Fencer Archive
Thread: fencer vs. tk
Cibila
Fri Mar 05, 2004 1:49 pm
#27
Falric wrote:
maytrix-scylla wrote:
No where near those numbers, I am tkm/mfencer/mswordsman, my total melee/ranged is 156/129. As for stacking being contrary to strategy for PVP, I digress, it gives you an advantage this does not mean that you can just sit there and wait for auto attack to win the fight for you.
I can defeat most melee becuase of my offensive capabilites as well as my defensive capabilities, a tka main offensive is to use KD+DIZZY then spam UH3 or UHH, howver they are themselves vulnerable to KD+DIZZY so I use tka KD and then proceed to pound out their mind with my 2handed skills, even if they do get up, the mind cost for their attacks is higher than the ones for mine and they are basically on the short end of the stick as I am targeting threir mind.
Every melee class has advantages/disadvantages (expcept for pike, they really dont have much to hang on to). Te use of intimidate and state effects are absolutely necessary if you want to last against multiple enemies and a good melee fighter. Many people seem to think that the key is to just stack and then spam some attack, I gaurantee if you try this with a seasoned melee fighter you will lose.
Cibila
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Bkiddin
Thu Dec 02, 2004 12:10 am
#28
I am a fencer, (almost master) there have been alot of threads about fencer vs tk, what is better... i MUST find out already its drivin me nuts!
Atama
Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:57 am
#29
A 1K damage stun baton does the same damage against an armored person as a TKA with a 250 damage VK. 
OnlyMaestro
Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:07 pm
#30
TKA > All.
Fencer is tough though, very....they've got a lot of options and are easily templated for effectiveness.
Atama
Thu Dec 02, 2004 4:20 pm
#31
A Fencer needs a really powerful baton to even match what a TKA does.
HOWEVER, they have better defenses, so it balances out. I like Fencer, which is why I am one.
HOWEVER, they have better defenses, so it balances out. I like Fencer, which is why I am one.
tabman101
Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:54 am
#32
Eh... imma tkm/mfencer and i've gotta say... in PvP if somone is wearin' stun comp 40% or higher your stun baton only tickles your opponent but tk on the other hand rarely misses and with dizzy/kd,uh3 (and light ap) i'd place my money on the tk... what I usually do is look around for a good mind DoT 1h weapon and lay that on aguy and switch to tk
tabman101
Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:30 pm
#33
I use fencer mostly as a support profession but occainsaly I fight with it..but then again I have killer dodge and sweet ackley batons so its fun to use against jedi....but to go up against a tk whos most likely a defence stacker (ie those tkm/mfencer/mbrawlers) for example... you can trust you wont see a gaffi stick equipped lol
BloodMonk
Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:48 pm
#34
using a stun baton on a jedi is a bit retarded as gaffi's have MUCH better stats.
Fencers can also easily outdamage TKM's on jedi: fencer bodyhit3 has the same damage mod as TK unarmedhit3, but is pool specific.
Sly
ExCloud
Fri Dec 03, 2004 5:51 pm
#35
Simple as this - I have been both was mtka for about 4months or 6months and then mastered fencer and am still it. Nowbasically its a stale mate. Sometimes a TK wins sometimes a Fencer wins. both do not do high dmg output do to armor and PSGs. BUT - Fencer do get Dot weapons alot easier. So IMOP Stalemate.
b_ming
Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:30 pm
#36
BloodMonk wrote:using a stun baton on a jedi is a bit retarded as gaffi's have MUCH better stats.Fencers can also easily outdamage TKM's on jedi: fencer bodyhit3 has the same damage mod as TK unarmedhit3, but is pool specific.Sly
90% of people will use good acklay bones in a stun baton as it makes more sence in regular PvP. and unless u have a batton or gaffi of about 500 damage ur best bet with jedi is TKM as 200-250 VK's are easier to come by.
Atama
Sat Dec 04, 2004 4:36 am
#37
Ming is right, because you add your unarmed damage mod onto what your VK does, which means most TKMs do close to 300-450 damage with a VK. Even more with AP1, remember it does 125% damage against someone with AP0 like a Jedi, raising that damage score to around 375-560.
kypster
Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:07 pm
#38
Even though I still love TK. Fencer + DOTS >> TKM. I always see a janta knife with either poison or fire used on me, or I use on them.
BloodMonk
Sat Dec 04, 2004 8:06 pm
#39
I know people with 400 to 900 max gafii a 450 max will have double DPS on health vs a VK doing UH3
a 450 max will have double DPS on health vs a VK doing UH3and ap1 vs no armor (=jedi) does not give the 25% damage bonus.
Whenwego fighting knights/sentinels with the guild the fencers are ALWAYS the damage dealers....no way we TK could keep up with em...even with my NS VK and burnout sauce
Sly