Fencer Archive

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P__Day wrote:

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Actairr wrote:
Ok here comes what you will all call a flame, but it is just the truth.

On every single prof forum there is this post, where some guy says he cant do things other people can do and its not fare. Well if you want to be uber at pve go swordsman. fencer is a great pvp class, swordsman is not. It is simple, people need to decide what they want to be and get the class to do it with. I am master swordsman/master pistoleer/and 2 tiersin fencer. I cant pvp, so i dont. I was a bh/pistoleer and pretty good at pvp but i could not pve real well. Bottom line is if you are a dancer you cant make brandy, sorry for being harsh. They set up proffesions that can do different things. Fencers and swordsman are different sorry, like tk and pikeman are and carbs and rifles. If there is an uber class it is rifle (great at pvp and with ap3 great at pve) you want to be good at both go rifleman. If there is a gimp prof it is not Fencer. Either pistols/carbs/or pikeman. Yes pikeman do good in DwB, everythig is vuln to elec there. Not made that way for them, made that way for BH. Look at the other common weakness in the DwB, acid, bh pistol=acid. Sorry if this ruins your day, but someone need to tell the truth.

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No you dont have to choose whether to be good at PvE or PvP, go rifleman, DWB : Disruptor Rifle AP2 Acid. T21 AP3 energy. For PvP Jawa Ion Rifle AP1 stun damage. PvP nothing can really compete with a speed capped rifleman, PvE nothing can compete with a speed capped rifleman.

Rifleman is the only really working prof, that can be used both ways. Il even bet you 100k that a speed capped rifleman with a good disruptor will take down a SBD faster than a m.bh with a LLC

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I comletely agree. I even said that if there is an uber class Rifleman is it. But every prof cant get an ap3 700 damage weapon. But yes rifleman is definetely the best of both worlds (i dont think a rifleman or a bh or anyone can solo a SBD from the Dwb). And for the creator of this post, not sure what you spent you other points on but the best template i ever faced in pvp is rifleman/fencer.

I dunno... I got wiped the one time I went the DWB (by myself), but I can solo two of the corvette missions with good electric/energy composite with synsteak and cob running.

What irritates me is the two main weapons we have are, well, CLUBS.

/sigh I'd like to use a sword

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TheRealWalker wrote:
I dunno... I got wiped the one time I went the DWB (by myself), but I can solo two of the corvette missions with good electric/energy composite with synsteak and cob running.

What irritates me is the two main weapons we have are, well, CLUBS.

/sigh I'd like to use a sword

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You said it! (/sigh I'd like to use a sword )

When I hear 'fencer' I do not envision someone with a billy-club beating on people. It's a one handed sword fighter, using a rapier, an epee, a sabre!

Where is the high end fencers's blade? I haven't found a weaponsmith yet, and I'm sure it's impossible at this time, who can make a one-hand sword that competes with the gaffi-stick or stun baton, but I would LOVE to see it.

I'm a master fencer and I'm closing in on master swordsman as well. I wanted to be a 'blade master' but the choices of fencing weapons are not helping me out! If we get a new weapon, or improved versions of existing weapons, I wouldn't care if it was kinetic damage. I'd just like to be able to wield a fencing blade and do it well.

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Homper wrote:

..... but against like ATSTs, all the stuff in the DWB and Geo Caves.. I just don't do well.. and forget about the Corvette. I'm usually rhe first one to die, while Pikeman, Commandos and Rifleman eat east those things for breakfast.

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Umm,

Just as a little note, 5 rancors are not a problem for anyone in 80-90% armor with a PSG, and food/drink, and doc buffs.

This should change... and change drastically...

I'd like to see it take a well balanced group to handle a couple rancor.

And everyone is going to have to open themselves up to changeing their view of other professions when the CB hits.

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Minerunner wrote:
Umm,

Just as a little note, 5 rancors are not a problem for anyone in 80-90% armor with a PSG, and food/drink, and doc buffs.

This should change... and change drastically...

