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Thread: Why am I harvesting less, I don't know either

VolstedGridban
Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:44 am
#14



DeltaXi65 wrote:
Just to be clear - resource shifts will result in you getting "1" and the creature will be skinny.




Not any more. This bug has been fixed.



Volsted Gridban
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AmonLhaw
Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:20 am
#15

Trust me all, this was not a resource shift of the type kind. I already had 300-500 units in my inventory and did not get a second stack on the next night. One thing I did notice the second night was there does appear to be a difference between what is harvested from mission lairs and what is harvested on random lairs. I was able to find two random lairs after my two mission lairs and in both cases the random creatures gave slightly more than the mission creatures. Not to mention there are more creatures from randoms lairs, but I think this has always been the case. For instance, pudgy nudfuh gave 11 herb meat instead of 7, same for the regular nudfuh they gave 17 instead of 14. I'm guessing there is either a new bug or it was intentional to differentiate between getting paid for missions and not getting paid for finding them on your own. I'm on Shadowfire.



Itannen
Scout 4, 0, 4, 2
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WildBil2Me
Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:21 pm
#16

I admittedly wasn't paying attention to the creature size issue. I'm willing to bet that is explaining the differences that I had noted. It's funny... sometimes at Nearly Master Ranger you start relearning the things you knew at novice scout. One of the things I love most about this game. There's just SO MUCH going on.


-WB




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AmonLhaw
Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:08 pm
#17

You know, I'd give my left testi...well, maybe not that, but I'd love to see an edit button on these things. I was going to add that after thinking about this some more I seem to remember that the harvest message for the mission lair pudgy nudfuh said they were medium size, don't remember if the it said the same for the regular nudfuh. What is said for the random lair harvest, I don't remember. I'll try to get on tonight and test this out. If they did make a change it would have been nice for them to put it in the patch notes. And if they did and I missed, I just made myself look like an idiot.



Itannen
Scout 4, 0, 4, 2
Master Marksman
Blademaster
Hunter of magically disappearing creatures
AmonLhaw
Wed Nov 26, 2003 8:51 pm
#18

And I stress little test. I harvested Rori Herbivore Meat from four nudfuh spawns, one was from a mission terminal, the other three were all random, without lairs specifically, just spawn points. I think we were all partially correct or all partially wrong, depending on your point of view. BTW, Rori Herbivore Meat on Shadowfire hadn't shifted from two days ago.


Mission lair harvest:



  • Nine pudgy nudfuh, medium size @ nine each = 81 units

  • Three nudfuh, medium size @ 15 each = 45 units

  • Total haul = 126 units

Random spawn 1:



  • Three pudgy nudfuh, healthy @ 12 each = 36 units

  • One pudgy nudfuh, medium size @ 12 each = 12 units

  • Two nudfuh, healthy @ 22 each = 44 units

  • Ten nudfuh, healthy @ 21 each = 210 units

  • One nudfuh, medium size @ 21 each = 21 units

  • Total haul = 323 units, although 17 animals sounds strange so let's reduce the total by 21 = 302 units

Random spawn 2:



  • Ten pudgy nudfuh, medium size @ 11 each = 110 units

  • Four nudfuh, medium size @ 20 each = 80 units

  • Two nudfuh, medium size @ 19 each = 38 units

  • Total haul = 228 units

Random spawn 3:



  • Ten pudgy nudfuh, medium size @ 11 each = 110 units

  • Six nudfuh, medium size @ 19 each = 114 units

  • Total haul = 224 units

It appears that the harvest message (medium size, fat and healthy) now determines how much is harvested as well as whether or not it is a mission lair, possibly. Although, the above mission lair stats are consistent with what I was harvesting two nights ago. It also appears there is still enough of a random factor involved that I got two medium animals from a spawn that was normally giving healthy animal; however, both of the medium size animals gave the same amount of meat as the other healthy animals. This can also effect the amounts with in a spawn as well, but probably only +/- one or two units per animal.


If anyone can confirm/refute this, with real numbers, I'd appreciate it. Also, I don't recall any of this being in the patch notes. Was it by chance in the Test Center notes, don't normally make it over there.





Itannen
Scout 4, 0, 4, 2
Master Marksman
Blademaster
Hunter of magically disappearing creatures
DeltaXi65
Sat Nov 29, 2003 6:35 pm
#19

Amon,


Thanks for doing that little test. That hopefully will confirm to some people how the system actually works. Looks like this wasn't a bug - just a bit of randomness.


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