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Thread: i got hit for....
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MattaiTrickster
Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:32 pm
#27
ya i also noticed that lol. how does a city go about doing that? i wanta inform my mayor on how its done.
Vincentarasin
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:46 pm
#28
Simple, lots of female twi-leks
342 max baton = my jedi pimpwadin stick.
Fury, isnt scatter2 a 4x attack?
Lord_Anakin
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:59 pm
#29
DarthVillanus wrote:
Lord_anaken wrote:
From the tests i've done, the bugged batons go right through the PSGs.
Lol what tests? Do you even know what a bugged baton is? It ignores damage mitigation because the min is higher than the max, it doesn't affect anything else. If you want your psg to work right you have to unequip and re-equip it everytime you take a shuttle or go into battle.
I've been pvp'ing as a fencer when you were crying about gnorts being hard to kill so don't try that argument. Yes it ignores mitigation, but those w/o mitigation (aka ranged) who are using a PSG properly (ie re-equipping after taking a shuttle) get no help from the PSG. This only happens when combining a bugged baton with scatter. It's sporatic but duplicable.
How's that crow tasting?
Logitition
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:17 am
#30
U are WRONG lord..
The only bug that scatterhits use is ignoring toughness and a minor calc in armor. A PSG helps ranged users. A 'bugged' baton ignores the mitigation. With only ranged mitigation u would notice a huge difference than a melee master is all..
There COULD be another bug, but it is not the bug of which they are speakin here..
realvorda
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:41 am
#31
ps: all multi pool dmg attacks (scatterhit, combo, scatterblast,..) also ignore all defences...
didnt you see the jedi's all whine when their master defenders would get hit all the time with scatterblast? thats the main reason why they eventually fixed it..
Straker_Atrella
Wed Jun 23, 2004 2:53 pm
#32
Also people tend to forget/leave out little details like if they were on the ground and such.
I use Scatter Hit a lot, simply because it is the only way to hit mind. Quite often, I fight people with great stun protection, where I hit for less then 100. I then switch to my Gad because it hits harder.
Also the numbers over your head are the true numbers, not what you see in the combat log.
KnapweedD
Wed Jun 23, 2004 6:35 pm
#33
Why do all these posts assume the guy is a moron? Is it not just as likely he actually knows what he is doing, was wearing a sliced PSG and effective stun layered armour and was SURPRISED he got hit for so much. Maybe that's why he posted.
SweetShotArch
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:20 pm
#34
D3st0r wrote:
My full suit of armor is 42%/37% stun 90% base and ive got a sliced PSG, and I'll tell you right now, never have I ever been hit in pvp with a stun baton for 70dmg, dont know what you guys are going on about or where you're pulling these numbersfrom (I'm guessing you picked them up in the magical land of Oz?) but guarantee you right now, if Fencers are so damn weak in PvP with stun batons then I'd be suprised as hell, considering that every second person I see on any given base raid has -center- over their heads and a black stick in their hands, funny that so many people would play a profession that is so incredibly weak dont you think?
Sorry to all you fencers out there, but Destor is right, he is one of my friends and when i was fencer i could own his Jedi Guardian with Scatter2. He HAD a PSG on and HAD 42% stun armor and my baton (387-397) ripped him up for at LEAST 400 a swing. Scatter2 is bugged especially with a high minimum damage baton. Have you ever noticed Synthsteak doesnt stop any damage when your hit with Scatter2? Anyways have fun flaming.
DarthVillanus
Wed Jun 23, 2004 7:32 pm
#35
D3st0r wrote:
My full suit of armor is 42%/37% stun 90% base and ive got a sliced PSG, and I'll tell you right now, never have I ever been hit in pvp with a stun baton for 70dmg, dont know what you guys are going on about or where you're pulling these numbersfrom (I'm guessing you picked them up in the magical land of Oz?) but guarantee you right now, if Fencers are so damn weak in PvP with stun batons then I'd be suprised as hell, considering that every second person I see on any given base raid has -center- over their heads and a black stick in their hands, funny that so many people would play a profession that is so incredibly weak dont you think?
Sorry to all you fencers out there, but Destor is right, he is one of my friends and when i was fencer i could own his Jedi Guardian with Scatter2. He HAD a PSG on and HAD 42% stun armor and my baton (387-397) ripped him up for at LEAST 400 a swing. Scatter2 is bugged especially with a high minimum damage baton. Have you ever noticed Synthsteak doesnt stop any damage when your hit with Scatter2? Anyways have fun flaming
Ohhhh well if D3stor's friend says so, then D3stor must be telling the truth and not exhaggerating at all!
. Synthsteak adds natural toughness. That's why scattershot2 isnt affected by snythsteak because it goes through toughness.
. Synthsteak adds natural toughness. That's why scattershot2 isnt affected by snythsteak because it goes through toughness.If you have 42% stun armor and an imp psg and get hit for more than 150 dmg then you are doing something wrong. Fencers can't scratch me and I only have 39% armor and an effect sliced psg. I also have an exceptional, 700 dmg stun baton and have never ever ever ever ever hit someone for more than 150 dmg if they were wearing stun armor and a stun psg.
Obviously D3stor is distorting his factsor straight up lying out his ass and no amount of his friends verifying his story is going make any smart person here believe him. He's a jedi. Jedi hate fencers. Jedi will say anything they can to make fencers look bad. End of story.
Message Edited by DarthVillanus on 06-23-2004 07:33 PM
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Straker_Atrella
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:04 pm
#36
Why do all these posts assume the guy is a moron? Is it not just as likely he actually knows what he is doing, was wearing a sliced PSG and effective stun layered armour and was SURPRISED he got hit for so much. Maybe that's why he posted.
Knapweed
Because as Fury already showed, that would mean the person hitting him was using a 4k stun baton.
SweetShotArch wrote:
D3st0r wrote:
My full suit of armor is 42%/37% stun 90% base and ive got a sliced PSG, and I'll tell you right now, never have I ever been hit in pvp with a stun baton for 70dmg, dont know what you guys are going on about or where you're pulling these numbersfrom (I'm guessing you picked them up in the magical land of Oz?) but guarantee you right now, if Fencers are so damn weak in PvP with stun batons then I'd be suprised as hell, considering that every second person I see on any given base raid has -center- over their heads and a black stick in their hands, funny that so many people would play a profession that is so incredibly weak dont you think?
Sorry to all you fencers out there, but Destor is right, he is one of my friends and when i was fencer i could own his Jedi Guardian with Scatter2. He HAD a PSG on and HAD 42% stun armor and my baton (387-397) ripped him up for at LEAST 400 a swing. Scatter2 is bugged especially with a high minimum damage baton. Have you ever noticed Synthsteak doesnt stop any damage when your hit with Scatter2? Anyways have fun flaming.
Ok that's a perfect example right there. You have a 387-397 Stun Baton, there will be no variance at all, no "That was a high hit," or "that was a low hit," each hit will be very close to each other. Now call a CSR, have him watch your friendput on your 42% stun armor, and sliced PSG. Then hit him for at LEAST 400 every single swing. Since your baton has no variance, the "bug" will be easy to prove.
Perhaps Jedis need to nag for more accuracy, because the reason they hate Fencers is because they can't really hit us. It's just easier for some people to cry to Nerf other professions I guess.
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