I'd like to see it take a well balanced group to handle a couple rancor.

And everyone is going to have to open themselves up to changeing their view of other professions when the CB hits.

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I like the sounds of that, sadly i think too many people are accustomed to the feel of being 'uber' and this will cause even more players to drop subscriptions. That will also DRASTICALLY change pvp once again, players right now are about if not more tough than a rancor currently. should be some interesting changes ahead.

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Homper wrote:

hmm well ok, I see your point. in the same breath though.. you could ask why 2hd swords man do well against them? even with a powerhammer or other weapon.

You can also ask how is it that a TKM can take on 4+ rancors at a time and not even break a sweat. here's a little jet li guy that is pounding on an carapace armored monster and taking them down like nothing.

Gaffi baton should/could/would be the a choice weapon vs an atst.

I don't know... like I said... just my rant.. I'd like fencers to have more effectiveness vs these high end mobs, but I guess its only fair to spread the wealth.

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Ok, fencers are weaker than tka and 2 handed swords. My point stands against these aswell, i don't see why they should be able to take on a ATST. There are two ways we can approach this. Make fencer more powerful or make the game itself more realistic, i.e no melee profs can take out an ATST. We would still have our uses, taking care of the supporting troops whilst our ranged buddies kill the ATST. Just comes down to if we want to group or not i suppose.

Sorry if it sounded like i was having a go, but it was just a question. I do agree with you, but i would rather see realism more than lots of uber profs that can take anything out!! I suppose we'll have to wait and see what thecombat balance (or revamp, what ever they're calling it now !) does to the professions. My hope is realism and i'm sure you'll agree this would be better. As it stands though I agree with you entirely fencer is weaker against these types of things. Makes you wander though why the devsmade the other melee profs able to take them on and not fencer.

Fencer is the coolest melee prof, by far!!!

"I like the sounds of that, sadly i think too many people are accustomed to the feel of being 'uber' and this will cause even more players to drop subscriptions. That will also DRASTICALLY change pvp once again, players right now are about if not more tough than a rancor currently. should be some interesting changes ahead."

This isn't a balance pass, it might as well be a rebuild of the combat system from the ground up. Though some of the particulars will seem the same.

Which means PVP can get balanced (as balanced as role specific combat can be) then PVE gets a pass. Tactics will become an important part of both group formation and group PVE/PVP.

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Minerunner wrote:
This isn't a balance pass, it might as well be a rebuild of the combat system from the ground up. Though some of the particulars will seem the same.

Which means PVP can get balanced (as balanced as role specific combat can be) then PVE gets a pass. Tactics will become an important part of both group formation and group PVE/PVP.

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yeah i understand its a rebuild/revamp (hence the namechange from combat balance to combat revamp) Didn't mean to imply anything other than the fact that alot of people won't like being taken down a notch of power in the game.

i think you are just enjoying replying to my posts this morning, either way i'm getting some sleep... stupid all nighters ugh, damned joo SoE and Lucas Arts! lol

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Minerunner wrote:
"I like the sounds of that, sadly i think too many people are accustomed to the feel of being 'uber' and this will cause even more players to drop subscriptions. That will also DRASTICALLY change pvp once again, players right now are about if not more tough than a rancor currently. should be some interesting changes ahead."

This isn't a balance pass, it might as well be a rebuild of the combat system from the ground up. Though some of the particulars will seem the same.

Which means PVP can get balanced (as balanced as role specific combat can be) then PVE gets a pass. Tactics will become an important part of both group formation and group PVE/PVP.

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True, its a sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in. ppl wanting to be uber over evrything and everyone. We'll have to see how the CB will address this.

If ppl really loved starwars then they wouldn't mind if it was more realistic, i hope!! The problem is that i think most ppl treat anonline gamelike a first person shooter where you are uber over most things. I mean who doesn't want to be uber over everything, but thats not what this game should be about and if ppl can't accept that then go and play something like JK2.

I just like the idea of grouping with ppl to take on an enemy.