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Thread: Pettion: Fix the Vibroblade.
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Rro
Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:37 am
#27
Lets see...
Falric comes in here with real numbers obtained from taking his own time and running his own tests and keeping track of his own results with the only intent of possibly improving what was once a very respectable weapon which has indeed turned to crap over the past few months. All he wants is to get it fixed and return the vibroblade to the status it once had among some fencers. He hasn't attacked anyone and has argued his points respectfully.
Vincentarasin comes in here spouting crap and telling people they aren't master fencers or dont have good armor without any knowledge whatsover of the other person, the methods, the equipment, and has brought absolutely nothing substantial to the table to actually improvethe profession. He comes in here putting others down, calling people whiners, knocking other peoples tactics, templates, equipment and generally acting like an ass. This trend seems to continue in many of his posts throughout the fencer forum. His assumptions of other people and the wayhe treats themspeaks volumes abouthimselfand has reduced his credibilty to zero
Congratulations Vincentarasin. You get the troll of the week award! Now please go back to whatever bridge you crawled out from under until you can actually add something helpful to this thread.
Falric
Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:09 pm
#28
Vincentarasin wrote:You still cant read falric, Your scatterhits are doing 2-3x, why do people not understand this.
Scatterhit ALWAYS hits ATLEAST TWO pools, (They are random which) and in my experience has about a 35% chance of hitting all three.
Stun baton will perform the best aginst armor'd oponents comared to any other non-stun-damage weapon. Even if its stun armor, its maybe 20%? Stun averages higher (mine, your weapons clearly are low, that alk gaffi should be 450+) then the gaffi does.
Half your post seems to be a whine-complain about fighting a buffed opponent, I can tell ya right now, fighting unbuffed is stupid, you WILL lose aginst a buffed opponent, They can use attacks without real penalty, you cant. Tk's dont hit 300-500 every hit, im sorry, you need to get some armor.
As for Shilak, I think I know what Scatterhit does, Very few on my server use it because 'It sucks" Yeah, its lower said damage, but nobody THINKS, What does Armor matter? Stun damage, If someone is in stun armor, you kd/dizzy and run unless your a rifleman, Non-fencer/riflemans dont generally fight people fully armor'd anyway, its pointless buffed, they will regen their health faster then anyone can do it. PvP is all about the mind, Atleast on my server, If you dont have a mind hit (Or stun damage) Competing is very boring
Okay, I will respond to this with the best information I can give you. Although I know your intent is to bash me around with a wet noodle, well its not working to well be abit more orginal.... ^-^
Anyhow guys I am urging you all to keep this civial, polite an on topic. You do not attract dev's attention with naplam an bounty hunters. But you do with information an a bit of honey. ^-^
Anyhow Vin, I will ask you to do this, go out with a vibroblade into your servers PVP envorment. Go out an fight the rebels or imps what ever side your apposed to. Get into lots an lots of fights, an then come back with your combat data proving to me that the vibroblade is working as intended in player vers player combat. Do not, supply me with gaffi data, or rantok data or even stun baton data. I will know for a fact your lieing though your teeth, I have tested the vibroblade for over 2 months now, I know for a fact is not working in PVP as intended. Now after you have done this for me, post the data here. The lowest, average an highest damage you did like I did. Lets see how well your data stacks up. I will know how long you did you testing for by how well your data is presented. I been doing these tests for months!!!
Now vin, test out the stun baton, do the same testing as you did with the vibroblade. I know your server hasn't gotten the uber stun resistance composite yet, heck shadowfire's got some the best armors in the galaxies being produced.
Now vin, take the gaffi stick an phase it.. As you did with the others.. Tell me what did you get.
Oh yeah the last bit I forgot to ask. Please post your weapons speed, damage an type of weapon you used. This will give me an idea what you used how to caculate your acutal information approately....
Now for a bit more interesting information.....
1) The weapons I used are the best I can aquire form what I can afford. No weaponsmith on my server would consider using VIBRO motors for vibroblades as they ALL goto tka' vibroknucklers. An our Vibroknuckers on shadowfire are doing 240damage at 1.8 speed. The best vibroblades on our server are 2.6speed with 195 damage (no motors)
2) You realy think I can afford a 2-4 million cred alk-gaffi stick on our server that does over 400 damage. DANG dude our weaponsmiths most of the good ones are greedy as heck! Those that are honest, I always go back to an I am willing to even supply them with materials at incredibly low prices.
3) Vin, I am not aguring about what skill does what. I know what every fencer skill does an I understand how it works. You need not lecture me in I do not know what I am talking about. I been a fencer far longer then you, I been testing this infromation much longer then what I have posted. Now please take time to read the information an try the testing yourself. Thank you. ^-^
4) Vin, you said the stun baton will perform better agasit armored oppents. In most cases it can be true, but lately I phased tested a damaged upgraded gaffi with 328 max damage. It was actualy out damaging the stun baton by 25%. Due to the armor the oppenet was wearing had 35% stun resistance. Yes in most cases it can work better, but I been finding the higher damage of the gaffi is more able to tear though resisistances with ease.
5) Vin, as your comment about my posts being whine complain, you will loose if you fight a buffed oppenent. I find hightly amusing, I may loose alot of fights agasit buffed oppenets an seldom agasit unbuffed oppents. But wanna know something, I am more then able to kill a buffed player in a duel or in pvp. Heck, I took out a TKA/Riflemen whom was fully buffed while I poped a bit of muron gold, 2 brandies an fought it out with him in melee. He was in full composite, with 35% reistance to stun. He had 3856hp, 3200action and 2856mind. An oh yeah I wasnt even buffed, my current status was 1275hp, 1150 action 2780mind. Now if you are saying your as good as you think you are, could you do the same? I dout it by the way you speak an talk, I think you walk around 24/7 buffed. Its easy to kill when buffed an cheap wins. But victory an rubbing it in is when you defeat someone whom is fully buffed while your not. It shows whom has more skill an tactics remember that Vin.
6) On all servers most of the battles is won due to attacking your targets mind pool. Why do you think thier are so many tka's an rifleman, people want cheap easy wins. Half the tka's an riflemen are just far more skilless then a womprat. No affence to those tka's an riflemen whom are darn good my hats off to you.
Anyhow again I will state. The vibroblade needs to be looked into, I did more caculations recently an its a bit worse then before. ^-^ I don't even wanna post it.. =p
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