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Thread: Fencing, is it worth it? Questions. need help

Kro
Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:50 pm
#1

hello my fellow fencers,


I am a novice fencer thinking if i should continue my fencing profession or not. I mean two-handers, tka's, and pikemen get a knockdown move, why dont the fencers...i mean if i were to duel any of the above i'd get owned because of KD. Are there any real benefits for becoming a fencer, most say its the poorest melee class out of all of the melees. I like fencing, but i need an advice if i should keep it or not, it doesn't do well for me in pve or pvp....i mean a TKA can solo a whole tusken fort by him/herself...


Also what is the best weapon for a fencer? a stun baton since its the last certification we get? most stun batons i've seen are weak, and whats the advantage of a stun baton over the other fencing weapons? and has anyone seen a fencing weapon made with krayt tissue to enhance the dmg?



Kro(Novice Swordsman)


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Sirin151
Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:50 pm
#2

Fencer is about style over substance from what I have seen. I'm not exactly Mr. Expert fencer though. Stun Batons are good because they do stun damage, which bypasses almost all armor. They don't really do more damage than any other weapon necessarily; its more of the damage type. Most fencers I've talked to have three weapons: a curved blade/rykk blade for massive damage @ high HAM cost, a vibroblade for low HAM cost, and a stun baton for things with massive armor vs kinetic damage. That's my cents about fencer.. I don't do PVP really, so, I can't say as to its good-ness in that arena. I won't comment on my PvE experiences because they will likely change in a big way once the changes on TC go live.




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KaliMirchi
Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:34 pm
#3

Yanno.... I really abhor having to justify why *anyone* should be a fencer.



Stick with TKA if you have to ask.




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HernandezBallin
Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:45 pm
#4

Too many misconceptions.


TK's knockdown in the lowest levels will not phase a master fencer, a master TK would be basing his KD move on luck, as most duels would proceed that direction. Every profession except pikeman can mind hit to pwn most fencers including myself. I usually let them agree to not (wont work galatic pvp of course) head hit and I wont bleed. My bleed 2 once caused 214 constitution damage to my opponent high in TK. there's probably been higher wounds from that too.


Fencer can Dizzy+lunge and that gives us the power to KD tusken and solo 80% of the fort just like a TK. Even with a TK the knockdown has a chance to fail and they also have a chance to stand right back up.


Fencer's have a sick bleed


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TK is more fun, but there are tons of TK out there.




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Awon
Thu Oct 30, 2003 12:56 am
#5

I would like to ask when did 2 handed get a KD move lol. All classes can have a KD move if you get master brawler. If you people cant take down other melee problems thats your own problem(besides TKA of course cause they are gods lol). I have beaten every two hander ive fought and almost every pikeman. I would of beat all the pikemen but without armor your dead in 2 hits. I agree that if you have to ask why you should continue fencing its not the class for you go with TKA.
Awon
Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:21 am
#6

lol Fencing sucks my balls. But im a blademaster and wouldnt give it up for the world but really i hate fencing lol.
Ilooli
Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:46 am
#7

Talking about fencer has the disadvantage that the profession is going to change, or so it seems. Currently. afencer is a lot more effective in a group than solo unless you are pet-reliant (I abhor using a pet). But you just cannotstand up to damage because of broken defensive skills. Where we will be after the developers give fencers a makeover is hard to say. I would guess that we will still lag behind TKs and heavy sword. If your objective is to be teh most powerful, I think you should move on. On the other hand, fencer is fun.




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Fredwroc
Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:41 am
#8

Fencer is fun. I have a lot of fun in groups and such, but solo, I really stink. Oh, and don't even think about PvP.

I don't think I've ever resisted a KD. Guess the devs decided to make the +40 defense do nothing...



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Rro
Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:38 am
#9

Please! I'm begging ya! Join me on a hunt sometime.


Watch me solo 2 Enraged Rancors at once with no petsnorincaps and then say Fencer's suck.


Watch me make 450K credits in one weekend soloing level 60 missions with no pets and then say Fencers suck.


Watch me beat down Nightsister Rangers and Singing Mountain Clan Dragoons and keepthem down untilthey aredead and then say Fencers suck.


Watch me singlehandedly take down a Giant Dune Kimoand then say Fencers suck.


Heck I almost beat the Kimo SlayerMOB guywith 18K Ham! I took 12K of his health and this was with no rest after killing the Kimo. He got me but I put up one heck of a fight. If I could have gotten a little mind rest in after the Kimo, I would have dropped him and looted his hacked up corpse.


As for PVP, I don't know and could care less. It's not why I'm here.


Of course, I guess I should mention that I wear full composite armorfrom head to toe and as you can see, I'm Zabrak. Imake very good use of my innate mind abilities.Master Brawler helps too.


I'm the very definition of the word "tank". :-)




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JediTool
Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:46 pm
#10

Go swordsman if you know whats good for you. Stay away from fencer unless you have already mastered it.



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Cruseydr
Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:28 pm
#11

No buffs rro?



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Rro
Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:58 pm
#12

Only when I can find them. Not always easy to finda doctor that buffson Dathomir and Lok. But yeah, they help as well. I do love the buffs but it's the armor that does the trick since my mind is the main thing that kills me.


And dont think I go toe to toe with Kimos all the time either. After doing it with a small group and seeing how it was done, I decided to give it a shot on my own and if it were not for Warcry 2 and double bleeds, I dont think I could have done it. Then I died anyway from the Kimo Slayer dude. I've missed 2 good harvests because of aggros after the big fights.


Now lately, with the guys from the guild, it's a lot more fun. We have a Master Surgeon who can lay a nice buff on a person, but it's still the armor that keeps me alive.


And btw, I do have a pet, but I rarely use him in a fight. My cowardly gurreck cannot handle a single Bolma calf on its own and all he does is die. I keep him grouped for the extra group XP but if he is fighting, it is because he got aggro'd and not because I told him to attack. heh! He's pretty useless against what I'm fighting these days.




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Rro
Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:57 pm
#13

ok I'm home now so I can finish this.


Now don't get me wrong here. I'm not trying to brag or anything (well maybe a teeny bit) but I've seen so many posts about there being no tanks in the game and I got into an argument with a dude on Dathomir Monday night becausehe tried to tell me that melee sucks on Dathomir without a pet. What a total load of bull. I dont use my pet to tank for me because I am the better tank. Way better!


Anyway, the thing is, the ability to be a tank is already in the game. The ability to be a major death dealing monster slaying badass is already in the game. And you know what? It's no different from Diablo in my eyes. In fact, I approached it the exact same way.Equip the best +25 Super Massive Gnarly Beating Stick of the Snapping Turtle I can find. (1h curved 96-225) Wear the best +50 Ultra Terrific Mega GodlyPlate of the Tree Sloth I can wear. (composite armor with +49or better to everything) Go tip over the biggest beastie I can find and beat on it with the best abilities and highest damage moves that I have, and keep a finger on the heal button.


Nothing fancy there.


And I will admit that it's not all Fencer skills so those that dont go for Master Brawler will definitely not see the same results. However, you will not get all of the Fencer skills unless you get Master Brawler and lemme tell ya, that last 1h skill is a doozy and is well worth the trouble of getting all of that unarmed XP to get there.


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