Fencer Archive

Too many commandos are flamerthrower_01_clones and think the high damage and dot of the FT is expected to win the day. Commandos when they hit do incredible amounts of damage. The devs saw this and made their weapons inaccurate at close and long ranges (medium ideal).

In pvp you should have a stun layered helm AND chestplate. You can throw in the legs but they dont get hit as much and scatterhit is only really for attacking the mind. Even a 1% stun chestplate puts a 50% penalty on the stun baton as its AP0. Throw in some high kinetic resists and fencers beware. Try eating some crispic and your aiming will improve even at close ranges. Suppression fire is nice but fencers have a high defense vs. dizzy and can resist the state fairly easy (its not that great and mostly works on other ranged prof.) If a fencer charges and you have all of this on then dont move or try to run away. We only have a posture down that works every 30sec unless we got master brawler (very few go this route) and get a double posture down which is basically a KD.

If you didn't get a DoT on another melee class after 2 shots then dont bother as you're losing your health when you should be taking theirs with your TK skills. Yeah TK vs. Fencer will probably have the fencer on the winning side unless you took some precautions.

Still want to beat a melee with commando alone? Face away from the melee and run, dont use your FT specials and just lag them to death. At a safe distance you can flame all you want.

BTW, who said commandos are supposed to deal the most damage?

Damn, I'm probably back on some fencers hit lists now.

Fencer, as a class, works as designed. Fencers are best at one-on-one, hand-to-hand combat. Is that what commandos are best at?

Is dodge overpowered? Maybe. Is kiting overpowered? Maybe. Remember, with NO CERTS WHATSOEVER, you can kite a fencer indefinitely, and that fencer can not hurt you. All ranged professions have this advantage over fencer. So fencers do get some powerful things, like dodge, but we also suffer from great disadvantages, like kiting.

As for tactics, why did you use an FSGW5? Those tend to have poor point-blank bonuses. Scouts are better when the enemy is in your face. I've seen scouts with +40 @ 7m and +50 @ point blank. That's a HUGE difference when fighting a fencer.

Also,what is your pistol accuracy? If the fencer was a stacker and you have low accuracy you are not gonna hit him. It really pisses me off when someone gets beat in pvp and they automatically start crying that such and such profession is out of control. And just to let ya know...TK is not useless against a Fencer,I get beat by them alot.

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Powiv wrote:

I know fencers are not gonna agree but the other professions dont like it..theres many things and ive known many many many ppl to complain and say its nuts and over powerd. Not just me

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Pick up Fencer for yourself and then cry it's over powered.

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melanoid wrote:
Im getting destroyed in PVP by Fencers. Im a Master Riflman and I can't even hit them? And when they hit me it's stun damage, most of the time none of the damage is mitigated by my Armor or Synthesteak. I usually get hit for 400 damage by fencers and with a ham bar of about 3500 let's say I die really fast. Now fencers are defeating jedi gaurdians in duels INSANE!!

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You are a schmuck!

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Tataomm wrote:

Powiv,

Commando's got destroyed with their nerf. They should be the most devestating damage dealers in the game, but it doesn't matter how much damage the FT does if you can't hit your target (how exactly does a giant flame miss someone standing right in front of it anyway). I just picked up fencer because it was the easiest way to counter rifleman in this game and so far I love it. I do have compassion for your cause though. I think that fencer has a higher than necessary damage output in PvP due to the stun damage type. I would hold out hope for the combat rebalance. I have faith that PvP will be less about the FoTM and more about a persons skill.

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Tymothi wrote:
Your first mistake was trying to flame him while both of you were (most likely) moving around. That makes it a lot harder to hit plus he's got great dodge and CoB. You should have done a dizzy/kd with your tkm and then flamed the crap out of him. It's not that fencers are uber, you just gotta know how to take 'em down. It may not be as easy to figure out as most other combat profs but if you play against them enough you'll start learning the tricks.

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That's the thing with these people,instead of learning tactics and figuring out their opponents weaknesses they want to be able to just spam a few specials and have the guy go down. It doesn't work that way,if it did there would be no point to having so many professions to choose from.

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Powiv wrote:
Cylenthia_Tavishaun

you are 100% right. And all the people that keep saying Nerf TKM is nuts..helloooooo Fencers beat us almost 9 out of 10 times! How can u say TKM needs nerfing when Fencer is better than TK? (This is not really slaming Fencer, its slaming the Nerf Yellers) Evan tho i did say Fencer is over powered im not trying to say Nerf i was just seeing if anyone els agrees and it looks like each person has another opinion than each other. Seeing that Comando is really not great and now they are talking about making it that DOT only happens 25% of the time..its not worth the skill points. Im more into PVE than PVP and figure that TKM/PikemanM would be a fun thing to have. Evan tho Pike isent the best i still say it looks Freaking cool.

Powiv

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Fencer isn't better than TK...it all depends on the person controlling the character. I do beat alot of TK in pvp,but their are some TKs that beat my a$$ all the time.

I've said this before and I'll say it again.....Commando = waist of skill points right now. Until the combat rebalance if your looking to be competitive with your Commando skills think again. Fencer is the best PvP profession in the game atm (im not counting CM since I don't count that as fighting). Rifleman is very close behind in PvP and is probably the best profession in the game since they areone of thebest in PvE.

Fencer has the best defenses in the game but against professions like Rifleman or TK we still get hit about 50% of the time (even with using COB). Reason why Commando can't hit us is because the accuracy is so low it makes it impossible to hit Fencer. Combine that with a stun bat over 400 damage and you got instant ownage.

btw I know for a fact how bad a Commando is against a Fencer. I killed a Rebel Master Commando and he never hit me once before I d/b him with my stun bat. Do I think its unfair, yes. But do I think we deserve a nerf, not really (maybe any stun bat over 600 damage do because that is just crazy). What needs to happen is give Commando a chance which at the moment it has none against any Master Fencer using COB.