Fencer Archive
Thread: A message for all the Fencer's who will be leaving after this patch!
Teebacca
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:35 am
#40
FallAM wrote:
and yet, the rule of the rifleman still applies. I made the super fencer template to defeat riflemen and cm's.... I suppose I will still get some of them, but not all.
Um, riflemen don't use a broken special to win in PvP, what do they have to do with this, riflemen work as intended? I personally don't care ifscatterhit got fixed or not, I had no trouble with most fencers. I just think it is funny that all the jedi have gone fencer since the patch to be uber, but they are in for a rude awakening HAHAHAHA, lolz on you!
Wolf_Scout
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:46 am
#41
Nagabacca wrote:
Some people repying in this post do not have a clue, at all.
Moron go try rifleman/cm
bye bye bye
FallAM
Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:40 pm
#43
Straker_Atrella wrote:I guess I am missing what I was suppossed to see there. He counterattacked your Cho moks, he counterattacked your shiaks as well.The Publish notes were very clear about fixing attacks that bypassed toughness. No mention at all was made about Dodge or any other defense.
The screen shot is "pre-nerf"
He countered 100% of my attacks but I still incapacitated him, after doing 2-3 scatter shiaks. Therefore, scatterhit2 ignored his counter and the damage was still applied.
and to whoever asked that was with a bugged 405min stun bat.
KnightHawk420
Wed Jun 30, 2004 6:08 pm
#44
I always laughed at fencers. The only special thing I ever noticed was that they were difficult to hit. Otherwise I'd just keep running spamming HeadShot3 and win the day eventually. FOTM... this had to be the weakest FOTM I ever heard of, especially considering rifle/doc / rifle/cm still rules the game.
TheStarWarsKid
Wed Jun 30, 2004 8:27 pm
#45
If you cant deal with the fact that you aren't "Uber" with this patch, then you should leave. That's all I have to say.
(and it was probably too much lol)
(and it was probably too much lol)
Rizzaka
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:54 pm
#46
Okay, here is the thing about rifles. They have at master a speed bonus of 90, much like we fencers achive. In my own PERSONAL view rifles even at a master level should still be slower than a master pistoleer. As it stands now if I recall correctly a carbineer get around 75 speed at master and a pistoleer around 64, now i may have those numbers reversed as i've never mastered any ranged prof. Regardless i feel the problem comes from a rifleman running around with a T21 in hand hitting you with ANY special or non special with max speed. I'm not putting in a plea for a nerf here, don't take it like that. I'm just trying to bring everyone to the realization that hey, riflemen rock because they can stand up and use an AP3 weapon like we use any of our arsenal at master.
anyways, sorry to bump this thread. Comense arguements.
anyways, sorry to bump this thread. Comense arguements.
Neige
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:48 am
#48
i had a post along these lines on the "in concept" thread.
Fencer weakness :
- very low damage
- reduced damage types
- best weapon ugly
Fencer strenght :
- high speed and accuracy
- very high defence
- awesome fighting style
I feel Fencer in itself is a balanced class BUT :
Problem 1: Damage dealers are as fas as us because of their speed bonus and the speedcap mechanics.
Problem2: Our High defense is worthless against high end MOBs
We can all chant the mantra "Everything will be adressed by combat balance... OOOOooommmm"
Digitalphobia
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:53 am
#49
realvorda wrote:
FallAM wrote:Here we go, notice the 10 cho mok's... and then notice where the cho moks turn to scatter shiak, then reference the incapacitation.Exhibit A
damn, what kind of an insane weapon do you have to do those numbers of dmg?
Wait this is wrong. The damages are just simply too consistently close. Cho Mok always hit at 900s and Shiak-brah hit at 700s at 100% of that time. Which mean the game is not taking account of minimum and maximum damage difference. Yep. This is definitely done with bugged baton. I never used it before, but my attacks always varies significantly more.
Q
Digitalphobia
Thu Jul 01, 2004 2:04 am
#50
Hey,
I am sorry I was wrong. I checked my data. It does not show anything conclusive.
Q
I am sorry I was wrong. I checked my data. It does not show anything conclusive.
Q
TheJawaJubbo
Thu Jul 01, 2004 5:30 am
#51
well i'm a new master fencer and even with this change i will keep the prof. its by far the most fun one i have played. i',m also master pistoleer and have been since i began playing, so its obvious i don't just do the profs with the biggest hitting weapons 
just use tactics boys and girls.
FallAM
Thu Jul 01, 2004 1:02 pm
#52
Digitalphobia wrote:
Hey,
I am sorry I was wrong. I checked my data. It does not show anything conclusive.
Q
Reading is awesome. Yes, the bat used in my screen shot IS bugged (thought I was going to say WAS didnt you)
