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Thread: Ok heres a guide to beating a 4,4,4,4 Guardian

joe020681
Sat May 22, 2004 4:41 am
#27

Hmmm For some reason I just dont think any class should be able to one on one a 4444 guardian.A lightsaber should be able to cut that lil stun baton clean in half since apparently it cuts through metal , guns, etc in the movies. Or at least remove a leg/arm/head so you can't dodge as much lol



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LovelyJulez
Sat May 22, 2004 8:27 am
#28






ruehs wrote:





LovelyJulez wrote:

Its pretty simple and doesnt take alot ...


You will need a good set of 80%kin dmg armor and if you have psg that adds kin wont be bad.. now granted you can very this kin armor but least need 80% stuff


Couple Brandies/canape/canape/ DodgeFood


With the Dodge food you will be capt on Dodge.. if you have pistol tech line you will also of course have amazing def/dizzkd


Now approach jedi /wave /center /intimidate /scatter2 repeat until jedi dies


Why you will win this fight


cause he wont hit you ... if he does it wont be much.. and it wont be often....No matter how much STUN armor he has on him.. It wont protect him enough while hes intimidated and you usin a good dmg stun baton..


If you think this stupid and cant happen i encourage you to greet a 4,4,4,4 guardian and do exactly wat i said.. you might be suprised






You are also assuming that everyone has a 400max stun baton. I said this in the other thread, Fencer is working as intended, Jedi is not. Until they say Jedi is working as intended Be Gone.





Ok... i was exagrating on one thread.. however...i believein this post i said good dmg stun baton..if im not mistaken.. point is you don necessarlily kill jedi cause your offensivly better but defensively and can last longer.... must jedis even at this level will loose there fp.... trying to kill you
LovelyJulez
Sat May 22, 2004 8:37 am
#29






GabrielCreed wrote:

omfg, another jedi whining thread?

the fencer community as a whole should just start ignoring these. obviously theres no reasoning with them, and they think that just because their class is broken ours should be as well. going back and forth arguing with them thread after thread after thread is just validating them.







Did read my orginal Post??? Apperantly not... im not whining bout Jedi's infact i like to hun tthem and kill them.. I dont have one.. and mayby one day i will but not worried bout...


PPL keep gettin there info wrong and dont understand why fencers can kill jedi's so easily.... they say there to powerful they hit to hard.. has nothing to do with that but the fact a JEDI cant hit a FENCER....Least one thats knows half way wat hes doin


I was tryin to put factual information on to why this happens.. so that ppl can understand it.. has nothing to do with fencers being overpowered.. cause there not..


Only think i find stupid is that a 4,4,4,4 guardian can kill anyhing but a fencer..?? no offense but if they fenced each other most likely fencer would be limbless afterwards...


I just think little retarded is all...but I was just helpin other fencers know how to kill one.. cause its fun to show guardians there not all powerful

D3st0r
Sat May 22, 2004 2:48 pm
#30

After the revamp Jedi should be able to slaughter fencers with no problem, I'm betting that we're going to have like +300 Lightsaber Accuracy and never miss.




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MajorShane
Mon May 24, 2004 6:45 am
#31

isn't blind usefull? i take on whole lairs without losing any HAM except for HAM costs



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ccpeters
Mon May 24, 2004 8:17 am
#32


What is it with these fanatical PVP'ers??


Why do ya'll always insist on bringing all the other professions DOWN instead of raising the others UP??


If Jedi are getting their butts kicked by Fencers, which I too think is a little odd, then why not fix Jedi and raise them UP instead of insisting on bringing Fencers down?? How could that be a problem? If the PVP community continues on the path they've been following since last fall, all the professions will wind up as powerful as an Artisan with a CDEF weapon. Is that what you all want?


Get off your high PVP horses and use some common sense. Jedi's should be some of the most kick ass fighters in the Galaxy and, if they aren't that way now, they should be fixed to be brought UP to that level...........PURE AND SIMPLE.


Any other problems?



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AelricMistrider
Mon May 24, 2004 8:48 am
#33

They are getting brought up..that's why they get 2 whole publishes to fix their profession. So, in other words, suck it up, take your defeats like men, congratulate the fencer who beat you..AND WAIT FOR YOUR REVAMP.




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Dragunsoul
Mon May 24, 2004 8:50 am
#34






AelricMistrider wrote:
They are getting brought up..that's why they get 2 whole publishes to fix their profession. So, in other words, suck it up, take your defeats like men, congratulate the fencer who beat you..AND WAIT FOR YOUR REVAMP.






