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Thread: fencer...............or pistoleer?
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Straker_Atrella
Sun Jun 20, 2004 2:12 pm
#1
It's really hard to say.
Fencer is great against all types of stuff, except stuff with heavy armor and kinetic/stun resist.
Pistoleer has a wider range of weapon damage selections, making it more versitile. Yet it doesn't have the defenses Fencer does.
It's really more your playstyle if you like ranged or melee.
ken0bi17
Sun Jun 20, 2004 9:12 pm
#3
i'm going to have to agree with straker on this one. as someone who has been a master pistoleer and is (almost) a master fencer, i can say that as far as PvE goes they are both pretty similar. the main difference you'll probably notice is the pistoleer's lesser defense than the fencer.
as far as stun weapons go, i can't really comment on these as i was a pistoleer before the geo sonic pistol came out, but i can say that from what i've seen these pistols are quite pricey. you may want to keep that in mind if you are planning to use mainly stun weapons.
hope i helped
as far as stun weapons go, i can't really comment on these as i was a pistoleer before the geo sonic pistol came out, but i can say that from what i've seen these pistols are quite pricey. you may want to keep that in mind if you are planning to use mainly stun weapons.
hope i helped
nerfburder
Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:59 am
#4
ok, i wanna use a stun weapon, mainly for PVE but i dunno what would be best, fencer and the stun baton, or pistoleer and the geo pistol.
can i get an advice?
many thanks
Brainplay
Mon Jun 21, 2004 6:03 am
#5
nerfburder wrote:
ok, i wanna use a stun weapon, mainly for PVE but i dunno what would be best, fencer and the stun baton, or pistoleer and the geo pistol.
can i get an advice?
many thanks
Both fencer and pistoleer stun weapons are AP 0 so if the creature you attack has any sort of armor the weapon is useless. Riflemen use the Jawa Ion Rifle which is stun and AP 1.
Most npc's are better off being defeated with a well made gaffi stick although with pistoleer you get the new DE-10 pistol which is AP 2 but energy.
In PvE fencer and pistoleer aren't exactly the best choices by themselves. 
fearvamp
Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:49 am
#6
fencer and pistoleer are not the best for pVe. i would suggest swordsman or pikeman for pVe most likely swordsman. fencer is great for pVp tho you have do have very good defenses tho because you cant jsut kite 
Straker_Atrella
Mon Jun 21, 2004 3:17 pm
#7
I wouldn't call an AP0 stun weapon useless. Sure you may not drop something as fast as other people, but you CAN still kill.
People act like just because something has some type of armor you do zero damage, that isn't true.
Pistol does have a wider variety of weapon options though.
Mler
Mon Jun 21, 2004 7:54 pm
#8
I would suggest fencer. With master fencer center of being, hardly anything could hit me (in PvP it was about 50/50). Gaffi sticks do good damage, I think the most I ever hit something for was around 3026 (it was dizzy and knocked down). There are incredible acklay stun batons out there aswell. In my opinion,fencer is not week offensively. It may not have as high of a damage output as pistoleer in some cases, but the defenses more than make up for it. In a fight, the winner isn't always who can do the most damage, but who can last the longest. Even if fencer doesn't have as stronge of an offense, most things miss 9/10 times when you are a master and have center of being on. Fencer all the way
Brainplay
Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:04 am
#9
There are exactly 4 stun weapons in this game (geo pistol, tangle pistol, stun baton, jawa ion rifle).
All of them are relatively weak as far as damage compared to there sister weapons. Only one has AP1 and thats the jawa ion rifle.
Composite armor is marked as "light armor" so AP1.
Any AP0 weapon hitting an AP1 item with resists vs. its damage type gets an automatic 50% reduction in damage BEFORE even considering resists. You're better off with a beefed upgaffi or a vibroblade.
Btw, has anyone ever seen an enhanced vibroblade by chance? I know TK's go ga-ga over nym enhanced VK's that reach into the 200's. Can someone post a screenshot of a VB like that?
Oh and I totally forgot, pistoleers and fencers will be get the abililty to dual weild weapons at some point (they said it not me) so our lack of dps with one weapon will at least get doubled. Now I just need a image designer to give me a blue mohawk so I can walk around with a pair of match vibroblades hotpants 
PeterNC09
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:18 pm
#10
Why not just do both? I'm Mfencer/Mpistoleer/Mbrawler, and its a great combo. You get the combined defenses of pistoleer and fencer, and you can handle yourself rather well in pvp.
Vincentarasin
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:54 pm
#11
Go riflemen, join the FOTM so they nerf it faster.
Fencer is not bad for PvE, and great for PvP,
PvE, pistolierre is decent, but again, riflemen, better
PvP, pistolierre is a joke on my server (everyone has 46% stun or better)
Wildsideoflife
Wed Jun 23, 2004 5:33 pm
#12
i dont reccomend using a stun weapon for pve. Simple as that but if i had to decide id go fencer.
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