Fencer Archive

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Eldamacil wrote:

Hmm. Okay, interesting, I will try this while playing solo. Thanks to everyone who chimed in about bleeds. I do use them, but I don't often let the bleed do its work. Realize that I am typically out with a group, looking to inflict as much damage as quickly as possible to get xp, and sitting back with default attacks and two bleeds has never gotten me very far when everyone else is pounding away at the mob.

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This is true when fighting with a mob. But for me, I bleed them once, and then hit them with regulars and specials. I usually find that the bleed helps me out in the long run when reviewing combat chat.

Maybe you only use bleeds while in smaller groups and just go at it in larger groups?

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I will look into the various food items as well too. Can these be procured from the bazaar pretty reliably, or do they tend to be master chef concoctions?

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I've found it better to order a crate from a Master Chef. Something that I can carry around with me. So, I would say no, this is not something you should pickup from the bazaar. Also, if you get it from a Master Chef, you would obviously get a better quality product. (At least that is the case on Scylla.)

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Eldamacil wrote:
...can a Master Chef out there list the various foods that provide mind buffs, and give a decent high-quality average of the strength/duration of those buffs?

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I'm not a Master Chef (as you can see from my signature), but this is the forums post on the new foods coming out. Someone took the time to make them with whatever resources they had at hand, but you can see the general idea of what might help out. I'm sure with the right resources, the stats on these would improve tenfold:

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=chef&message.id=22022

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wickedHangover wrote:

i use 3 pieces of armor and swear by it. I use a chest plate, left arm bracer and boots. When i am hit, 99% of the time it is to one of these three pieces of armor, and at 80% kin, I can outlast just about anything.

When grinding fencer XP i never used spices or fought anything that I didn't think i'd beat.

Now that i've been master since dec 12 I use stim-b's regularly in battle and keep a muon at hand, i take on just about anything. As far as the biggest thing I've solod with this armor combo, I can say the only thing I've really tried was a regular kimo with 70k HAM. The key to winning that was in the muon gold as that thing trounced my mind. I also took a Blurg of some sort that had 70k HAM, much easier battle as he mostly did health damage so again, the muon helped as i fought i'd use stim-b's.

I used to use all ubese armor but have not found a really good set to compare with my comp armor. The trick was finding balance, using enough armor to cut down on the damage, but leaving enough HAM for using a limited number of specials.

As for specials, it depends what I'm fighting, but if i'm in a room full of tuskan chiefs, i make sure i dizzy them all and then knock a few down. Take a stim, bleed them, blind them, and i'm usually good---usually, the key word here. Granted if I wore a complete set of comp armor i'd prolly last better but adding more armor seems to do nothing more than kill me faster. I've tried fighting in my underwear, my dodge ain't that good and i tried in full 80% comp, that wasn't good either. So I started with chestplate and boots and balanced it with a left bracer.

If you watch your fencer fighting style, you'll see that he strikes with his right arm and blocks with his left. It was this that inspired me to use the left bracer. I tried left bicep, but adding just that one more item did nothing for me in the combat screen, in that I never saw that item being hit and it did more damage to my HAM pools than it was worth wearing.

Helmets are the worst. Fencers need all the mind they can get, so wearing a helmet is useless, in my eyes.

Pants are bad too, anything that restricts movement is a waste. If you think about it, the footwork column is the most important, so why would you hinder your footwork. your quickness and action are key to your dodge, if you hinder that, then it only makes sense that you would feel you need more armor. SO try to limit the amount of green you take away when you put your armor on.

As for the rest of the armor pieces, i don't see any need for right bicep or bracer, that's the arm you fight with so it makes no sense to hinder that arm with armor.

I would suggest a lt armor shirt with some skill tapes on it, a couple +1 melee defence or toughness never hurt anyone and these have no ham costs. Plus if you get some engineered ones you may get a bleed def built in.

In fencing I have learned this. To start out, no armor was the best but i also tanked with pets until 2/2/2/2. Then i used ubese armor, i was poor so the most i ever had was 50% kinetic. By 3/4/3/4 I started to use comp armor a lot, by master i learned that the only pieces i needed are the 3 i mention above.

Most important thing i learned, is the need to slow the battle down. You can go into battle against a kimo spamming body hit over and over. You need to bleed it, blind is worth more than it may seem and hit with the default strikes. Move around a little and keep that COB going. Practice this on the smaller things in the game so you get used to it. So go into the drall patriot cave, or the rogue corsec base and get a feel for taking out 6 guys on you at once. Then go to the garyn raider base near Narmle, Rori. Hit my store in my signature and then head over to the pygmy torton cave.

Once you have all this down pat and you are used to slowing the battle down and coming out with more health than you did before, then head to Dath and try the same techniques out on Rancors. Any fencer at 3/4/3/3 (if no lower) should easily be able to take out a rancor lair. If you can't, you need to rething your strategy.

