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Thread: PETITION: To make a fencer weapon AP1 or stun baton AP1.

Joao-Albano
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:39 am
#14



/sign


Sorry double post.

Message Edited by Joao-Albano on 07-30-2004 05:42 AM

TyrranSkorr
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:06 am
#15

If your talking about giving stun batons ap1 ...... /SIGN


Or giving us a new wapon with ap1..... /SIGN



Tyrran Skorr of Bria
Skill Tape Expert g Janta Knife Specialist
Naruk_The_Wookiee
Fri Jul 30, 2004 8:01 am
#16

/sign


Gaffi and Stun-Bat needs to be AP1....



Mastered Professions so far: * Brawler *TKA * Fencer * Swordsman * Pikeman * Marksman * Rifleman * Scout * Creature Handler * Medic
Protteus
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:04 am
#17

You get good defenses.


Bad offense.


It's the trade we make, don't like it? Pick up a class with good dmg along with fencer.


/flex rifle/fencer/pike



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WookieOgre
Fri Jul 30, 2004 9:21 am
#18






Protteus wrote:

You get good defenses.


Bad offense.


It's the trade we make, don't like it? Pick up a class with good dmg along with fencer.


/flex rifle/fencer/pike







Problem with your agrument, we get the same defenses as you do vs high end mobs. If our defenses stayed good vs everything in this game, then I would agree with your point. But seeing how you as a Master Rifleman would have the same defenses (minus toughness)as a Master Fencer when fighting a high end mob, how is that fair? If your talking PvP, how is it a Rifleman can hit me more than 50% of the time even with CoB......maybe its because your accuracy is higher than any ranged profession in the game atm. So that means you hit me every 2 seconds with the most powerful gun in the game while my weapon bounces off the armor and psg. (I wont even attempt to explain how you have mind damage attacks and we have health). We get great defenses, but those defenses can be countered too easily and that leaves us with average defense/bad offense.


And I agree, if you do not have another combat Mastery in another profession, forget about doing anykind of worthwhile damage.

KDubDanzig
Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:25 am
#19

/sign me up
GirthSnail
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:00 pm
#20

It would be nice, but it isn't gonna happen. You're askingto DOUBLE our damage, that's a hell of a lot. Tweaking the damage range on our weapons a bit is more inorder.



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Azuko Hayami <Valor> - Chimaera

Epezo
Fri Jul 30, 2004 5:23 pm
#21

/sign for the Ap1 stun baton




Chroma

Orc Warlock


Britamart
Fri Jul 30, 2004 6:12 pm
#22

how about 100 use ap1 melee powerups?
weapon-handler
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:11 pm
#23

Well don't know if this is true but I've heard of a Black Shafted Baffi Baton dropped by those new tuskens first few days they came out and they supposedly had ap1. So i don't know but yes we do need a better weapon than vibro butter knife. Every other elite profession has gotten at least one new weapon and some have gotten 2, maybe 3 not sure though.
Drunkenjedi420
Fri Jul 30, 2004 7:27 pm
#24

Logically thinking - Batons are Blunt weapons - thus they shouldnt pierce.


A dagger, Knife, sword. or any pointed blade can serve as a armour piercing weapon. They should add one to the Fencer or add more defensive skills to compensate.


The fencer has great abilities - I just started playing it - I can not sign, unless I can play it enough to know what it does. Although,I can tell you, it is very weak compared to other combat classes dmg. wise for what weapons we use.


-Sazo



Sazo - Radiant
MY DIARY OF NGE
Protteus
Fri Jul 30, 2004 11:25 pm
#25






WookieOgre wrote:





Protteus wrote:

You get good defenses.


Bad offense.


It's the trade we make, don't like it? Pick up a class with good dmg along with fencer.


/flex rifle/fencer/pike







Problem with your agrument, we get the same defenses as you do vs high end mobs. If our defenses stayed good vs everything in this game, then I would agree with your point. But seeing how you as a Master Rifleman would have the same defenses (minus toughness)as a Master Fencer when fighting a high end mob, how is that fair? If your talking PvP, how is it a Rifleman can hit me more than 50% of the time even with CoB......maybe its because your accuracy is higher than any ranged profession in the game atm. So that means you hit me every 2 seconds with the most powerful gun in the game while my weapon bounces off the armor and psg. (I wont even attempt to explain how you have mind damage attacks and we have health). We get great defenses, but those defenses can be countered too easily and that leaves us with average defense/bad offense.


And I agree, if you do not have another combat Mastery in another profession, forget about doing anykind of worthwhile damage.








1. No, rifleman are missing one very nice defense that fencers get, melee mit, luckily, I have both .


2. I can't hit a fencer with cob macro at 25m more than 50% of the time. This is whyI chose melee for myself as well.


3. My weapon is also reduced by much, when it hits mind you, reduced by 40 stun armor, 45-60% psg and 44% synthsteak(yea people use it), toughness, and ranged mit. I look to dots now for a better offensive.


4. Yes, yes fencer does get a mind attack, called scatter hit.



Damn I need to update my sig, makes me look like an uber troll instead of a semi troll
<-- Master Rifle/Master Fencer/4004 Pikeman/1000 Medic




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Brainplay
Sat Jul 31, 2004 12:04 am
#26

Pistoleers who also have great defenses get


1: Several damage types including 4 AP1 weapons.


2: a Stun damage weapon with 100-300+ damage


3: the new DE-10 which is AP1 and can get up to 350+ on its damage rating.



Fencers get


1) 3 weapons and 2 damage types


2) 2 AP0 weapons and 1 AP1 weapon


3) Acklay enhancements to the AP0 weapons


4) a AP1 "knife" with a damage rating equal to a vibroknuckler but no +205 damage bonus like TKM


Beating an AP0 stun weapon is way way too easy. Having to switch to a gimped weapon with AP1 that does very little damage is not a fair deal. Adding a higher damage AP1 weapon or even converting our curved sword into AP1 is not unreasonable.



/sign





Keorythe

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/Forcing Counterstrike PvPers to PvE since 2003 \






A Combat Medic Alpha tester who never got the chance to alpha test

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