No only publish 9 is for jedi, publish 10 is for people who want jedi.
DarthVillanus
Mon May 24, 2004 9:24 am
#35


You know what I want for jedi?


1) Make saber block stop melee attacks


2) Give jedi alot of defense to states like dizzy and kd



And after they do this they need to


Bring back perma-death!



Message Edited by DarthVillanus on 05-24-2004 09:25 AM



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AelricMistrider
Mon May 24, 2004 9:53 am
#36

Well, they are both semi-jedi related and whatnot. I'll just be glad when things get fixed and the nerf cries will be stopped. But I guess that's wishful thinking.




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OditeFosore
Mon May 24, 2004 9:57 am
#37

Scatterhit may be up for consideration, but it is not considered bugged by the devs. There are severalhits from different professions that are not subject to mitigation and scatterhit is 1 of them. Look to 2h swordsmen, same scenario. This game is getting reworked as several have already said and it may change, but don't count on it. Instead look for jedis to get a lot of love in the jedi revamp.




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WarNerve5776
Mon May 24, 2004 10:02 am
#38

I'm a fencer/pistoleer and have attempted to kill a certain 4/4/4/4 Guardian on several occasions. Even intimidated he still managed to hit me a few times. After only two or three saber specials i was toast. I also was able to KD/dizzy him and somehow he always jumped right back up.



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smokeAcola
Mon May 24, 2004 1:46 pm
#39






ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:







ruehs wrote:





Dragunsoul wrote:





ruehs wrote:




Dragunsoul wrote:

And your proof that Fencer is working as intended comes from?


I thought so.


Be gone






Ok, it doesn't come right out and say Fencer is working as intended but it does say that Fencers won't see any dramatic changes. Here is the Click Heremade clicky style for ease of getting to the thread.




Ya and Ive also heard from many fencers about the scatter bug. And Ive seen it for myself as well. Working as intended?


Exactly, fencers wont see any dramatic CHANGES. That doesnt have anything to do with FIXING the issues it currently has.










So all you Jedi's that are getting "Pwned" by template stacking Fencers are really getting beat by Template Stacking Fencers(meaning be a multiple elite master) using ONE known BUGGED move(scatter hit 2). You are not getting beat by a PURE Fencer, but a TEMPLATE STACKING FENCER.


Now as far as the changes part, every, and I mean EVERY profession needs changes. Why don't you and your other Jedi buddies wait til after your JEDI REVAMP to happen to see if things get fixed. Until then anything a Jedi says is Null and Void of meaning, because they are getting reworked to make them the profession they WERE meant to be.





So you admit you know of the scatter bug. Which is funny considering you say that Fencer is working as intended.


Template stacking with what? The person is getting beat by a Fencer using their Fencer skills. Sure there are TEMPLATES as you put it, but thats not the issue here. Is anyone complaining about the Fencer beating them using doc skills? No. Or any other combination? No.


Yes every profession needs changes. I never said that Fencer was the only one. But Fencer is the number one profession that conflicts with Jedi even at high lvl.


Again you are assuming about the Jedi revamp. Noone knows exactly how jedi is going to be afetr the revamp. It could be better it could be worse.


Just because you think our opinions are null and void doesnt mean they are. Respect others opinions and maybe yours will be respected as well.


I treat people with the same respect they show me.



Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 08:31 PM


Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 08:31 PM





It is not just Fencer skills that you are complaining about though. Even though they might use a Fencer's weapon does that stop defenses from other professions from stacking...NO. Does it make it harder for the Jedi to beat a Fencer...YES. Like I said in the other thread, go complain on the Jedi forum's so YOUR Corrospondent can do something about it.





Again where do you see me complaining? lol . Whats your point about other professions stacking? The only profession with def mods that can possibly add any justice to Fencer is Pistoleer. And even without Pistoleer, Fencers have plenty of Dodge, and CoB and blind AND DODGE FOOD to make them practically unhittable.


Does it make it harder for a Jedi to beat a fencer? Not a Fencer that knows what they are doing. You dont need to stack other def mods from other profession when you have food in the game that can do all of that for you. you just have to know how to prepare yourself. simple as that.







With you statement about the only profession with def. mods that can add any justice to Fencers just goes to show how little you really know about this game.



I'm sorry but whoever said "can't find name through confusion" about template stacking is right, a jedi is not match right now for a template stacker. On another note everyone stop crying nerf and become the FLOTM if u can't stand being beaten by them, and if not wait till the long awaited combat revamp that damn TH has been leading us on this wild goose chase for it for months.




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