We are the most powerful tanks in the game, that is an indisputable fact. There are players in other professions that may be better than you, but if you practice and hone your skills, you will find that having a balance of armor and strategy will make you better than them (unless they are some sort of wimp with a flame thrower)

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wow you **edit**ing retarded, do you understand that quickness and stanima DONT MAKE YOU RUN FASTER OR DODGE MORE, quickness affects action cost, stanima effects regeneration, and 70k HAM kimos are nothing, try soloing a NS ELDER, 350k-600k HAM, 100% resistant to a lot, **edit** good force powers, yah i solo about 4 or 5 a day and get **edit** good loot

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donnysabertooth wrote:

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im curious as to how you have 750 focus, zabrackscna only have 500 max, why are u lying man? you think its gonna make you look better, all i gotta say is **edit** untill you tell the truth

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Sheesh. That was a lot of space devoted to saying nothing. The "truth", friend, is that I slipped up: I was (and am) writing from work, and I obviously don't have my characters stats here in front of me. I was working from memory. I'm rather amused that you've chosen to harp on this one thing among all the constructive material that has been posted as a response. It was just an error, no need to say "**edit**".

Thanks for the link, Tyla. I'll definitely be seeking out Master Chefs near me in the near future. I think that I'll be searching out Ubese Armor, as described above, and saving the Composite for when I need to focus purely on defense.

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Rezael wrote:
My friend i will show you how to avoid mind costs.......

ok get Angerian Fishak Surprise(a crate or 30).
Muon Gold
Ryshcate
Breath of Heaven
get a bufff
Ok eat 2 ryshkate
and drink breath of heaven
go kill non-stop until your mind is low.
(this wont be for a while because your specials will cost around 7-10 mind per special)
after your mind starts getting a lil low pop teh muon.
and then fight some more...and kill some more, the muon will also up your regen so you will last even longer..specials should cost around 3 mind at this point.

ok now your hit with muon downer in the middle of your battle...your about to die right? Wrong, eat the fishak and get an extra 800 mind in one swift guzzle. but be careful about specials because the muon downer will bring special costs VERY HIGH.

Once Muon Downer is Over...rinse and repeat.

Rezael.

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This is very good advice....I do something similar but I made it all automatic...I made a macro that I call my "break glass to access fire hose" key. It uses a muon gold, sets 2 min, 1 min, and time-up Warning Timers and 15 seconds before the gold downer, auto eats the food and takes a drink to reinforce the loss during the downer...If I am able to stabilize the situation prior to food use I hit the abort key. It has turned a bad situation into a winning one many many times. With the new foods soon, choosing the right combos of them can sustain you in long drawn out battles.

Sorry not a veteran fencer but a veteran of staying alive as a Master Pikeman.

Jonah

GabrielsSword, you've anticipated me: I was just going to do a search looking for alarm-related macros. Since others seem to be getting use out of this thread, I'll just ask it here: how do you set alarms using keyboard commands? Do you place the Muon on a hotkey and have the macro call it from there, or is there a more general "/eat MuonGold" command or something? Whenever I use Muon I tend to set an alarm manually, but it's kind of a pain.

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Eldamacil wrote:
GabrielsSword, you've anticipated me: I was just going to do a search looking for alarm-related macros. Since others seem to be getting use out of this thread, I'll just ask it here: how do you set alarms using keyboard commands? Do you place the Muon on a hotkey and have the macro call it from there, or is there a more general "/eat MuonGold" command or something? Whenever I use Muon I tend to set an alarm manually, but it's kind of a pain.

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Here's what I do. I use a pane not shown as to not take any battle ready toolbar space. I use the F6 pane. Then I load the Muon in F1, Food in F2, and Drink in F3. You can add more food to the other F keys as you like to hit diff things if you want. Then I made the macro. Instead of tying it to an icon and taking up space I used keybind and assign a key to it. I use Ctrl+Alt+E for emergency hehe. I also bound a key to a /dump macro to stop the food usage and assigned it to Ctrl+Alt+A for Abort. Use whatever keys are comfortable to you. Now the macro goes like this starting from the F1 pane:

note: anything in () for explanation of line only and not in macro

/ui action toolbarPane05; (switches from Pane 1 to Pane 6)
/ui action toolbarSlot00; (use muon gold loaded in F1 slot of F6 Pane)
/ui action toolbarPane00; (returns to Pane 1 in blink of an eye)
/alarmAddIn 0 8 2 Minute Warning!
/alarmAddIn 0 9 1 Minute Warning!
/alarmAddIn 0 10 Times Up!
/pause 580; (waits 9 min 40 sec)
/ui action toolbarPane05; (switches from Pane 1 to Pane 6)
/ui action toolbarSlot01; (use food loaded in F2 slot of F6 Pane)
/ui action toolbarSlot02: (use drink loaded in F3 slot of F6 Pane)
/ui action toolbarSlot03: (use optional drink or food loaded in F4 slot of F6 Pane)
/ui action toolbarPane00; (returns to Pane 1 in blink of an eye)

Pauses may be need for lag here and there but this works for me. If anyone has even a better one I'd like to see it also.

Jonah

Bloody brilliant, sir. Hats off to you. That's a pretty nifty macro. The command that I was missing was the one to set the alarm from the keyboard; I didn't know that that was possible. I had been going in through the Options menu. Thanks for sharing your macro, I will likely make my own based on your template. (After I do some testing of the new Chef delicacies, of course.)