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Thread: Something interesting reguarding stun batons.
phluxx wrote:
Stun Comp and Imp PSG make Stun damage as old and broken as defense stacking! Please get with the times
Most rifleman PVPrs use the trusty t21 now.. The only weapon fencer's have in pvp is DOT weapons
n00b
ruehs wrote:
I was tro....cruising the 19 Answers thread and ran across this tid bit of information in the weaponsmith question.
Can you say... NERF?
That really sucks. But it makes sense on some level. How much fun is it when everybody's in the same 39% stun composite and all of the fencers are using acklay batons? And all the CMs stack 6 mind dots on you?
It's like Nascar-style boring. Everything's the same and you run around in a circle for 5 hours. While you could argue that parity across weapons, defenses, etc. brings out the competition of skills rather than advantages, it's boring to me. I feel the professions should be balancedin that every uber move has an equal and opposite counter. Where various professions are needed to survivea battle. Like, you can walk into the geno caves with 2 TKMs and own it. You should need a variety of fighting styles, damage types, etc. It's what RPGs are all about.
d0qtrX wrote:
ruehs wrote:I was tro....cruising the 19 Answers thread and ran across this tid bit of information in the weaponsmith question.Can you say... NERF?
That really sucks. But it makes sense on some level. How much fun is it when everybody's in the same 39% stun composite and all of the fencers are using acklay batons? And all the CMs stack 6 mind dots on you?
It's like Nascar-style boring. Everything's the same and you run around in a circle for 5 hours. While you could argue that parity across weapons, defenses, etc. brings out the competition of skills rather than advantages, it's boring to me. I feel the professions should be balanced in that every uber move has an equal and opposite counter. Where various professions are needed to survive a battle. Like, you can walk into the geno caves with 2 TKMs and own it. You should need a variety of fighting styles, damage types, etc. It's what RPGs are all about.
why do you say nerf? because you won't be as uber as you want to be? I think it will be a good change, as when the rebalance occurs armor will be redone and so will buffs. So no one will know how it will work out.
Really? I hit for 300-500 with my 328-547 stun baton on stun armored targets.....
DarthVillanus wrote:
I have a 312-734 dmg stun baton and using scatterhit2against a person wearing stun armor and a stun psg, I have never done more than 150 dmg.
Message Edited by DarthVillanus on 06-10-2004 11:25 PM
veegen wrote:
Like kilon said the armour is one of the big imbalances of the whole PvP system right now. However, the devs have said that composite aromour will be changed (most likely bymaking almost 90% bases almost impossible), and once this is done, the other damage types will become more effective.
ruehs wrote:
phluxx wrote:
Stun Comp and Imp PSG make Stun damage as old and broken as defense stacking! Please get with the times
Most rifleman PVPrs use the trusty t21 now.. The only weapon fencer's have in pvp is DOT weapons
n00b
hes right.
thats how all combat is on my server, people rarly even use a jawa, when they do they change when a 200dmg hit does 100 or 50.. (49-50% stun, psg)
when i find someone with stun armor, I just dizzy+kd em and leave, its sensless to try to win,
If they balanced resists, making stun vunerable on comp, as well as another more unique (but not acid/energy) armor type a vunerability of comp, and put stun as a base on some other type of armor (padded maybe, that stuff CAN BE in the 70%'s, only one guy makes it on my server TMK, and its expensive, but its CLOSE to comp resist wise) that would balance it out, and require a little thinking in PvP.
Ohh, a fencer, if hes using a gaffi, i use comp, if he uses a stun, i switch to XX armor type.
Its not easy balancing combat, but Electricity and Blast are the rarest types of damages (two professions per, I belive? BH/Pike and Commando(Launcher/grenades) and swordsmen?)
Maybe those two should be looked at, or something, heck I duno, i gave up long ago, but Armor is the problem, NOT weapons.
All those godly ackley batons have filtered out of my server (the ones in use, of course displays exist still) and i gotta say its prety balanced, as far as that goes.
Volatile999 wrote:
haha my stun baton is 747-1044 in 3.1 made with legendary bones so yea something needs to be done i can take out someone in two hits
Crap.....can we get a screennie of those stats.....not that we don't believe you!
Thanks.
Octah
Master Fencer/Doc/Master Medic
Vincentarasin wrote:
ruehs wrote:
phluxx wrote:
Stun Comp and Imp PSG make Stun damage as old and broken as defense stacking! Please get with the times
Most rifleman PVPrs use the trusty t21 now.. The only weapon fencer's have in pvp is DOT weapons
n00b
hes right.
thats how all combat is on my server, people rarly even use a jawa, when they do they change when a 200dmg hit does 100 or 50.. (49-50% stun, psg)
when i find someone with stun armor, I just dizzy+kd em and leave, its sensless to try to win,
If they balanced resists, making stun vunerable on comp, as well as another more unique (but not acid/energy) armor type a vunerability of comp, and put stun as a base on some other type of armor (padded maybe, that stuff CAN BE in the 70%'s, only one guy makes it on my server TMK, and its expensive, but its CLOSE to comp resist wise) that would balance it out, and require a little thinking in PvP.
Ohh, a fencer, if hes using a gaffi, i use comp, if he uses a stun, i switch to XX armor type.
Its not easy balancing combat, but Electricity and Blast are the rarest types of damages (two professions per, I belive? BH/Pike and Commando(Launcher/grenades) and swordsmen?)
Maybe those two should be looked at, or something, heck I duno, i gave up long ago, but Armor is the problem, NOT weapons.
All those godly ackley batons have filtered out of my server (the ones in use, of course displays exist still) and i gotta say its prety balanced, as far as that goes.
actually if you really think about it blast is the most common damage type that anyone can use. C12 Frag Grenades are blast damage and anyone can use them.
Edit: P.S. Grenades only give combat xp.
Message Edited by ruehs on 06-17-2004 04:15 PM