Fencer Archive
Thread: PETITION: To make a fencer weapon AP1 or stun baton AP1.
McFlyGuy
Thu Aug 05, 2004 9:05 pm
#55
Stun Batons definately don't need ap1. If your asking for it your whining that you can't do damage in PvP.
Those things couldn't pierce a marshmellow yet alone armor.
But I do agree that fencers do need an AP1 weapon. I mean just look at them. They're swords. Most of the weapons should already have ap1. Curved swords, rykk sword and maybe the gaffi stick. Its just plain obvious.
Haschel
Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:07 pm
#56
There's something unenjoyable about doing 300 damage a hit max against a 240k HAM creature due to armor rating and kinetic resistance (fscking Corvette...).
Need alternate damage type/something else with light AP at least.
Planetstalker
Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:38 am
#57
First of all its really "one-handed" not fencer as in swasbuckler,( that just one of the lines of fencing (we are much more verstile thanthat) so batons are fine imo
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Instead of asking for a ap1 in existing weapons why not ask for a new one, rifleman has gotten several, and pike, sword and pistoleer also some, time for fencer and carabineer to get one (tkm has that razor thing if it comes back out
) My choice would be some kind of ap1 energy (or elec, but thats invading pike/bh domain) weapon, wether it be a baton, a whip or maybe some double dagger thing with one point sticking out on each side. Very much a fan of it beeing ap1 as oppsed to ap2 as fencer is about speed and acc not power in the trusts. Let the swordsmen/pikemen be the savages with their enourmous weapons (I do like pikeman tho).
Well anyways energy ap1 is probably the most common damage in game so it wouldn't ruin anything. Make it a a lootmade schem like all the new additions with some loot better than others as cubes/de10 barrels. Maybee it could use one of the geo cores even eigter reinforced or swordcore (reinforced it not used yet so better be that - making it some kind of baton probably).
Well thats just my two pennies getting something new instead of changeing something thats allready there (and energy dmage would be a nice addition to us also).
Veiroi
m Fencer/bh
.Instead of asking for a ap1 in existing weapons why not ask for a new one, rifleman has gotten several, and pike, sword and pistoleer also some, time for fencer and carabineer to get one (tkm has that razor thing if it comes back out
) My choice would be some kind of ap1 energy (or elec, but thats invading pike/bh domain) weapon, wether it be a baton, a whip or maybe some double dagger thing with one point sticking out on each side. Very much a fan of it beeing ap1 as oppsed to ap2 as fencer is about speed and acc not power in the trusts. Let the swordsmen/pikemen be the savages with their enourmous weapons (I do like pikeman tho).Well anyways energy ap1 is probably the most common damage in game so it wouldn't ruin anything. Make it a a lootmade schem like all the new additions with some loot better than others as cubes/de10 barrels. Maybee it could use one of the geo cores even eigter reinforced or swordcore (reinforced it not used yet so better be that - making it some kind of baton probably).
Well thats just my two pennies getting something new instead of changeing something thats allready there (and energy dmage would be a nice addition to us also).
Veiroi
m Fencer/bh
superbike
Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:20 am
#58
they should work on putting an ap1 sword up in the boxes of fencer similar to the scythe. maybe a mini scythe. it shouldnt be the same output as a scythe. swordsman should be about all out damage application. maybe a half damage or 2/3 damage of a scythe at half the speed or 1/3 of the speed of a scythe. i dont think a stun baton should have ap (in reality it is in my mind a rounded tube type barrel that vibrates and people whack others on the head. but i do think stun baton should have an automatic stun application and be a mind attack. i dont see how a stun baton would be a stun baton if it whacks someone in the knee caps. it should attack directly at the head and apply stun state)
McFlyGuy
Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:12 pm
#59
superbike wrote:
dont think a stun baton should have ap (in reality it is in my mind a rounded tube type barrel that vibrates and people whack others on the head. but i do think stun baton should have an automatic stun application and be a mind attack. i dont see how a stun baton would be a stun baton if it whacks someone in the knee caps. it should attack directly at the head and apply stun state)
Ain't gonna happen... I'd think a bigass hammer coming down ontheir head would be alot better for giving them headaches.
Fireborn123
Sat Aug 07, 2004 2:19 pm
#61
Better than that, mayby give us a new ability that is an armor piercing ability. think about it, real life fencers use the point of their swords to pin point the weak spots on enemies. fast, precise attacks that leave little DEAP holes. thats the true idea of a fencer, finesse over strength. just give us an ability. either way
/sign
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Breatai
Sat Aug 07, 2004 4:27 pm
#62
Treeyn wrote:
This would be great,when I am trying to kill somone with a stun baton and they have armor and a psg,I can do no damage at all.So I have to pull out my janta knife and use its dot,AP1stun baton or a new AP1 weapon would be very helpfull in PvP.Thanks for your time.
/sign
Message Edited by Treeyn on 08-02-2004 06:40 AM
so basically you got owned one to many times and now you want ap1 weapons...never mind the fact that fencer owns in PvP 9 out of 10 times..so now cause soem guy with syntasteak and psg and stun armor doesnt die in 5 secs you want a AP1 weapon??
ROFLMAO...Im sorry..maybe you should go play a commando or MBH and then come whine about getting owned in a fight for the first time in 6months..You must be a Jedi or jedi in training..either way your whining for no reason..
General_Reedy
Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:32 pm
#63
Stop whining. We're supposed to be strictly defensive and only minor in the damage area. All we needed from release was to be able to defend ourselves in some manner. Now we can. Our damage has always been just fine the way it is. The big problem you all should be looking at is Armor - composite is way too strong.
EDIT: Also, AP1 does not currently do jack diddly squat in PvP. So this petition is pointless.
Message Edited by General_Reedy on 08-09-2004 01:33 AM
Godrick
Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:22 am
#65
you can get the black metal gaffi with ap1, but it doesn't do much damage got like 168 unsliced.