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Thread: fencer vs TKA

EATENG
Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:27 am
#27

well i'm pretty sure even though comp armor has ar1, the fact that it is VULNERABLE to stun damage means if a weapon does stun damage it treats it as if the person was wearing no armor at all. double check the armor guide. i'm pretty sure this is correct



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WoodyX
Tue Mar 09, 2004 5:19 am
#28

well like someone else posted, if Fencer is wearing armor, it would be almost impossible for the TK'er too win. But even when i dont wear my armor *as a fencer/tk'er* all i do it slap Imtimadation2 on them swich to TK slap stunn on them, and there suddly hitting me for 50's Warcry2 end's theres life soon as i put it on cause afther they comes 1 hand hit 3 of scatter hit2!
BoRiii
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:59 am
#29

first of all.. a fencer should never lose to a tka.. wear 80kin armor or something better... he wont be able to do crap.. -.-.. and yes we do have a kd.. you have to dizzy them.. and then lunge...get a stun baton and scatter hit
Borhois
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:01 am
#30

Thank you, but I am a wookie so armor does not pertain to me. thanks for the info on the combos to use tho...very helpful.



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RottaBetito
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:11 am
#31

Make sure to use center of being. Against a TKA, I always try to stick a warcry first as I know the guy is spamming KD. Then I ike the dizzy + Posture change thingie.




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Borhois
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:20 am
#32

So which are the posture change ones?



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Tlk
Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:54 am
#33

1-H lunge is posture down attack from the Brawler tree, at amster brawler you get 1-H lunge 2 which is a knockdown. Always use center of being, best defense for a fencer, I never wear armor because of it. Also stick intimidation as soon as you can, it lowers the defenses of the opponent. Blind will lower there chances of hitting you as well.
Iahheakai
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:03 am
#34

Intimidation doesn't lower the D of the target it makes them do less damage. Its amazing you can not notice this....






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Tlk
Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:20 am
#35

Stun lowers the dmg. I dueled a master fencer we both were hitting about 10% of the time till he got intimidation to stick on me then he was hitting 50% fo the time. If you don't believe me, then that is your option. ALthough I do not believe I am mistaken.
Zarkonan
Tue Mar 16, 2004 8:32 am
#36

Interestingly enough I just dueled a TKM and won one of our two matches. Of note is that even with a blind on him andusingCOB, he seemed to hit me fairly often. TKM's have a huge accuracy bonus. Blind is more effective when dueling another fencer, and espeically against swordsman and pikemen.


His knockdown/dizzy approach worked niether time he used it (excpet for the initial slow down), and I believe it is due to my combat equilibrium stacked from part of tka and fencer. That by itself is a good counter to the TKM knockdown. Or master brawler anduselunge2 to knock him down from a farther distance away before he knocks you down. I don't recommend warcry2 since it is being fundamentally changed as of today.


Finally, from what i understand, Imtimidation not only reduces damage taken but also reduces enemy defenses.





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Vincentarasin
Tue Mar 16, 2004 10:58 am
#37

It reduces secondary defenses to aprox 1% (It is still possible, just virtually never happens) and it reduces damage. (Intimdate)



Wookies can not compete, im sorry, point blank, wookies (Armorless players period, to be realistic) can not compete in PvP. Armor is a nessecity, especially aginst players like Bh's, Riflemen, Fencer/Tks, and Commandos, I will go further to say, anyone that "Claims" to never wear armor, (Mainly a helmet, body armor isnt "As" Important,due to the fact that the large portion of PvP revolves around the mind pool) and win aginst high power professions, is probaly lying, or fought (fights) players that do not know how to properly use(Or abuse)their profession.



The only time I have, hands down, been destroyed, was when a commando Point-blank cone2'd me for 4k damage. Now, if I had armor on, it would have been aprox 1k damage, thus survivable (Buffed). However a wookie, well, their fury and stuff, so their at a disadvantage. Thus a win/loss situation, and we all know commandos get one shot, atleast pointblank, aginst a fencer.



That said, best bet on taking out Tks, intimidate, Dizzy/posture (A note, Posture change, and KD, are different timers, you "Can" LUNGE1, then IMMEADTLY Kd them, Now there is a smarter thing to do with this tactic, Dizzy+lunge them, if they fall, cool, when they get up (since they shouldnt be down more then, ohh, 7seconds or so) KD them, hopefully they will fall again. Sorta like a double-chance





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Cebus
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:27 pm
#38

I usually make rules whenI duel like no warcry or dizzy. I mastered fencer and dueled with these rules. then Idropped fencer, except for the kd defense, remastered tka, and i still use these rules. It's just not fun beating someone while they are kd and can't get up.


I like fencer a lot because it's the only brawler profession that stands a chance against tka, armor and buffs aside.Fencer can beat tka, but it isn't an overpowered profession.


Here's what I would do if I were you dueling a tkm.


*Center before the fight

*Use your wookiee roar right when the fight starts. As you know it almost always intimidates, and the tkm will have fun wasting time trying to intimidate you back with the intimidate defense.

*Don't bother trying to bllind, hit 3 will do that.

*Start spamming a combo of one-hand 3 and body hit 3. With center it will be hard to hit you if the tkm is blind.


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Monoxide187
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:45 pm
#39





Intimidation doesn't lower the D of the target it makes them do less damage. Its amazing you can not notice this....




actually intimidate nullfies secondary defenses (dodge, ca, block)



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