to have a huge technical advantage over some one that is in UFC. But someone that has been street brawling for the entire life at the level of competition is going to have a shot at taking down the Tae Kwon Do guy. When two good fighters get together anything can happen if they both know what they are doing.

D3st0r
Sun May 23, 2004 2:05 pm
#64






RaijinE wrote:


Wow, I guess you could call that an easy way. To me it seems that is one hell of a fight and both fighters new what they were doing. I think that when two extremely talented fighters get together it is going to go either way. Think about it. A master of Tae Kwon Do is going to have a huge technical advantage over some one that is in UFC. But someone that has been street brawling for the entire life at the level of competition is going to have a shot at taking down the Tae Kwon Do guy. When two good fighters get together anything can happen if they both know what they are doing.





So you're saying that a Swordsman should be able to defeat a Dark Jedi Master 1vs1?





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AelricMistrider
Sun May 23, 2004 2:19 pm
#65

I'm surprised this topic is still alive with all the finger pointing and flaming going on. It's obvious Jedi players are ticked about being smacked around by a hybrid fencer and the Fencers are ticked because the Jedi want them to be nerfed.


Sure, Jedi are great and powerful and awesome and whatnot, but I don't think they should be the be all-end all melee type profession. If anything the Teras Kasi should be more of a match for a Jedi than a Fencer, but this is SWG, where things that are supposed to be, usually aren't.


I just think there are better things we can discuss than nerfing a profession that is balanced and working and the ills they are supposedly bringing the hyper elite class of warriors in the galaxy. I personally think there are other classes that cause more problems than fencer hybrids, but that's just my opinion.






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