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Thread: how does Master Fencer dmg compare to other melee profs?

Karikaru
Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:42 pm
#1

im just curious, because a couple days ago on test i saw a TKM hit one of my buddies in a duel for 6k dmg, instacapping him (might have had something to do with the KD dmg bonuses /shrug)



but how do you think master fencer dmg output compares with the other master melees



thanks,




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Xendi
Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:57 am
#2

6k dmg..You should have taken a screen shot of that..


As far as Fencing goes, its very comparible, I havnt managed to hit someone more than twice before theyre dead ( non buffed ) with Body hit 3..Armour is a different story, then u have to use a stun baton and they are fairly weak but melt through composite..


Id have to say my average hit in pvp is 400-750 - pve 1k - 3k depending on the weapon im using at the time..But trust me, out of the 4 melee classes Fencing is by far the best for pve if you cart around crates of mind food..Nothing like chewing through graul maulers or Kimo's to impress your freinds..+ we have 2 bleeds that stack. So our overall dmg output is better than tka and we are just as fast..


Not to mention the status hits, those are very important in pve, pvp seems to go at such a pase i cant keep up..I usualy wind up spamming dumb shots and losing do to lack of pvp skill in melee..





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RubiusBrasion
Thu Nov 20, 2003 2:16 am
#3

fencers are lower then tka by a long shot, but we are stronger then pikeman and swordsman, the most damage ive ever delt personally was with a slice gafi baton, 170-330 on a dark trooper taking a short nap, 1 hits and he was a corpse (btw it was 6533 and 5721) ofcourse that was with kd, now melee vs melee i usually average between 1500-2200 (npcs) with ranged (kneeling or prone) over 2500.




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Awon
Thu Nov 20, 2003 3:09 am
#4

rub i dont mean to say your lieing but theres no way in hell you canhit that hard against another pc. Our damage is the weakest if you didnt notice tka's hit harder. HS hit way harder. And pikeman well dam if you get hit by one while your not wearing armor your in alot of trouble. So plz get your facts strait befor you say we have the second best damage when we really have the worst.
vonbraat
Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:17 am
#5

6000hps in one hit in pvp simply IS NOT POSSIBLE. i believe i have an explanation though.

sometimes i hit so fast that the hit numbers over target's head just double or maybe triple. instead of running off all those neg numbers. plus was ur buddy kd'd? if so there is a damage bonus during kd, he may have been hittin for twice what he normally hits anyways.



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Illuminator
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:43 am
#6

Maybe it was against a Commando or Rifleman? cause of the 2.5 times melee bonus?



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FURY_Chaser
Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:55 am
#7






Illuminator wrote:
Maybe it was against a Commando or Rifleman? cause of the 2.5 times melee bonus?





6k damage in PvP would equate to a 24k damage hit in PvE, with a 2.5 mod that would be a 9.6k hit in PvE, take another 1.5x for being prone would bring it to around 6.4k PvE hit, which I dont think is possible.
Awon
Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:15 am
#8

It is very possible just not for a tka ive seen pikemen do it every once in awhile though. The tkm could of hit a kd riflemen while wearing vibro over 200 damage.
duci
Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:06 pm
#9

Had me 0-4-0-2 fencer and a TKA master. we were double teamed doing imp missions. Hitting the lair both of us bezerked, he did on average75 points of damage more than me. We were exactly the same speed tho. I had my 265dam gaffi stick. This guy is a master doc too so he is rich. I'm assuming he had a nice vibroknuckler.


Very comparable. We don't match up to TKA profession wise, but we do ok.

Master-Kensai
Fri Nov 21, 2003 3:58 pm
#10

here is what im able to tell fom master fencer...



PvE = wit onehit3 i average about 2200-2500 dmg per sec. I do not use powerups often but wen i do i average about 3k-3,k i dmg with a 15% max dmg powerup... wit bodyhit3 i average about 1500-1800 per sec again this without a powerup. Now i have had over 10k hits o empty lairs and max dmg ever against an NPC while tey were kd'd and a ranged weapon was about 5800-6k.



I ave ont dueled in PvP yet since i got master or since patch tough i dont know why tey are scared lol...


anyow while lvling i dueled any and all melee of about equal or higher skill and found that we have an adv against te HS and Pike. TK still had adv. Baed on what i have seen and know once at master things change. Now that the HS is spd capped more then likely my spd adv is gone. so I would assume based on the dmg and armor penetrate of their weps we move down to 3rd. Pike accuracy is still too horid to move ahead of us though if they hit us ..**edit** !! One pike ever beat me and he actualy landed 4 out of 7 swings and tats all se wrote lol...



A for how we compare overall compare to oter bralwers we compaer evenly troughout carears if you take te entire carear into account... TK own but pike blows...once master it really comes down to your othe abilities and your play style and techiques as to how well you can do... I know a few TK tat welcome me into a group and it i refreshing to see me wanted by what many see a te master brawlers... Fencer is a very good and powerful if used properly and with your own play style mastered it comeds nice and smoothly. Since getting mater fence i ave een many people turn eads wen we fight now since the tide of battles sway comparibly wit wen i am or not in it... by this i mean instead of staying out of it and healing o being in it and takning te crystal hunters...



dmg is relative to your ability to stay alive....






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Tanizaki
Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:31 pm
#11






Master-Kensai wrote:

"You say not to bring a sword to a gun fight, I say that you should think twice about that gun when my blade gets done slicing you in two" - Kensai Darknheight




You're a wise wife, huh? Congratulations!



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Master-Kensai
Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:54 pm
#12

lol good one !!!


o wait i dont get it ?!?!!?



why i got to be a wife?




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Tanizaki
Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:23 pm
#13






Master-Kensai wrote:

lol good one !!!


o wait i dont get it ?!?!!?



why i got to be a wife?






In Japanese, "kensai" is a wise wife, a man of talent, a certain kind of bond, or the act of something spanning over several prefectures. The word that you want is "kensei", one who is devoted to the way of the sword. I chose "wise wife" because it is the most humorous.


IIIRCthe word "kensai" applying to a swordsman appeared in the AD&D sourcebook "Oriental Adventures" by Gary Gygax.




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