Fencer Archive
Thread: My Complaint On Fencer
Minerunner
Fri Oct 01, 2004 7:13 pm
#27
Nek, Yes I know how extensive the Combat Upgrade is going to be.
In fact with the exception of hard statistical breakdown (which won't happen till the Sandbox anyway) I know or have access to the entire breakdown of changes. All some 50 pages of documents.
And you guys will get to see it all too... soon.
In fact with the exception of hard statistical breakdown (which won't happen till the Sandbox anyway) I know or have access to the entire breakdown of changes. All some 50 pages of documents.
And you guys will get to see it all too... soon.
Message Edited by Minerunner on 10-01-2004 07:14 PM
Rogue_Tal
Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:58 am
#28
You cant have everything u want, fencer lacks offense, thats what the devs intended, just like how swordsman lacks PvP ability
As I stated, I don't mind fencer lacking offense, but were not exactly super defensive either. We have nice defenses, yea, but we are nothing close to what we should be when compared to damage output. Seriously, when I have to rely totally on my DOT weaponary, which is extensive, and use my very nice batons only to scrape the paint off my opponent, who is is melee is definatly hits me, and if is ranged is hitting me 2 out of every 3 shots. Sorry, thats not exactly defensive.
Want to compare PvP Ability, fencer vs swordsman?
If I had used the Acklay Bones I have used on fencer weaponary, I would have among other things, an 1150 Powerhammer.
Coupled with max speed, and a CoB macro running, with Pikatta Pie, think about it. I'd be just as hard to hit, as a Swordsman, put I'd be hitting my opponent incredibly harder, busting through mitigation with easy. And I got news for you, maxxed speed + acklay powerhammer = yer dead.
Don't get me wrong - I love fencer, but other professions that deal incredibly more damage can easily become just as, if not more, hard to hit as us with food, and some basic SEAs.
I don't mind doing no damage, at all, but make the defenses more formidable. Or increase our damage output.
kimirahi
Sun Oct 03, 2004 9:57 pm
#29
Yep, with my 375-476 stun baton *best on server* I do roughly 30-50*Cho mok*dmg vs someone with stun armor, and melee mitigation. I end up doing more dmg to myself, very sad 
I have been fencer since september, I'm glad it's not FOM anymore, but damn give us something *AP1 on the stun baton would be fine*
Rogue_Tal
Sun Oct 03, 2004 10:22 pm
#30
I'm not saying I can't take a TKM solo, you misunderstand. The means of which I have to do so, I shouldn't.
And plus, if people don't wear stun, thats just foolish. Everyone on starsider wears atleast 39% Stun Armor, with 40% more from a PSG, and then 40% more from Synthsteak.
kimirahi
Mon Oct 04, 2004 6:03 am
#31
Stun armor and PSG do not stack. It's the PSG that helps since it has a higher resist.
Rogue_Tal
Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:29 am
#32
Then u have to get the 40% PSG, the 40% synthsteak, the 40% stun comp armor.
I use 43% Stun Armor, no PSG, and 44% Steak. 
This is why the devs gave us 250 skill points not 50. So we can combine skills. Do u ever see just a master fencer anymore? No.
Some of us, Doctors, can only have one mastered skill profession.
Anyways, the original point of this post was not to flame and burn the profession I love, but point out we need something, with AP1, or that better handles mitigation, because our damage output is horrible.
Dynastar
Mon Oct 04, 2004 9:57 am
#33
Unless its an insane looted weapons or DOTs, killing anyone solo in PvP is a challenge. Its not just Fencer, it's everyone.
RoadBurner
Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:11 pm
#34
Then u have to get the 40% PSG, the 40% synthsteak, the 40% stun comp armor.
This is why the devs gave us 250 skill points not 50. So we can combine skills. Do u ever see just a master fencer anymore? No.
I lately find myself using my 436max scythe to finish off opponents. Of course i use my 438max stunner too, but when i dont do any damage i whip out old bladey and beat the he11 out of them. Simply combine yur skills man. Im a fencer first, always will be, but when the going gets tough the blade gets going.
Rogue_Tal
Tue Oct 05, 2004 7:09 am
#35
I'm pretty sure I have some of, if not the best, on Starsider /shrug
Minerunner
Tue Oct 05, 2004 8:15 am
#36
Probably better than mine Tal that's for sure. I've still got my weapons from back when I went weapon shopping in December to replace the weapons I got when I went weapon shopping in September of last year. certainly no Akley bats.
But then again it's not for lack of trying... every time I've gone I've gotten booted out by people who could do far more damage.
But then again it's not for lack of trying... every time I've gone I've gotten booted out by people who could do far more damage.
Rogue_Tal
Tue Oct 05, 2004 10:23 am
#37
Oh, you think I killed the acklay with fencer?
heh...no.
I tanked the Acklay while my swordsman friend killed it, even with my acklay batons I can't put a hole in the Acklay. Well, I could, it just takes an exceedingly long time, and I certainly can't out damage a swordsman or rifleman pounding away at it. I evenwith maxxed 1h speed and accuracy too
And although I haven't tried it with my new baton, I have no desire too. If Cho Mokking for 2k each hit don't do it, I don't know what will heh.
Minerunner
Tue Oct 05, 2004 11:41 am
#38
No not saying you did. =) Just sayin' my piddly 280 Gaffi and 198 Stun ain't anywhere close to what you got.
Unless you wanna pass some of that good stuff on over it ain't gonna change anytime soon either. =)
Unless you wanna pass some of that good stuff on over it ain't gonna change anytime soon either. =)
RoadBurner
Tue Oct 05, 2004 12:43 pm
#39
^ listen to him
< u just need better weaps for better output