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Thread: A Master Fencers thoughts about dueling/PvP

Wolf_Scout
Thu May 27, 2004 6:19 am
#1

We need a better selection of F*cking weapons that might even have dots on them. I am not talking janta knives either. Everyone has gotten better weapons I know we got Ackly stun Batons but they are screwed up. Why can't we get nice swords with dots like the pikes, rifles pistols etc?



"Weapons are made to kill, but it is the human mind that decides the amount of pain they will inflict"

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AdmiralSpy
Thu May 27, 2004 8:14 am
#2

While I agree that it would be nice to atleast have one more AP1 weapon, I must also add that your template isn't particularly suited for being a top damage-dealer in PvP.


As Doc/Fencer, you simply won't be able to hit a prepared opponent. 40% stun + Stun PSG = useless Stun baton, as I'm sure you're aware, and the vast number of skillpoints spent in the Doctor trees means that that's pretty much all that you have.


That said, your template is simply not designed for dueling - it's a group PvP one (and a mighty fine one at that with all those CMs), but 1-on-1s will simply result in you not dealing enough damage, unless you're able to posture-change them down twice and dizzy them, which often isn't that easy.


It's not "Fencers" in general, it's just the way you chose your template. Believe me, as Fencer/Carb, I'd do anything to be able to heal dizzies and strong poisons on the fly.. but I have to sacrifice that in order to get Ranged Mitigation 3 and Ranged Dizzy/KD moves.


IIn my mind, Fencer is a "backup" or "secondary" profession, unless you have a really wicked Stun Baton.




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Wolf_Scout
Thu May 27, 2004 8:30 am
#3

I realize I am not a top damage dealer, but our lack of variety on weapons sucks. As for a stun baton mine sux but I know with a 300+ I will rock, again it is a baton, Pikeman get pikes, rifleman get rifles, etc etc, why can't we get swords? This is not a whine post on being a top damage dealer, I do know my role, it is our lack of weaponry when everyone else is getting something cool. Besides except for a pike/doc I do not lose to anything.



"Weapons are made to kill, but it is the human mind that decides the amount of pain they will inflict"

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Tataomm
Thu May 27, 2004 8:47 am
#4



Wolf_Scout wrote:
We need a better selection of F*cking weapons that might even have dots on them. I am not talking janta knives either. Everyone has gotten better weapons I know we got Ackly stun Batons but they are screwed up. Why can't we get nice swords with dots like the pikes, rifles pistols etc?




What does this have to do with dueling or PvP? Isn't this really just: A Master Fencers thoughts about weapons?
Wolf_Scout
Thu May 27, 2004 9:38 am
#5

No because DOTs are the difference between winning and losing period. We have no weapons that inflict serious dots, I.E. Pikeman mind fire lances, poison lances etc



"Weapons are made to kill, but it is the human mind that decides the amount of pain they will inflict"

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omgtheynerfedthenitch
Thu May 27, 2004 11:03 am
#6

Fencer is perfect as is its not about dots when trying to win its about being able to hit your opponent. and it is very hard to hit a fencer. especially a master on aircake.



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Wolf_Scout
Thu May 27, 2004 11:54 am
#7

Aircake huh, after Canape, Synsteak and Thaliko there does not seem to be much room, how much of a difference does aircake make?



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Gaidin_OL
Thu May 27, 2004 1:52 pm
#8

Enough of a difference to use some, if its good. I think Mesk has some good sh!t.




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Rebarty
Thu May 27, 2004 2:29 pm
#9

Try being a Commando with:


a Bic lighter


a Lag pistol


a Snot weapon


Rockets that hit 1 out of 100


Grenades they damage u not the enemy







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Tataomm
Thu May 27, 2004 10:26 pm
#10

I guess that I still don't understand the premise of this post. I have about 7 unique DoT 1Handed weapons that all target the mind with either poison, disease or fire. By the time I get done appling the 4 I use in combat my opponents mind is half gone, then I go to work on them with the stun stick. We have a lot of DoT weapons available for us to use. Probably the only class with more would be pikeman.
NorwegianHunter
Fri May 28, 2004 1:07 am
#11

You can get fencer weapons (not knifes) with decent dots, both fire and poison. I have a sword with mind poison and I'm bidding on a gaffi stick with mind fire.



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Eedir
Fri May 28, 2004 1:27 pm
#12

fencer not good in PvP? come on. i am unbeat in duels. and i am a freaking wookiee! geez, i cant be hit and i deal 250 dmg agaist stun armor(39%). if they got a PSG it just takes some more time. my acklay batton tear any composite appart
Unwanted
Fri May 28, 2004 1:47 pm
#13

We do rule in PvP. Quite simply we play a war of attrition in a straight duel, we deal damage out over very little time, while we nick away at our opponent, hopefully landing a blind, dizzy, and lunge1 or 2 if you mastered brawler. Then he's gone. Because he never hit you.



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