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Thread: Ok heres a guide to beating a 4,4,4,4 Guardian
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
With you statement about the only profession with def. mods that can add any justice to Fencers just goes to show how little you really know about this game.
Uhh anyone with KNOWLEDGE of this game knows that Pistoleer offers the best combination for def mods accompanied with Fencer. If you chose another for def mods you obviously know little about this game.
Maybe you can enlighten me on which other professions offer good def mods combined with Fencer comparable to Pistoleer?
Ok here's the quick answer for ya one the defense question:
1) Pistoleer does compliment Fencer's defense's...so good in fact you don't nee all of Pistoleer due to maxing out you defenses at the cap.
2) You pick up other professions defenses to get defenses(other then Pistoleers) from things Fencers have very little defenses for.
Now do you see why you shouldn't go Pistoleer with Fencer. Fencer's defenses are great, that's why you pick up an elite profession other then one that compliments it, to pick up that professions defenses. Thanks for your comment, I was waiting for that.
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
With you statement about the only profession with def. mods that can add any justice to Fencers just goes to show how little you really know about this game.
Uhh anyone with KNOWLEDGE of this game knows that Pistoleer offers the best combination for def mods accompanied with Fencer. If you chose another for def mods you obviously know little about this game.
Maybe you can enlighten me on which other professions offer good def mods combined with Fencer comparable to Pistoleer?
Ok here's the quick answer for ya one the defense question:
1) Pistoleer does compliment Fencer's defense's...so good in fact you don't nee all of Pistoleer due to maxing out you defenses at the cap.
2) You pick up other professions defenses to get defenses(other then Pistoleers) from things Fencers have very little defenses for.
Now do you see why you shouldn't go Pistoleer with Fencer. Fencer's defenses are great, that's why you pick up an elite profession other then one that compliments it, to pick up that professions defenses. Thanks for your comment, I was waiting for that.
Ok and.....? Name some and name what the combinations can do for you. The main problem a Jedi has with Fencer is being able to hit them and the last time I checked the only two professions that offer dodge are pistoleer and Fencer and dodge works so much better for Fencer than pistoleer because of CoB and blind.
All those other mods you can get dont mean squat to a Jedi. Its the fact that we miss 90% of the time. Period.
So you have a problem hitting them, I believe there is a food out there to increase accuracy which totally negates our dodge, and CoB.
Lets see...pick up Pikeman and TK for defense vs. Stun, which happens to be a killer to defenses. Pick up any other Elite Brawler profession for more Melee/Ranged defense. Also I'm not sure, but I believe Pikeman also have good defense vs. Intimidate.
What most Jedi are facing are defense stacked Fencers, not pure fencers. I guarentee if you faced a pure Fencer you would win hands down.
ruehs wrote:
So you have a problem hitting them, I believe there is a food out there to increase accuracy which totally negates our dodge, and CoB.
Lets see...pick up Pikeman and TK for defense vs. Stun, which happens to be a killer to defenses. Pick up any other Elite Brawler profession for more Melee/Ranged defense. Also I'm not sure, but I believe Pikeman also have good defense vs. Intimidate.
What most Jedi are facing are defense stacked Fencers, not pure fencers. I guarentee if you faced a pure Fencer you would win hands down.
Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 09:50 PM
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
So you have a problem hitting them, I believe there is a food out there to increase accuracy which totally negates our dodge, and CoB.
Lets see...pick up Pikeman and TK for defense vs. Stun, which happens to be a killer to defenses. Pick up any other Elite Brawler profession for more Melee/Ranged defense. Also I'm not sure, but I believe Pikeman also have good defense vs. Intimidate.
What most Jedi are facing are defense stacked Fencers, not pure fencers. I guarentee if you faced a pure Fencer you would win hands down.
There is a food that increases accuracy. But guess what? It dont make a difference. I dont even think that the food works at all. Ive tried it. Citris snow cake. Adds like 40% accuracy. So no it doesnt negate your dodge and cob. Lets not forget blind that adds on top of that making no matter how much accuracy you have mean nothing.
Food for blind? Yep. The best ive seen is def vs blind +20 food which means nothing cause it dont make enough of a difference.
Like I said all those other def mods mean nothing to a Jedi. Maybe vs other professions def vs stun or intimidate matters but notvs a Jedi who doesnt rely on those to win. Especially seein how mindblast sucks.
It doesnt matter if you had only Fencer. There is food that does work such as dodge food. Kd/food. Mitigation food. You dont need other professions to combine with fencer to beat a Jedi all you need is fencer and food.
Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 09:50 PM
So again you say that a Jedi special sucks, a Jedi problem not a Fencers. I beg to differ on the statement about all you need is Fencer to beat a Jedi, maybe a lowly Jedi Knight and that is with luck. All a Jedi needs is Jedi and food to beat a fencer.
ruehs wrote:
So again you say that a Jedi special sucks, a Jedi problem not a Fencers. I beg to differ on the statement about all you need is Fencer to beat a Jedi, maybe a lowly Jedi Knight and that is with luck. All a Jedi needs is Jedi and food to beat a fencer.
Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 10:01 PM
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
So again you say that a Jedi special sucks, a Jedi problem not a Fencers. I beg to differ on the statement about all you need is Fencer to beat a Jedi, maybe a lowly Jedi Knight and that is with luck. All a Jedi needs is Jedi and food to beat a fencer.
Did I say that a Jedi specials sucking is the reason we cant beat Fencers? No.
Beg to differ all you wish. Its obvious you know nothing about Jedi. I , on the other hand know alot about both because I myself was a Fencer and I am a Jedi.
All a Jedi needs to do is survive a fencer by running away. There is no food we can take to make you stop dodging all of our attacks.
Message Edited by Dragunsoul on 05-21-2004 10:01 PM
You mean you grinded through Fencer. Anyone can grind a profession, it doesn't take skill, it takes skill to learn a profession. I highly doubt you learned how to play as a Fencer.
ruehs wrote:
You mean you grinded through Fencer. Anyone can grind a profession, it doesn't take skill, it takes skill to learn a profession. I highly doubt you learned how to play as a Fencer.
Dragunsoul wrote:
ruehs wrote:
You mean you grinded through Fencer. Anyone can grind a profession, it doesn't take skill, it takes skill to learn a profession. I highly doubt you learned how to play as a Fencer.
Again you assume things with no proof. How do you know I just grinded through Fencer?
You have no argument so you have to make assumptions on things to come up with a quick response.
I honestly would have no problem with you if you didnt do these kind of things and just stated your opinions maturly. If you disagree with me thats fine. I have no problem with people who disagree. Its how state your disagreement. If you want to flame and troll instead of just stating that you disagree and why, it just makes you a nuisance to your own forums.
do you think that flaming others thoughts are going to get them to go away like you want?
No I don't think flaming others thoughts is going to get them to go away. I think I am giving constructive critism to someone that evidently doesn't know much about Fencers as he would like.
ruehs wrote:
No I don't think flaming others thoughts is going to get them to go away. I think I am giving constructive critism to someone that evidently doesn't know much about Fencers as he would like.
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DarthVillanus wrote:
I fight jedi guardians all the time. The first thing I do is blind them and you know what?.....with my cob macro I still get hit 90% of the time. Maybe I've only ever fought smart, competent, knowledgeable guardians who know how to fight. Rather than all the whiney, uneducated jedi I see b!tching on these forums all the time who don't know what they're doing and who just want to own everyone with 1 slash from their glow stick.
If you get hit 90% of the time being master fencer you are the uncompetent and unkowledgeable one.